Siting near Lawton
I thought perhaps the follow up would offer more details to convince me, but alas, I am dissapointed.
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Is it me, or does anyone see something in this report that indicates that the witnesses saw a bigfoot in a tree?
Siting near Lawton
I thought perhaps the follow up would offer more details to convince me, but alas, I am dissapointed.
Siting near Lawton
I thought perhaps the follow up would offer more details to convince me, but alas, I am dissapointed.
hi okbffan good afternoon yes i agree its a very interesting oklahoma sasquatch sighting. are you planning on going to the area with a camcorder or camera to take photos of possible sasquatch evidence this week. please keep me and everyone here posted ok. thanks bill green
Do you really think they saw a sasquatch, Bill? They mention very little detail, no follow up as to tracks, no mention of any other supporting evidence. I am very dissapointed in the BFRO investigation, or lack thereof.
I am pretty far from Lawton and have never really been over there. Actually its not what I would consider a hot spot in Oklahoma. Anyone else think so?
Bill, I am planning a trip down south to Sulphur over the holiday weekend. I will keep my eyes and ears open, and I always take a TON of photos down there when we visit. I just love to walk through the woods and the kids love to swim in the rivers.
I am pretty far from Lawton and have never really been over there. Actually its not what I would consider a hot spot in Oklahoma. Anyone else think so?
Bill, I am planning a trip down south to Sulphur over the holiday weekend. I will keep my eyes and ears open, and I always take a TON of photos down there when we visit. I just love to walk through the woods and the kids love to swim in the rivers.
Hi, OKBFFan. My kids love the cold waters there at Sulphur also. I bet your kids would enjoy a drive up to the top of Mt. Scott and through the herds of bison and elk in the Wichita Mtns. near Lawton. Being at the top of Mt. Scott is a cool one time kind of thing to do. If you go, you must make your way over to Meers, Okla. for a Meers Burger. The old Ft. Sill is interesting if you like history (Geronimo's Jail cell).
QUOTE(xjay @ Aug 28 2005, 12:59 PM)
Hi, OKBFFan. My kids love the cold waters there at Sulphur also. I bet your kids would enjoy a drive up to the top of Mt. Scott and through the herds of bison and elk in the Wichita Mtns. near Lawton. Being at the top of Mt. Scott is a cool one time kind of thing to do. If you go, you must make your way over to Meers, Okla. for a Meers Burger. The old Ft. Sill is interesting if you like history (Geronimo's Jail cell).
Wow history is too cool aorund here. Hubby's family is military, etc. And yes, I would love to check out the area. Thanks for the tip!
The following is an account of a white creature and is approximently 50 miles south of Lawton.
Would love to have seen more follow up on the supposed video shot.
Would love to have seen more follow up on the supposed video shot.
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DATE: August 10, 2002
SEASON: Summer
STATE: Texas
COUNTY: Wichita
NEAREST TOWN: Wichita Falls, TX
OBSERVED: At first it was noises. Then me and about 5 of my friends went to check it out and then we saw a 10 foot white shaggy thing just standing there. So we went across Reilly road to my friend's house from the woods where we spotted it. We were outside just talking about it and then we heard a blood curling scream, it was a man's voice. So my oldest friend which was 18 at the time got some bowie knives and went back in the woods as we stayed outside in the driveway. It was about a minute then we heard him yell. We ran to the road and he comes running up to the fence and gets to the top and then get thrown about 20 across the bar ditch into the road by that 10 foot thing that we saw earlier. The next morning we went out into the woods where we saw him get thrown and we saw foot prints about a foot and 8 inches imprinted about an inch into the ground. Then about 2 weeks later me and my friend were out exploring with the camera and we got the thing on camera.
DESCRIPTION: It was about 10 to 12 feet tall white shaggy hair and big red glowing eyes.
PHYSICAL EVIDENCE: Yes, foot prints a foot and 8 inches long and a inch deep in the ground.
OTHER WITNESSES: multiple
SOUNDS HEARD: None at the time of the sighting but a blood curling scream many other times and even once heard by a officer patrolling the area.
TIME AND CONDITIONS: Midnight.
ENVIRONMENT: Flat plains surrounded by mesquite trees, a stock pond in the area.
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INVESTIGATOR'S COMMENTS: I talked to the witness on 10/10/2002. This sighting took place in Wichita Falls, TX, in Wichita County. The date was close to 8/10/2002. School started before the witness on 8/17/2002. The moon was full, temperatures were low to middle 70’s. The time was approximately midnight.
