I was never one to believe in Bigfoot-even as a kid I thought it was silly. My family and I just got back from vacation-from Independece Mo. through the Northwest. We were in British Columbia on Highway 1, July 14-2005 at 6:15 p.m. We just passed Mt Revelstoke and were descending down the mountain. There was a semi-no load and two cars in front of us. We were going about 50 miles an hour when something big ran out in front of the Semi. He slammed his brakes on forcing the 2 cars and us to do the same. A day earlier we had saw an elk at Bannif National park, so that is what I thought it was at first. You could see it through the trucks back window and the top of the head stuck out over the Semi's roof, putting it at 7 to 8 feet tall. This was a potential deadly situation, if my companion had not been buckled she would have been thrown through the windshield, plus we were on the side of a mountain. As it cleared the truck I noticed three important things.
1. It had two legs- not four-black as night hair and big.
2. It turned and looked right at us-It had the face of a gorilla except flat nose- slight silver and gray highlights around its face, round human head, small to medium ears that stuck out not folding in-hairy face.
3. It was massive- huge muscled arms back legs- like Shaq in a monkey suit. It walked perfectly upright- no gait like the fake films. No limp, swagger, just calm and straight up.
It had no worrys, not concerned or scared of the traffic, just walked right across the street. It stepped right over the 3 ft gaurdrail without breaking stride, didn't bend knees, stoop or lean, just right over like it was a hurdle. The traffic sat their shocked for a minute before finally crawling ahead. I pulled over to where it stepped across to see if I could see it. It was a sheer dropoff 4000 feet straight down. It was open fields of rocks and boulders as far as you could see-like I said straight down with 2 unclimbable cliffs on both sides- so their must have been a cave down there somewhere. It seemingly disapeared in thin air. My 3 kids were screaming what is that, and honestly I still don't know. We had just visited Vancouver Zoo a few days earlier and saw grizzlies, elk, moose, gorillas, ect and it was bigger than all of them. It had no fat- lean and trim, just ripped with muscles. It looked as if it could have easily picked up the truck if it wanted. We saw a family of mountain goats go down a cliff 3 days before, and there is no way they could have went down this sheer drop off- so I am amazed that is just calmly steeped right over the cliff like that. I had a video camera and a 35mm right next to me but it happened to fast. We were more concerned not dying in a car crash. I have told a few friends who don't believe me-but I know what we saw as a group-Like I said I KNOW WHAT WE SAW!!!! It was sunny out-no tricks of the light-no clouds ect. It was not a joke, it could have been very deadly for all the drivers.
It was not a bear-it did not have a fat stomach!! Anyway, I have become one of those witnesses that I never believed. But as God is my witness, it was 20 feet in front of us and we got a perfect but brief look at something amazing. It is out there, it is real, and one day it will get hit by a car and we will have proof. It is the most magnificent creature we have ever saw, like I said just ripped.

hi ringo good afternoon welcome to the bigfoot forum. wow thats a wonderful sasquatch encounter. could you post a photo of the area of the sighting in this thread. could you draw a sketch of what the creature looked like and post it here if you want to. please keep me and everyone here updated. your encounter realy helped with my sasquatch research. thanks bill green

How wide was the creatures stride in your best estimate? Is there any chance in your mind the creature you saw could have been duplicated, actions and all by a human in a furry suit? No sagrittal (Gads I need a spell check) crest was present? Could you tell from your observation point if it was a male or female creature? Is there a possibility you could make a diagram of what you saw? including geographical features, other cars and witnesses?

KW

Ringo wrote:



Cool, dude. Congrats.

You must mean the head was over the semi's engine hood..not the roof..!?

Could you describe the shape of the ears?

Bill, thank you for the reply. I appreciate someone not thinking I am insane. I guess it is just human nature to be skeptical of anything new. Like I said I was not a believer. As far as pics it happened too fast, and traffic started to build up behind me so we only looked down the cliff for a few moments. But it was clear and you could see for probably 20 miles, and it was nowhere to be found!! When you see something like that, your mind tries to put it into something familiar. Square blocks don't fit into round holes, so it really took probably about 10 minutes for all of us to sink in what we saw. I am a Realtor, basketball coach, and lifelong resident of Indep. and would not put my name on this sight if I was not absolutely sure what I saw.

