Not to cause a stir but I photographed this track in an area here in Oklahoma in the middle of December (2001).
What are some of your opinions?



The size was somewhere in the 15-16 inches by 6-7 wide.The depth in the mud (approx. 3inches)

I'm sorry about the quality but it was taken at night and the only enhancement done was to lighten the picture so I could post it.
My first question was ...
Why would someone be in this remote area surrounded by woods and Lake barefoot in the middle of winter.The mud is results of rain and snow melt.Temperature was in the 40's by day and below freezing at night.
We had a FBI friend look at this and he had no conclusions other than it was big.

So what ya think?
Robert

I think it looks like a little box with a red X in it with the statement "user posted image" to the right of it.

Sorry dude, but it isn't loading for me. I'd really like to see it though.

S oits a noseeum track LOL I will try again sorry

LMAO!

hmmm well it showed up here?

Can we still upload a pic on BFF?

Tell me if it s working LOL

Robert

I still can't see it.

OMG! Mama was right! I'm going blind!!!

here's a file attachment. :rolleyes:

Red X here dude , sorry

Very interested in seeing though, i've been to the Ouchitas, heard the critters, know they are there. Fantastic area !!! Cant wait to get back down into those mountains again

Best spring water i EVER had was in those mountains

[edit showed up as the attachment, musta crossed when i was typeing [/edit]

Certainly looks Squatchy to me ... shows alot of the "classic" sasquatch traits.

Can you tell us what area (specifically) this was taken at ?

Looks squatchy to me too.

If I did I'd have to snuff ya!

No this is from an area that MrBB and I (a close monkeychasing buddy)
have been monitoring for about 4 years.
It is in the Lake Texoma area of SE Oklahoma.

We have had visuals and also reports through the years from a wide variety of onlookers.
The area is Public and does have alot of traffic (kids partying, 4 wheelers etc)

The area is secluded in that it runs along the lines of the Washita River Arm into Lake Texoma. No residences in this area.

Anything else?

Robert

Is that strictly mud or is it also algae? Looks mighty slimey. Also, were there any other tracks or was that the only one found?

It's Ouachitas with two A's Rob. :rolleyes:

But Arky, Rob was running around barefoot the whole time he was there. I think he really meant "ouchietoes".

To answer your question FishBone

Yes this was along the edge of the lake on the shore.

There were alot of tracks all in one spot along the shore.
Some went into the water ..the others lead to the edge of the woods then vanished.

here is another photo untouched

Dang! Those aren't loading for me either.

try again lol

There it is! One thing I'm noticing is that the toes do look like they're on more of a diagonal line instead of horizontal but then again I know there's got to be a bit of parallax in the photo due to the camera angle.

But the foot outline itself sure does appear squatchy.

Good picture BenThere2. Did you get any casts made of them?

No shirl no casts....

I miss quoted the date it was 2000 not 2001 and we were just getting cracked with equipment (digital cameras, recorders etc.) We did have casting material but no knowledge of casting in mud.

I hope everyone knows I put this up as just a conversation piece and not a test or hoax.

We have found numerous tracks in this area and have witnessed vocals associated with nothing known to us except Squatch.

I had a fleeting glimpse of something that squatted, stood up and ran from us and it was grey or white.

A couple weeks later MrBb's son saw what he described as a white (or grey) Bigfoot creature running into the woods in the same general area (he had no knowledge of what I had seen) Two months later I read a report on the GCBRO about this area (it named location) apparently a young man MrBB had shared our "spot" with had returned with a friend and also had a sighting as what they described as something white as big as a cow walking on two legs. Again they knew nothing about my sighting.
Up until this year (because of commentments) we religiously watched this area 3-5 nights a week.

Activity has been far and few between so don't give up on a suspected area just because nothing materializes immediately.

I think it was JimF who brought up corridors in another thread ...we believe this is a corridor or pathway of roaming as the weather, food supply and encroachment change the squatch file through this area to new or old locations. JMO

Thanks for the input all.

Robert

Well this is just one of those times that I can't think of a thing to say really. I think you have something though.

I think the corridor idea is a good one. I've heard that theorized about an area in Arkansas that runs north to south as well.

Have you noticed a certain time of year that you feel they are around more?

If you need any help with keeping an eye out on this area..well
you know me...have Jeep will travel.