The witness and some friends heard growling and hissing noises in the woods. They then heard a man-like loud scream. The oldest friend ran into the woods with a knife. It wasn’t long that this same friend came back running out of the woods screaming, followed by a large creature. The creature was approximately 10 feet in height. It was a white color, and appeared shaggy. The eyes were a glowing red. He made it to the top of a fence. The boy climbing the fence was 6’ 5" and 180 lbs. The creature grabbed the boy and threw him over the fence.
Something not mentioned in the sighting report was the Wichita police were called. An officer came out and listened to the boys. The officer told them he has heard strange screams in these woods. I talked to the Community Relations Sergeant on duty. A police report was not made. This is understandable.
I talked to the witness’s mother. She was very nice. I have asked to talk to the other witnesses involved. Especially the young man that tossed across a fence. There was another young teen that was visiting the witness from Illinois. He had a video camera with him. Two weeks after the incident on 8/10/2002, the two were walking by the woods when they saw what resembled the creature. According to the witness, the boy from Illinois has something on the camera. I have asked to talk to the young man from Illinois.
There is an old abandoned house in the same woods. There is also a stock pond there. Transients have been seen in and around the abandoned house.
The toll free number of the TBRC was given to them to use. So far no one else related to this incident has come forward with any information.
TBRC Investigator
©Copyright 1999-2002 Texas Bigfoot Research Center
SEASON: Summer
STATE: Texas
COUNTY: Wichita
NEAREST TOWN: Wichita Falls, TX
OBSERVED: At first it was noises. Then me and about 5 of my friends went to check it out and then we saw a 10 foot white shaggy thing just standing there. So we went across Reilly road to my friend's house from the woods where we spotted it. We were outside just talking about it and then we heard a blood curling scream, it was a man's voice. So my oldest friend which was 18 at the time got some bowie knives and went back in the woods as we stayed outside in the driveway. It was about a minute then we heard him yell. We ran to the road and he comes running up to the fence and gets to the top and then get thrown about 20 across the bar ditch into the road by that 10 foot thing that we saw earlier. The next morning we went out into the woods where we saw him get thrown and we saw foot prints about a foot and 8 inches imprinted about an inch into the ground. Then about 2 weeks later me and my friend were out exploring with the camera and we got the thing on camera.
DESCRIPTION: It was about 10 to 12 feet tall white shaggy hair and big red glowing eyes.
PHYSICAL EVIDENCE: Yes, foot prints a foot and 8 inches long and a inch deep in the ground.
OTHER WITNESSES: multiple
SOUNDS HEARD: None at the time of the sighting but a blood curling scream many other times and even once heard by a officer patrolling the area.
TIME AND CONDITIONS: Midnight.
ENVIRONMENT: Flat plains surrounded by mesquite trees, a stock pond in the area.
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INVESTIGATOR'S COMMENTS: I talked to the witness on 10/10/2002. This sighting took place in Wichita Falls, TX, in Wichita County. The date was close to 8/10/2002. School started before the witness on 8/17/2002. The moon was full, temperatures were low to middle 70’s. The time was approximately midnight.
The witness and some friends heard growling and hissing noises in the woods. They then heard a man-like loud scream. The oldest friend ran into the woods with a knife. It wasn’t long that this same friend came back running out of the woods screaming, followed by a large creature. The creature was approximately 10 feet in height. It was a white color, and appeared shaggy. The eyes were a glowing red. He made it to the top of a fence. The boy climbing the fence was 6’ 5" and 180 lbs. The creature grabbed the boy and threw him over the fence.
Something not mentioned in the sighting report was the Wichita police were called. An officer came out and listened to the boys. The officer told them he has heard strange screams in these woods. I talked to the Community Relations Sergeant on duty. A police report was not made. This is understandable.
I talked to the witness’s mother. She was very nice. I have asked to talk to the other witnesses involved. Especially the young man that tossed across a fence. There was another young teen that was visiting the witness from Illinois. He had a video camera with him. Two weeks after the incident on 8/10/2002, the two were walking by the woods when they saw what resembled the creature. According to the witness, the boy from Illinois has something on the camera. I have asked to talk to the young man from Illinois.
There is an old abandoned house in the same woods. There is also a stock pond there. Transients have been seen in and around the abandoned house.