I have an artist friend, maybe if all of sit down with her and each explain what we saw she could come up with something. Did you ever see Harry and the Henderson's? Silly movie, but they got the size right!!!! the head was all wrong- like I said it was round with a touch of gray/almost silver and hairy. Like a bowlingball with black hair on top of this just ripped body. The head actually looked too small for such a big creature. Even though it was covered in very thick black hair, you could see each muscle move and flex. I am from Missouri and our motto is the Show Me state. If we hadnt seen it first hand I would never in a million years believe. But I KNOW WHAT WE SAW!!!
It is real and I can't wait until people start taking it serious, that there is an undiscovered species-maybe several out there. [name removed for security reasons - pm ringo if you need to know his name - paul]

Two questions to you at this time. Most 'semis" do not have a back window and most have a sleeper compartment behind the drivers area. And are much taller than what you were discribing. Could you be talking about an empty flatbed truck instead of a "semi".
Second is the "seemingly disapearing into thin air" Did you actually get out of the car and looked over the embankment. Or were these your estimations from within the car (I am assuming that your were the driver).
Would it be possible if the other in the car post a statement on what they saw. Preferably independantly writen and not a colaberation.
A word of warning, a lot of people here will question your statement. It is best to take a quick look in recient postings in this room at how some people have handled themself when they posted their experience, for better or worse. Be open with your reponces and do not react poorly if you do not like the questions.

Thanks for the info, but I figured I would get slammed, but I really don't care. I am quit sure it was a Semi cab- no sleep cab-no load, white, six wheel, two on the front and dueleys on the back. Large round tongue to hook up a trailer. And yes the top of the head stuck a few inches over the top of the cab not the dash. We noticed the black object about halfway across the view through the back window. The car directly behind was a small import-not sure, but the car in front of us was a Subaro 4 door wagon, I know this for sure because we almost smashed it within a few inches. The highway was two lanes, only about 3 feet of shoulder on the right were it stepped over. We looked down there as long as we could until traffic honked at us. We were in a 2005 Chevy Minivan so could see directly over the cliff. Like I said it seemed to not have a care in the world, and just stepped right over the gaurd rail like it was nothing. If it was a man in the suit-which is not a posibility, why would they risk many lives and step in traffic? Besides like I said you could see the muscles move and contract, beneath thick but very short black hair. Well I hope this helps. This was not a joke it was a serious life-threatning situation for all of us!!! Jeff

You do realize that semi's are usually 13.5 ft. in height.
That would have made your boy at least 14 ft.

By the way, congratuations on your sighting. A normal semi tractor unit would have 10 wheels, two up front and two sets of dual wheels twords the back of the unit. And are about 8-11 feet high depending on configuration. A flatbed truck would have six wheels. The 2 1/2 ton truck we had on our farm was about 6 1/2 - 7 feet high. If it was not articulated, then it sounds more like a flat bed. Which would make it easier to see over.
As part of the subjects discription, what was the length of the arms in reference to the knees. Did you see its hands and fingers.
Can you give a distance from Mt. Revelstroke and in which direction were you driving. Is there any landmarks that would help some of our B.C. researchers find the location.

After my last post, I wanted to add something. I went through several sites to see if I could find a sketch or photo similar to what we saw, but had no luck. Most look the same, long brown hair, big snouts and mouths, mean looking, pot bellies. Either there are several different creatures or lots of hoaxes!!! This creature was lean and trim, let me repeat RIPPED With Muscles. Not fat and slow looking as most pics I have found. The stride was short but covered a lot of ground. The other thing is all of these footprints. What I saw walked as human, mostly on its front toes-not heal to toe. It was probably in the range of 400 to maybe 550 pounds all muscle and long legs. The arms were proportioned-not dragging the ground like a chimp-or as other sightings suggest. This animal obviously could climb cliffs, and seemed well freindly is not the word but unconcerned- very calm cool and collected-just like out for an evening stroll. The sheer weight would have left a print in mud, but my best guess it would have been toes as the thickest and deepest part, with the heal not leaving much if any print. It was a very smooth walk-not clunky heal first stomping as most reports suggest. In the Patterson film from the 60's that got all the attention and had been proved to be a hoax, it swung its arms and walked with a bend. It also turned its entire body to look at the camera. It had a bulging cranium and an extended nose and fat stomach. This is simply not what we saw at all!!! I hope this helps the really serious investigators with their work. Jeff

Revelstoke is on Hwy# 1..east of Golden near the Alberta border.
About the same distance from Bellingham Washington..to West Montana.