Lisa

OkokokokOK
So, i missed an "a" .. finger must notta pressed hard enuf on the stupid key :rolleyes: OuAchitA !! There

*mumbles : spellcheck nazi ... geesh*

I guess the only question someone hasn't asked yet.(and bear with me cause most of what I know about tracks comes from folks on this forum for the most part)The second bulge near the heel ? is that normal for some types of BF tracks ? or is it just an abnormality due to the terrain ?

I'm no track expert so I cannot answer that.
Few have seen this picture so very little feedback has been given.
Perhaps someone else can answer that one.

Robert

As far as i know ..... its a "classic" sasquatch trait, though not seen in alot of foot impressions. There may be more than one foot type (species) , but it certainly doenst look human to me.

Due to the recent hoax, i am not going to declare it a sasquatch track i'm simply going to state, based on the testimony given, and the single photo (which i would enjoy seeing more pics of the same or different tracks from the same incident) :
It looks sasquatchian to me.

Just opinions man ..no commentments.

I don't need anyone to go out on a limb I just thought some would enjoy.


a man once stated

" Opinions are like assholes......everybody has one......
some stink worse than others though."

Please I don't want to smell your ...um .....opinion.

Robert

I'll have to remember that one."I don't want to smell your opinion."

..... bWWWAAAAA-HAHAHAHHAHAAHAAAA

(gotta remember that one)

LMAO so hard I almost lost bladder control.

Looks like it had a pretty high arch also. Do you have more phots of the other tracks?

It's a great track photo, I'll say that much.

Reply to Skunkhunter



I don't know that the arch is there or the lightening of the photo (some of the glare is flash)
I did find up the shore a group of tracks in and out of the water.
But they truley (some)resembled human tracks. Smaller and defined.????

welllllll.......looked at the second prints......size?...........seems to me that the one print that i can see halfway clearly looks way more human-like than sasquatch-like.........not that I can see everything in the photo that i would like to see ....but.......the heel seems way too narrow to be sasquatch.................


the first photo however.........seems to be adifferent story...........looks the other way......large and wide.....more sasquatchy than human.......

always wish we had better photos to look at.............


(played C.M.A. pretty well that time, eh?

I appologise I did not mean to post that twice.
Computer fowled.

I zapped the dup - Bip

Your right about the second pic.....but within this group of tracks is another like the first. This is when we decided not to publish the print because we weren't positive.
Glad you all have a keen eye and an open mind.

Robert

The second photo does look more human...but

what the heck were humans doing running around barefoot in muddy wet areas in December?

A bet with a buddy? Just because they like feeling the green mud squish between their toes? They were being pursued by a bigfoot after it stole their shoes? They were overcome with a sudden urge to have frostbitten feet?

Sorry...got carried away.

HEy Robert......I finnaly got my 4 wheeler out of the shop. When are we goin to look the lake area over? I got a dirt bike u can use. BB will have to walk......lolol
Jim Mahan (pegleg)

Ok, that last one looks pretty human, but I think you'd better check the NBA schedule. I think Shaq was busy playing the Spurs that day the first one was taken

Sorry guys but this looks a like two human tracks which are overlaid (matching your other finds of smaller, more human tracks). With lights you should have been able to easily see this at the site... but if all you had was say moonlight and a camera flash...

Better luck next time.

By the way... this picture of a track in mud slime on the shore of some body of water is pretty fresh. Looks like someone was just ahead of you.

Sorry Dirty.....no vehicles in or out that night..... 4 wheel drive to get in to the area.
And it was a single track impression not an overlay.

But Opinions are what I was after.

Thanks

Robert

How cold was it? Had the ground been frozen?

Do you trust everyone that was with you?

How long did it take to travel off road to the site? And how many miles as the crow flies to civilization, including frequented road systems? Was there another way in?

Could someone have been camping up there that you didn't see?

Was there any other activity observed that might indicate Bigfoot?

Was there any other evidence found that might indicate Bigfoot?

Was this the only track of it's size found? Was it in line with a trackway of human tracks?