The toll free number of the TBRC was given to them to use. So far no one else related to this incident has come forward with any information.
TBRC Investigator
©Copyright 1999-2002 Texas Bigfoot Research Center
Hm that is quite a story. Was there any media coverage of this event?
I'll have to do some digging, but there's been a history of some sightings in southern Indiana of a white sasquatch. I've seen and read them... I just don't recall right off the top of my head where. One may be BFRO. I'll try and see if I can find it.
One thing that bothers me. The detailed description of how to get to the Witnesses house for anyone to read. The only thing missing is the numbered address. 
QUOTE(jimf @ Aug 28 2005, 03:29 PM)
One thing that bothers me. The detailed description of how to get to the Witnesses house for anyone to read. The only thing missing is the numbered address.
..yet very little detail on what was seen, heard, smelled, otherwise observed, yada yada... and no questions from the investigator on validating the sighting. Kinda bothers me...
Given what the original report states, I could not draw a single conclusion as to what they encountered.
QUOTE(OKBFFan @ Aug 28 2005, 06:20 PM)
Do you really think they saw a sasquatch, Bill? They mention very little detail, no follow up as to tracks, no mention of any other supporting evidence. I am very dissapointed in the BFRO investigation, or lack thereof.
I am pretty far from Lawton and have never really been over there. Actually its not what I would consider a hot spot in Oklahoma. Anyone else think so?
Bill, I am planning a trip down south to Sulphur over the holiday weekend. I will keep my eyes and ears open, and I always take a TON of photos down there when we visit. I just love to walk through the woods and the kids love to swim in the rivers.
I am pretty far from Lawton and have never really been over there. Actually its not what I would consider a hot spot in Oklahoma. Anyone else think so?
Bill, I am planning a trip down south to Sulphur over the holiday weekend. I will keep my eyes and ears open, and I always take a TON of photos down there when we visit. I just love to walk through the woods and the kids love to swim in the rivers.
hi okbffan good evening thanks for the reply. you still should try to go to the sighting location to look for possible evidence or try to contact the people who encountered the white sasquatch. you can also try to contact the bfro investigater who is researching the sighting you might get more info from him. please keep me informed ok. wow thats great your going on a expedition soon please keep me posted also i wonder if other sasquatch organizations such gcbro are getting reports from oklahoma. thanks bill green :bf: :bf:
QUOTE(OKBFFan @ Aug 28 2005, 02:20 PM)
Actually its not what I would consider a hot spot in Oklahoma. Anyone else think so?
Lawton a hot spot .......
If I were to put my money on Lawton or Sulphur, it would be Sulphur 100%. I grew up in central OK and when I see reports down in the Lawton area I kind of wonder if the entire BF thing is all make believe. Sulphur however is a very likely habitat.
Just my opinions. Maybe I will have my foot in my mouth someday.
Scott
QUOTE(QSECOFR @ Aug 28 2005, 05:42 PM)
QUOTE(OKBFFan @ Aug 28 2005, 02:20 PM)
Actually its not what I would consider a hot spot in Oklahoma. Anyone else think so?
Lawton a hot spot .......
If I were to put my money on Lawton or Sulphur, it would be Sulphur 100%. I grew up in central OK and when I see reports down in the Lawton area I kind of wonder if the entire BF thing is all make believe. Sulphur however is a very likely habitat.
Just my opinions. Maybe I will have my foot in my mouth someday.
Scott
^5 Thank you, I agree. Sulphur IS a likely habitat, but its always so full of people when i visit.. I dont see how anyone could have any peace! Then again, to me, 2 people within a mile is too many..
I was born in Lawton, have relatives still there. My great grandfather at one time had several hundred acres in the foothills of the Wichita mountains, it was there in Cache. But sometime in the 60's or 50's I think, the army took it when they were expanding Ft. Sill. Somewhere my father has a picture of a newspaper with my Great grandfather sitting on his front porch with a shotgun saying that he was going to shoot at the army when they came, but I hear he didn't resist. I never heard him say anything about BF's or anything being at that ranch when I was a child, of course by then he was already in his 90's and died at 98.
I know that sometime in the 70's they had a few sightings in Lawton (read it somewhere), but they were kind of wierd so not sure if it was a BF or just a crazy person, because some of the people or one of them said it had pants on. Heard a guy found some prints on Elk Mountain one time and heard screams, but that's about it. Not a hotspot at all.