Ringo..could you could go here and do a report...I would be very greatful

http://www.westcoast-sasquatch.com/query.html

Usually, I would not do this over the forum. But you do not have PM ability as of yet!

Thanks!

Might want to change this, too:

Is there any follow-up planned?

Paul- Love the new smilies!! :surrender:

I called my friend to ask her to post but she feels, she would just be made fun of. Her recollections was, she was just beggining to doze off when she heard the truck brakes squeel then we slammed to a stop which jerked her in the seatbelt putting a red mark on her neck and chest. She sat up and asked what happened, I said something is in the road, I think it is an elk because it was tall and the head poked up over the cab, plus we had just saw one in the road the day before. As it cleared I said "what the hell is that!!" She remembers thinking it was someone just crossing the street because it looked so human/ big naked hairy guy/ her words. She clearly remembers the face as monkey like/human and black hair with gray highlights. The kids remember it as a big monkey. So I guess that is why their is so many different oppinions on these sightings. It is really hard to get your brain to understand what you are seeing. The cordinants are Heading west to Vancouver- Highway 1- 10 miles east of Malakwa just past Mt. Begbie which is south from where we were. The creature went North over the railing. I hope this helps. thanks Jeff

Yes I don't mind posting elsewhere as long is it will help somone with some serious research.

I don't think there would be much support for such.
Without the witness, the exact spot would be impossible to find.
Plus it would be probably a ..9 hour drive.. for a sighting over a week old.

Unless someone like Lookout7...or Homer...or Night Goat...wanted to take a peek,
But, As I say..the reported area is way to general. And that part of the country is nothing but steep hills!

I don't doubt the animal you saw was different than the Patterson creature - Patty was female, and I've always thought she may have been pregnant or nursing (recently pregnant) - which would account for her width and gait. Plus some film analysis has determined she may have been favouring a leg with an injured thigh. I've read a few of reports where male sasquatches are described as ripped and muscluar - bodybuilders covered in fur.

By the way - the Patterson film hasn't been proven to be a fake. What has been proven is some liars wrote a lousy book full of contradictions and slander. The jury is still out on Patty.

Congratulations on your sighting I've driven that exact highway many times hoping to see such a thing.

Interesting observation about the ears - they're not often noticed in sighting reports, and not sticking out to the side of the head. First I've heard of it. Just goes to show there is just as much variation in the features of this animal as there are in humans. Cool.

I wonder why humans and sasquatches display so much variation, while other mammals like racoons and bears often look identical? Do other apes like gorillas vary this much from individual to individual?

-Ray

Thanks Jeff!

hello, would it be possible to show us a stock pic of what kind of truck you think it was. this would give the folks here a very good impression of the height of the creature you saw.

thanks.

Hey Ringo, I know a person who saw something very similar to what you report, she stressed the flow of the walk, the height, and the absolute "ripped" nature of the musculature. This was mid summer, in Michigan, so the fur would be at summer short(showing off the underlying structure better, IMO).
She posts here, so at some point maybe she will notice this.
BTW...I don't think you have been slammed at alll, a few questions are not slamming you in any way!
Thanks for the report, and understand we are really serious here..and questions are asked purely to get the full picture.
btw...how did the head/face compare to this?:

hi ringo good evening your very welcome for the reply back to me. thanks for the update about your encounter. i would like to hear from you & your family that had the encounter for more info about it. billgreenctbigfoot@sbcglobal.net when you email me the full detail of the encounter i might tell other researchers about it is that ok. oh by the way please read my sighting in sightings & encounters section of the bigfoot forum. its called my ct bigfoot sighting please give me your honest opinion. also you should try to contact john green im sure someone here can get in touch with him for you. thanks bill green