LOL

This is an area approximately 2 mi off road.
The closest residence is probably 2 miles also.
The picture was taken in mid Dec. and the temps were in fact at or below freezing (at night).
There were other tracks along creek banks and into the wooded area not only on this trip but others through the 3 year period prior to this pic we investigated in this area.
My partner is my partner I have hunted and fished with this guy for over 15 years and I trust him with my life.
We had a visual sighting the same year and several eye witness statements from others who have seen something (creature) in this area.
Other witnesses have heard vocalizations in this area that we attribute to this creature. It's not like we walked up and snapped the shot dude.
We spent many many hours both daytime and night in this area.

The area is along the outer banks of a large lake and inline with the river arm that feeds it..... all wooded area and sparsely populated.
No I don't think someone was pranking us and there would certainly be no reason someone would be out there "BAREFOOT" in this kind of weather.
Hope this satisfies your curiosity.

Robert

OK... but I haven't been called dude in about 20 years. LOL

2 miles is really nothing. The track doesn't appear to be frozen, but those types of temperatures may have helped preserve it for your visit and finding after they were made.

"There were other tracks along creek banks and into the wooded area not only on this trip but others through the 3 year period prior to this pic we investigated in this area."

Yes, but were they human or Bigfoot?

"My partner is my partner I have hunted and fished with this guy for over 15 years and I trust him with my life."

Some people do and some people don't trust like that... me, I would not trust anyone except my brothers with my life. And believe me they have pulled some real doozy gags on me... I learned to keep a sense of humor.

"We had a visual sighting the same year and several eye witness statements from others who have seen something (creature) in this area."

Sounds as if it isn't that remote that people do not go there. That isn't a bad thing, just makes the point more feasible that a human was up there at some time close to when you found the tracks. I don't know about your visual sighting... you would have to elaborate on it a bit so I could tie it in with this thread of thought.

"Other witnesses have heard vocalizations in this area that we attribute to this creature."

Which calls did they identify as sounding like the ones they heard? Did anybody record them? Did you find out what times during the day they were heard? What seasons? Did you talk with these witnesses yourself? Did they seem knowledgable about natural sounds in the woods?

"It's not like we walked up and snapped the shot dude."

The pictures look as if they were made at night. Did you go back up and look at them (photograph as well) during the daytime? I would have to guess you did because of your interest and I am sure you know more can be seen in daylight. Could we see those pictures as well?

"The area is along the outer banks of a large lake and inline with the river arm that feeds it..... all wooded area and sparsely populated."

Sounds like a good canidate habitat for such an animal, but I would actually have to see I think. If you had to estimate... how many people per acre or mile actually live there?

"No I don't think someone was pranking us and there would certainly be no reason someone would be out there "BAREFOOT" in this kind of weather."

It is not a prank to walk barefoot in the winter. I have even walked in a foot of show barefoot for at least a half a mile. It was a test. Humans do strange things sometimes.

"Hope this satisfies your curiosity. "

Didn't you ask for comments? I am not trying to be flipant about it but I truely think this particular picture shows two human tracks laid over one another. I applaud you diligent work on trekking out to such areas to check for tracks, other evidence or just to see the animal (again). I don't think it was a prank either, unless your partner did it because he knew what you were looking for... which the chance of you have ruled out... that is why I would have to say it was serendipity that the second track stepped in the other that way. I am not saying that it is a mistaken ID on the track(s) because you asked for comments and didn't just come out and say "This is a Bigfoot track".

Robert

DirtyDamnApe

its kinda hard to tell what it is it looks like a good track alot of detail but I would like to have seen a tape measure next to it next time you go out take a small tape measure with you. Sean

did you measure it? how long was it? how wide? did any of the other casts seen to dictate? more inthe water (fishing aroudn for moluscs or fish)?

any one who pulls pranks like these on us, are idots. the first prankster i find in a furry suit, ill make sure they never prank again, at least not bigfoot. are you human? no im a meat popcicle. i pull out my weapons of choice and chase the sob til he/drops and begs for their life. thn ill kik them in the teeth. i htinkits a good track, lord knows i found worse, but one was right after my tema had a sighting. but a pic of the actual trail of prints would have been cool to look at.

Deep cleansing breath... repeat I will not kill,Iwill not kill.

Ravenight. I feel the same about hoaxers.
But never say that out loud. When the body is found don't be a suspect

Cool pic! I cleaned it up some to bring out more detail.

Great pic!

And thanks, eth!