It was around that time in around 77 or 78 my brother and I were children and my grandmother had a mobile home out in the country out there. They had a camper, small one, that was on the other side of the property. Me and my brother decided that we were going to spend the night in the camper just for fun that night so we could play by ourselves. I think it was about 10 or 11 o'clock at night while we were coloring in our coloring books something roared at us from outside of the camper. We were on one end of the camper and whatever it was sounded like it was on that end just on the other side of the wall from us. The sound seemed like at the time it came from that side and above the camper but not on top of the camper. It was like a combination roar and I don't know what. At the time we had never heard of BF, we just thought that there was a monster outside. The only thing that I could compare it to back then was what a T-Rex would sound like when it roared on movies or tv shows back then, but it wasn't a long drawn out roar, more like a short inquisitive roar. I say inquisitive because at the end it kind of went up like when you ask a question.
We didn't know what to do, we froze and didn't move for about 20 minutes. We were afraid to move inside of the camper because we didn't want to give away where we were inside. We felt like whatever it was was big enough or strong enough to get inside the camper and get us if it wanted to. We didn't feel safe inside. We finally started whispering after about 45 minutes of waiting, then we decided we had to try to make it to the mobile home. We tiptoed outside, but I was afraid to look to my side or in my peripheral vision, I was too afraid that I would see something. We walked slowy to the mobile home, we were too scared to run. I felt like whatever it was would come out of the darkness at any time and kill us but nothing ever happened. When we got to the mobile home our grandparents and older brother said that they had not heard anything outside.
I don't rule out that they probably had played a joke on us. But the roar sounded too real, and I don't know how they could have made a sound like that, as well as make it come from up above the camper or why they would do it that way. Recently I asked my brother if they had played a joke on us that night and he didn't even remember the night in particular so who knows.
I know that sometime in the 70's they had a few sightings in Lawton (read it somewhere), but they were kind of wierd so not sure if it was a BF or just a crazy person, because some of the people or one of them said it had pants on. Heard a guy found some prints on Elk Mountain one time and heard screams, but that's about it. Not a hotspot at all.
It was around that time in around 77 or 78 my brother and I were children and my grandmother had a mobile home out in the country out there. They had a camper, small one, that was on the other side of the property. Me and my brother decided that we were going to spend the night in the camper just for fun that night so we could play by ourselves. I think it was about 10 or 11 o'clock at night while we were coloring in our coloring books something roared at us from outside of the camper. We were on one end of the camper and whatever it was sounded like it was on that end just on the other side of the wall from us. The sound seemed like at the time it came from that side and above the camper but not on top of the camper. It was like a combination roar and I don't know what. At the time we had never heard of BF, we just thought that there was a monster outside. The only thing that I could compare it to back then was what a T-Rex would sound like when it roared on movies or tv shows back then, but it wasn't a long drawn out roar, more like a short inquisitive roar. I say inquisitive because at the end it kind of went up like when you ask a question.
We didn't know what to do, we froze and didn't move for about 20 minutes. We were afraid to move inside of the camper because we didn't want to give away where we were inside. We felt like whatever it was was big enough or strong enough to get inside the camper and get us if it wanted to. We didn't feel safe inside. We finally started whispering after about 45 minutes of waiting, then we decided we had to try to make it to the mobile home. We tiptoed outside, but I was afraid to look to my side or in my peripheral vision, I was too afraid that I would see something. We walked slowy to the mobile home, we were too scared to run. I felt like whatever it was would come out of the darkness at any time and kill us but nothing ever happened. When we got to the mobile home our grandparents and older brother said that they had not heard anything outside.
I don't rule out that they probably had played a joke on us. But the roar sounded too real, and I don't know how they could have made a sound like that, as well as make it come from up above the camper or why they would do it that way. Recently I asked my brother if they had played a joke on us that night and he didn't even remember the night in particular so who knows.
Oh I forgot to say that Meers has the best hamburgers in the entire known galaxy and or universe.
The owner makes them out of Longhorn meat, his own private stock of Longhorn. If you get the original Meersburger they are made to be huge as a sort of novelty. They are cut into 4ths and each 4th is about the size of a regular cheesburger.
They used to make awesome homemade icecream also, think they still do. The guy that owns it also monitors some kind of seismograph - did I spell that right? - for whatever government agency monitors earthquakes, because where the shack is in the mountains there lies on some kind of fault.