That is very close drawing, except a couple things. Eyes were black, head was more round and skin was black with black fur all over. The grey highlights were more like a sunflower with no visible beard. Round face. Nose and mouth were human and did not protrude out like that. I am a big NFL fan and this thing could have swatted a linebacker down like a fly. I did a search on Semi's and I think it was a Heavy duty Isuzu flat bed dump truck with no load. Square, with big back and front windows, low to the ground, no sleeper cab, and two sets of duelys on the back. And yes the fur on the creature was very short, but looked layered and I would gues very thick, but muscles rippled with every movement. Like a bodybuilder with hair as described. The muscles were not bulky at all, long and thick from heavy use, like a cougar. I hope that helps. Jeff

Amazing story Ringo! I was just on that highway a few days before as a passenger in a car, I hate driving in B.C. cause I'm so busy watching for a Sasquatch, but I never see anything. I bet that little experience got the adrenaline pumpin'.

Hey Ringo, what a rush right!!!
have look at Paul Smiths Art work do a search here under his name, I would like to know if it's close to what you saw.

What did the other people involved have to say?

Did you exchange phone #'s?

M

Ringo, I will make a final clearification on the truck, in case anyone asks further down the line. I am familier with that type of Isuzu truck. They are like a fishbowl with struts holding up the roof, with plenty of glass. Lower than the 2 1/2 ton trucks I'm use to, so you would have has an easier time looking over the cab. However I doubt if it is a dump truck model, as you would not have been able to see thru the tailgate and the dirt shield over the back of the cab. However a lot of flatbed trucks do have a tilt bed, so the front can be raised and stuff slid off the back. And with that type of bed you could have seen thru the front and back windows.
Thank you for your responces.

Welcome Ringo!



When you said "it seemingly disappeared in thin air" , is that because of the drop from the cliff? It just dropped fast? Or do you believe it just "disappeared"?

Did you see it from behind at all? If you did , can you describe the appearance of the head and neck from behind?

How much time elapsed between the creature going over the cliff and you getting out of your vehicle to look over the cliff?


Thanks in advance!

edited to add: How good are you at judging distance? Would you say your 4000ft drop off was a fairly accurate estimate?

also: Can you describe the terrain on the opposite side of the road where the creature came from?

billgreen2005bigfoot wrote:


God love ya, Bill!
I already sent a copy of this report along to him, Bud!

Ok..

So was the truck a semi or a flatbed? The first truck description sounded like the local coal trucks that run by my house with no trailer I believe they are Macks. But, the second description is a flatbed? What's REALLY going on?

Lots of questions, I am really surprised, because my own Dad laughed at us when we said we saw something. I was real careful not to say "Bigfoot". You have to understand, my first concern was safty. First the truck slammed its brakes on, and at that point I didn't know why. I stomped the brakes, I really thought I was going to rear-end the car in front. We stopped hard enough to throw blankets and other junk from the back to the front, plus yanked my friend violently in the passenger seat. Like I said something big peaked up over the top of the cab, and you could also see through the back window. The precise kind of truck I do not know, but looking at several sites, the one closest was the Isuzu, the Peterbuilts and Fords were too tall and not square enough. It was not a pickup. I saw the back of the creature for like maybe 3 seconds before it went over. Shoulders stuck out more than the buttocks. We were two car lengths back and when traffic finally moved ahead I pulled to the side to look. I say disapeared because, we could see straight down the cliff. Only a stream and rocks-nowhere to hide at all. Even though it hadn't really sunk in, I definately would have snapped some pics if posible. I mean the whole thing happened in a minute. Maybe 20 to 30 seconds or so right in front of us. Perfect view, absolutely perfect view. But that 20 seconds has made me a believer for life. As far as distance down, people from that area could say better but it was not a small drop off by any means, that was the other thing that took time- was how did it get over the cliff like that?? Mountain goats would have plunged to their death. We continued to descend for maybe another 20 to 30 minutes and then up and down as the road goes. We never got out or talked to anyone. The four vehicles kind of sat for a moment in disbelief. If there was a safe place to get out I would of, but my kids safety was more important with traffic coming. It was a nasty stretch of road and could have been deadly. We did tell the lady in the Grants Pass Koa, She had postcards with bigfoot and I asked her if there was a lot of sightings, she said yes but seemed skeptical. I told her we had seen something but, you could just tell she had heard a lot of those stories. Like I said I KNOW WHAT WE SAW. Time will tell all secrets, and eventually someone will become very rich and famous for discovering the new species. It hasn't been long since Pandas, Giant Squid, Anacondas, and several marine species were considered tall tales. I will definately be more alert from now on, but I am a believer!!! Jeff

The part about the casual step over the guardrail seems very inigmatic! Makes me wonder if the big guy took a long and deadly tumble. Even if there was a cave below, would seem he'd use some caution to maintain footing.

Were there any trees on the way down to break a fall??

Wayne

Thanks for coming forward Ringo!

Beans thanks for the tip, I went to Mack truck.com Construction series. and searched through there. My best guess is it looked very close to the Mack MR series with the dump truck, except like 5 years older-it was not a new truck and maybe two or three feet lower to the ground, but square just like that. It was maybe two foot taller than my minivan, and defiantly a semi. As far as jumping, I never said that commited suicide, but it went right over the edge just as casual and calm as could be. No trees at all, wide open rocky plains. Like I said we had just seen an elk and this thing was head and shoulders taller. Well anyway I have said everything I remember, anything else would be a guessing game and there is allready enough of that out there. Good Luck to all. Jeff

Anything like one of these?

Wayne

Multiple witness events often encourage people to contact the authorities, because there are others, and strangers, who can corroborate their story.

Do you know if the police were called?

Ringo,

Thanks for indulging us on so many ???? Sounds like you got a good look at something most of us can only ponder

Wayne

You said the highway was two lanes. Do you mean two lanes on each side, or two lanes altogether? Lots of people confuse the two.

I ask because you said there were two cars and a semi--which I understand had no trailer--in front of you, and that the creature passed in front of the semi. You then say you saw the creature at a distance of 20 feet. That's awfully cozy for three vehicles, especially considering you're all barreling down a mountain road at 50 mph. If you were spread out over two lanes, this would make more sense.

Just to show I'm a fair guy, I'll suggest on your behalf that the downhill angle--if just right--could account for your being able to see the creature over the top of the truck.

Someone on here drew a picture of a BF they had seen, called him "THOR".

Anyone remember this drawing? If so, maybe someone could find it and show it here for ringo.

Heep, I think your refering to RobUstes and the drawing that was made up for him. Do a membership search for Rob. The pic was reposted just a few weeks ago by him.

Here's the link to Paul Smith's Bigfoot Art

Great stuff!

Is this the one?

Headlines, where are the headlines?

Earlier this year, a bunch of people drinking beer at night in Teslin, Yukon claim to have a sighting and it makes headlines all over, BBC had it.

Here, two weeks ago another multiple witness sighting and no one went to the media?

Does anyone have a link to a news site that covered this multiple witness encounter?



HB

Let's give the guy a break. It's obvious that he's not too good with judging distances. 4,000 feet gives you plenty of time to open a parachute. I'm guessing he means "really far down!!" I would bet his "20 feet away" translates to "really close" and close enough to make out details of the 2 to 3 seconds of viewing time.

I get a much better feeling from this report then I have in some of the recent ones. I think this guy has really seen something.... I only wish I were there!

Cut4sign

P.S. I would avoid posting your name and address because we have some real wako's who occasionally drop in and use that info to track you down they can be really annoying and sometimes down right mean.

Same here, it doesn't have some of the questionable earmarks of some recent reports, sounds very interesting.

Also, I wanted to point out something about 'vanishing into thin air'. Magicians do this by misdirection, making you look in the wrong direction. Sometimes we are not even aware that we glanced away.

He may have taken a quick glance at his passenger to see if she was OK without remembering it, then looked back at the creature and it was gone. Which the mind would interpret as having vanished. So it could have had a couple of seconds to move to the other side of the road in all the chaos, just a thought.

He also says he's a basketball coach and big NFL fan. I'm guessing either would be fairly adept at making estimates, especially 20 feet. Distances--and the judging thereof--are important to athletics.



Could be. Then again, there's this:



Sound to anyone else like he doesn't intend to return for more questioning?

Walkingcarpet, I'd say it's a good guess he's maybe not coming back. Almost sounds like he's satisfied with what he saw and that's all that matters.

Laurie, I think that's exactly what it means. That's fine for him, but where does it leave us? I was rather enthusiastic about his responses at first, but it seemed more and more questions kept popping up. Perhaps too many...

Ringo, if you're out there, don't leave us hangin', baby!

We'll be nice!