The owner makes them out of Longhorn meat, his own private stock of Longhorn. If you get the original Meersburger they are made to be huge as a sort of novelty. They are cut into 4ths and each 4th is about the size of a regular cheesburger.
They used to make awesome homemade icecream also, think they still do. The guy that owns it also monitors some kind of seismograph - did I spell that right? - for whatever government agency monitors earthquakes, because where the shack is in the mountains there lies on some kind of fault.
QUOTE(nightscream @ Aug 28 2005, 05:55 PM)
But the roar sounded too real, and I don't know how they could have made a sound like that, as well as make it come from up above the camper or why they would do it that way.
Was there a tree nearby? Could it have been a mountain lion?
I would like to add that I have never thought of Lawton or the Wichita Mountains as being a place that would have BF. Sulphur has a lot of trees and so forth, more water, and a lot of sightings, so for anyone who is familiar with the two areas, I don't think that anyone would compare them as similar.
The area in Lawton where the mountains is may seem like a better place initially, because it is rugged and mountainous and sulphur is not, just trees. There is forest up in the mountains and most of it is off limits to the public because of the reserve and most of it is used for Fort Sill. But it is not a lot of forest just some woods on the mountains, basically. Basically just a bunch of boulders. Great for rock climbing though. But the mountains are by themselves and don't really connect with any other forested areas. They are surrounded by plains. There really is no history of BF there at all that I know of.
The area in Lawton where the mountains is may seem like a better place initially, because it is rugged and mountainous and sulphur is not, just trees. There is forest up in the mountains and most of it is off limits to the public because of the reserve and most of it is used for Fort Sill. But it is not a lot of forest just some woods on the mountains, basically. Basically just a bunch of boulders. Great for rock climbing though. But the mountains are by themselves and don't really connect with any other forested areas. They are surrounded by plains. There really is no history of BF there at all that I know of.
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Was there a tree nearby? Could it have been a mountain lion?
I think that if it wasn't a joke somehow, and was a real animal, it probably was a mountain lion. There are a lot of mountain lions around there.
I know it wasn't a BF, but like to entertain the thought just for my own amusement. But I'm not trying to say that it was. Just one of those things that my brother and I talk about because it scared us. Because there aren't any up there, and there are trees there, but its not enough, not the kind of cover or trees that you would associate with being a good habitat for BF.
I read that report on BFRO last night about the white thing in the tree, and initially rolled my eyes. I figured it was some people on meth or something. They have a big problem with that up there in that area of OK. But I pretty much didn't give it any creedence.
I don't think that a BF would want to live in those mountains. About every 10 minutes it seems like you hear an explosion or a rocket going off from the army. The last time I was in Cache was for a funeral at the cemetary there. As the preacher was saying a prayer I saw behind him in the distance two missiles or rockets shoot off into the air. Then about 5 seconds later the immense sound of them shooting off reached where we were. That kind of thing.
hi nightscream you should try to check out the sighting location anyway. bring your camera to take photos of the area where the eyewittness saw the white sasquatch creature. also try to talk to the local people near where the sighting took place. also yes it would be great if you can check the swamps or creeks near that the sighting location to take photos of possible sasquatch evidence. try to contact the bfro investigater who is doing the investigation into this new oklahoma sasquatch sighting. okbffan yes it could be a sasquatch that the eyewittness said he saw becouse he did sound honest. also try to contact that oklahoma radio station that was mentioned in the show bigfootville see if they gotten any possible sasquatch sightings or footprints finds called in to them. just a idea & my opinion. thanks bill green. or try to contact other oklahoma sasquatch research centers or ufo oklahoma centers to see if they gotten any possible sasquatch sightings reported to them 
for some reaons i thought snowy owl when i read that.
for the record, the two i saw years and years ago were dirty white, kind of a grey white i guess one could say.
for the record, the two i saw years and years ago were dirty white, kind of a grey white i guess one could say.
Bill,
Next time I go up there I might ask some people, who knows. There are alot of native americans there, might ask some of them if there is history there that I didn't know of.
But like the other dude said, Sulphur is the place that is associated with BF, if you don't have the time to goto the Kiamichi's. Of course the Kiamichi's are THE place in OK, but its a farther drive from where I am. Actually Sulphur is much closer to me now than Lawton, but I go to Lawton from time to time to see my grandmother, uncle and cousins up there.
But the next time I had planned to go up there was to goto Sulphur and the Arbuckles.
Next time I go up there I might ask some people, who knows. There are alot of native americans there, might ask some of them if there is history there that I didn't know of.
But like the other dude said, Sulphur is the place that is associated with BF, if you don't have the time to goto the Kiamichi's. Of course the Kiamichi's are THE place in OK, but its a farther drive from where I am. Actually Sulphur is much closer to me now than Lawton, but I go to Lawton from time to time to see my grandmother, uncle and cousins up there.
But the next time I had planned to go up there was to goto Sulphur and the Arbuckles.
I tend to think that the BF in and around Sulphur are somewhat used to seeing people and for that reason your chances of catching a glimpse of one might be increased. I know there are both red/brown and gray ones in the Arbuckles.
hi nightscream thanks for the reply. please keep me posted on your oklahoma bigfoot field trips. nightscream & xjay wow those areas in oklahoma sulpher and arbuckles sound like great habitat. do you all photos of these oklahoma sasquatch hotspots. thanks bill green hi moderaters you should make a wonderful thread all about the oklahoma sasquatch threads that ever been put in this great forum.
hi moderaters you should make a wonderful thread all about the oklahoma sasquatch threads that ever been put in this great forum.
nightscream,
The thing is with cogars is that they can't roar...
They can only purrr same goes for cheetas.
TKD
The thing is with cogars is that they can't roar...
They can only purrr same goes for cheetas.
TKD
hi nightscream xjay etc maybe there is a couple differant species of sasquatch creatures in the forests of oklahoma judgeing by the way differant color hair they have all over their bodies. my opinion. is the tbrc planning on going to oklahoma soon to look for sasquatch evidence if yes have a wonderful safe time . has any oklahoma newspapers mentioned anything about sasquatch this weekend. or has any oklahoma radio stations mentioned sasquatch as well. thanks bill green
QUOTE(billgreen2005bigfoot @ Aug 28 2005, 04:29 PM)
you can also try to contact the bfro investigater who is researching the sighting you might get more info from him.
I wrote to Mr Higgins once upon a time to request information about a gentleman that was supposedly planting soda cans in the Sulphur area. I read an article in a local paper about fingerprint evidence and sasquatch's addiction to sweet soda. He was attempting to collect fingerprint evidence of sasquatch in the area!
Mr. Higgins told me in an email reply that the individual that was conducting this "research" was a known charlatan, and there was no validity to the fingeprint gathering project. He was quite polite, and cooperative.
I quote
"The Oklahoma fingerprints, however, ARE a hoax. They
were conclusively discredited by fingerprint expert
Jimmy Chilcutt. The author of that newspaper article
should be ashamed of himself for not properly
researching his subject and contributing to the celebrity
of a known charlatan. "
The original media article is here
Researcher: Bigfoot alive, well in southern Oklahoma
By Lance West July 27, 2004
Are they the rantings of Bigfoot-crazed Oklahomans? Or does a mysterious beast really roam the mountains of southern Oklahoma?
A Sulphur man has been working for years to prove the existence of Bigfoot. And now, a piece of rare evidence has surfaced to substantiate his claims.
When the sun descends over the Chickasaw National Park, and the tourists retire to their campsites, work begins for this Sulfur researcher.
"A lot of big foot in here," said Charles Hallmark, who spends endless hours in the wilderness trying to confirm the existence of a mysterious beast.
"Some little Bigfoot prints right here where I'm standing," he said. "Right here, all around me."
From foot prints to photographs, this tracker and his friends have collected plenty of evidence over the years. Hallmark claims he's had several close encounters.
"No muzzle, no tail. Just boing, boing, boing," Hallmark said. "My first impression was to get out there and chase him through the woods to get a better view of him and then I thought, that's a juvenile. That means mamma is not far away and I'd hate to get in an arm wrestling match with a female monkey that weighs 600 pounds because I don't think I would win."
But Hallmark said his most compelling evidence is a series of unusually large fingerprints.
"My fingerprint, it might be half the size of that," he said. "This cup is just covered with finger prints."
Here's how he collects them. Hallmark puts cookies, candy bars, or hamburgers in a large cup. Then, he covers it with some microwave popcorn and hides it in a trash can with a large rock on top. That keeps the smaller animals out.
And then he waits.
"They'll handle that greasy popcorn bag, then handle the cup," he said. "It's as simple as 'A B C.'
"A fingerprint is something [that] can't be faked," he said.
On our expedition, yhe only creatures we encountered were loud dogs. "They start barking about sun down," he said. "It's Bigfoot they're smelling.
"Menacing spiders, there's all kinds of evidence out here," Hallmark said. "And hungry raccoons."
But Hallmark said he will one day gather "the proof", convincing everyone there is a Bigfoot living in our backyard.
"Science doesn't want to admit that the missing link is not missing," Hallmark said. "It's out there, running around beside us right now."
The only explanation, Hallmark said, is it's a Bigfoot.
Oklahoma Department of Wildlife Conservation officials say there have been several reported sightings over the years. But to date they have no evidence supporting the existence of a "mysterious beast."
Copyright 2004 KFOR-TV-DT.
http://www.kfor.com/global/story.asp?s=209...tType=Printable
hi okbffan wow thanks for incredible update about this oklahoma sighting. please keep me & everyone here posted ok . thanks bill green p.s. im glad you got a reply back from the bfro researcher who is looking into that oklahoma sighting.
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do you all photos of these oklahoma sasquatch hotspots.
I have photos of Chickasaw Recreation area, Wichita Mountains in Lawton, and the Kiamichis. I don't know if I have posted enough to be able to post photos or not.
I tried to post some when I first started posting here and it wouldn't work and someone said that I won't be able to post them until later.
Also, don't I have to upload the photos to another site and host them there to post them, I can't remember. I think I can put some on one of those photo album sites.
I'll see.
hi nightscream please email the moderators such as jayleed or paul they can help you put your photos of those oklahoma sasquatch activity. im realy looking forward on seeing the photos in this great thread. also please keep me & everyone here posted of any new sasquatch activity today or this week. thanks bill green
QUOTE(billgreen2005bigfoot @ Aug 29 2005, 01:12 PM)
im realy looking forward on seeing the photos in this great thread.
I dont have photos of Lawton, but a ton from Sulphur. We love to godown there and "play". There are documented sightings here. No doubt.. there is plenty of water, and pretty dense foliage.
The Chickasha Recreation Area could be considered a hot spot, but civilization is SO close by.
hi okbffan thanks for the reply wow those photos you just posted look like wonderful habitat for sasquatch creatures. do you find alot footprints in these areas. thanks bill green
I can't post any of my own pics of Lawton right now Bill, but I'll put this link up if you want to see what Lawton looks like. I'll try to post some of my pics of Sulphur and the Kiamichis.
Lawton (Wichita Mountains Wildlife Refuge)
Lawton (Wichita Mountains Wildlife Refuge)
QUOTE(billgreen2005bigfoot @ Aug 29 2005, 09:06 PM)
hi okbffan thanks for the reply wow those photos you just posted look like wonderful habitat for sasquatch creatures. do you find alot footprints in these areas. thanks bill green
I am not a trained tracker, Bill, and have no hunting experience whatsoever. I am a photographer, and constantly have the camera in my face.
I made the mistake of sticking my head into a large hole at Sulphur, thinking I saw something move beneath, and i came face to face with an ENORMOUS beaver. I about soiled myself at the point. Can't imagine what would happen if I ran across a sasquatch!
When I go down Monday, I will make a point of talking to the rangers in the visitors center. They are very cooperative and friendly.
hi okbffan good morning thanks for the great reply back to me. im looking forward on what the forestrangers have say to you about sasquatch in oklahoma forests. you tell the forest rangers to come to this forum if they have a computer and time to tell us their possible sasquatch experances. that photo looks a great area for for sasquatch. so is there any new books or documentarys comeing out about the oklahoma sasquatch. thanks bill green
Ok I spent the day down in Sulphur at the Chickasha Natonal Recreation Area. The place was packed, as I expected it to be, on a holiday weekend. By "packed" I mean we pretty much ran into people everywhere.
We did see a doe, snake, and a couple of walking sticks (as in the insect variety).
I asked one of the rangers out in the park if he had ever seen and/or heard any unusual activity, that could possible be attributed to a sasquatch. He looked at me and laughed... like I had two heads. He stuttered a bit, and said um.. no. The most unusual thing he had ever witnessed in the park was a mountain lion which came out of the brush when they were doing a controlled burn on the north end of the park.
Inside the nature center, I chatted up a female ranger at the desk. I asked her if anyone had ever reported unusual activity to her that could possibly be sasquatch related. She said she had a few folks on separate occassions tell her they saw what they THOUGHT was a bear, describing sometning large, brown and hairy. She was awestruck simply because there are NO bear in then there hills...
Interesting, no? I am including a photo I took today of a walking stick which was hanging on our sideview mirror as we drove away from the park. We of course had to stop and rescue him.
We did see a doe, snake, and a couple of walking sticks (as in the insect variety).
I asked one of the rangers out in the park if he had ever seen and/or heard any unusual activity, that could possible be attributed to a sasquatch. He looked at me and laughed... like I had two heads. He stuttered a bit, and said um.. no. The most unusual thing he had ever witnessed in the park was a mountain lion which came out of the brush when they were doing a controlled burn on the north end of the park.
Inside the nature center, I chatted up a female ranger at the desk. I asked her if anyone had ever reported unusual activity to her that could possibly be sasquatch related. She said she had a few folks on separate occassions tell her they saw what they THOUGHT was a bear, describing sometning large, brown and hairy. She was awestruck simply because there are NO bear in then there hills...
Interesting, no? I am including a photo I took today of a walking stick which was hanging on our sideview mirror as we drove away from the park. We of course had to stop and rescue him.
hi okbffan good evening here s a very interesting new oklahoma sasquatch report that i just found for you in the resent reports section the gcbro website. http://www.gcbro.com/OKleflore0005.html i hope this report realy helps you with your sasquatch research. thanks bill green
OKBFFan, cool pic! My wife would have fliiiiipped out!
hi okbffan good morning wow i see you had kinda interesting talk with the parkrangers about the oklahoma sasquatch creatures. please keep me updated. i can understand that they are little skeptical but its always great to have a openmind. at least one the rangers told you of a sasquatch experance that was reported to them. thanks bill
More photos...
anyone know what kind of berries these are? They were plentiful in the area
anyone know what kind of berries these are? They were plentiful in the area
A lovely little funnel web spider, that wasnt exactly little.. he was HUGE
This doe was about 20 feet from me when I took this picture. She made eye contact with me a few times, and didnt flee. It wasnt until I took a step in her direction that she took off.
Great pics!!!! 
QUOTE(Mrs_Erectus @ Sep 6 2005, 07:30 PM)
Great pics!!!!
Ditto! Creepy spider!
QUOTE(OKBFFan @ Sep 6 2005, 01:06 PM)
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anyone know what kind of berries these are? They were plentiful in the area
anyone know what kind of berries these are? They were plentiful in the area
I wondered what those were too. My husband thinks maybe they are some kind of Sumac. I also think they resemble elderberries or like the berries on pokeweed. Sorry I don't have a more deffinite answer!
They look like chokeberries to me, based on a Search on Google.
QUOTE(Sasquatch Watcher @ Sep 11 2005, 11:22 AM)
They look like chokeberries to me, based on a Search on Google.
Could be. I have no clue. Are they edible? And if so, would a squatch eat them?
Chokeberries are very tart but they are edible. I would think that a BF would enjoy them, too.
QUOTE(OKBFFan @ Sep 6 2005, 07:06 AM)
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anyone know what kind of berries these are? They were plentiful in the area
anyone know what kind of berries these are? They were plentiful in the area
Virtually identical to the elderberries in my front yard, but for the deeper color on the stems of yours. If it is, the confusion with sumac is understandable, since they both have compound leaves. If you knew them, you wouldn't mix them up, though.
Sumacs have hairy red fruit in upright clusters. Pokeberry is an herb with single leaves. If memory serves, its berries are larger than that too. Chokeberry is a
medium sized shrub with single leaves.
I looked it up and common elder seems to extend into OK. The red berried species is toxic but the commons are edible if kind of blah tasting. Same kind they use for pies and elderberry wine, though apparently they need some preparation beforehand to make them taste better.
QUOTE(Oniomancer @ Sep 14 2005, 10:04 PM)
Same kind they use for pies and elderberry wine, though apparently they need some preparation beforehand to make them taste better.
Ya know, I never understood this whole concept. At home in NY, Mom has gooseberries, choke cherries, black currents, etc etc.. and if you taste them off the vine they are HORRIBLE. You have to do all kinds of stuff with them to taste good.. so why bother??
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