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Manetheren
While browsing through Bobbie Short's website I came across something in the following article:

One More Debunker Exposed -- A Review of Anthropologist
Dr. David Daegling's Book: "Bigfoot Exposed" / Dmitri Bayanov

"...the accidental capture of a specimen by apple orchard guards in Russian in 1989 ended in the release of the creature because it threatened to ruin the car in which it was imprisoned. Had the car owner been promised a tiny fraction of the reward for the capture of Osama bin Laden, the situation in hominology would now be different. "

Has anyone heard of this incident?
Geodon13
I have not, although I'm very interested to see if any pictures of it were taken......... dry.gif
chronic
http://www.alamas.ru/eng/publicat/Saratov1e.htm
billgreen2005bigfoot
hi everyone wow this is a very interesting story of a russian sasquatch almost captured please keep me informed ok. bill green i hope more info comes out about it. smile.gif smile.gif
seadog
Whatever happened to that story on the supposed Yeti leg that was found a year or two ago that was being studied by Russian scientist to determine it's origin? It seems to be one of those exciting breakthrough stories that just kind of fade away into oblivion with no follow-up.
Paul1968UK
QUOTE(seadog @ Jul 22 2005, 07:24 PM)
Whatever happened to that story on the supposed Yeti leg that was found a year or two ago that was being studied by Russian scientist to determine it's origin? It seems to be one of those exciting breakthrough stories that just kind of fade away into oblivion with no follow-up.

It did just fade away.

If you check back through the original threads, you will see the comparison I posted to the foot of the rare Chemo bear, which is found in the area the 'Yeti' leg was found in - I am convinced they are one-and-the-same.


As for this Almasti story - I hadn't heard it before, but the post-soviet Russian media is a strange beast - I don't trust many stories that come out of there.
RogerKni
This story occurred in Sept. 21, 1989, in the Ukranian city of Kharkov (famous in WW 2) so it wasn't exactly post-Soviet. It was recounted by Bayanov in Bigfoot Co-Op NL for Aug. 1990, and also printed in his book (which all can obtain inexpensively, on Amazon), In the Footsteps of the Russian Snowman, pp. 207-11. There's a picture of the four guys supposedly involved on p. 210. The witnesses were visited and interviewed and taped by folks from the Moscow based association of cryptozoologists.
Huntster
QUOTE(Manetheren @ Jul 22 2005, 10:55 AM)
...the accidental capture of a specimen by apple orchard guards in Russian in 1989 ended in the release of the creature because it threatened to ruin the car in which it was imprisoned....

If they actually got a sasquatch into a car, it probably didn't have to be "released".

It would have no problems or social hangups just exiting through the window.

I can assure you, a bear would have no problem getting into or out of a car without any human help.
belleoftheball
QUOTE(Paul1968UK @ Jul 22 2005, 03:45 PM)
- I don't trust many stories that come out of there.

Who would?
chronic
QUOTE(Huntster @ Jul 22 2005, 10:50 PM)
It would have no problems or social hangups just exiting through the window.

They stuffed him into the trunk.
Huntster
QUOTE(chronic @ Jul 25 2005, 11:40 AM)
QUOTE(Huntster @ Jul 22 2005, 10:50 PM)
It would have no problems or social hangups just exiting through the window.

They stuffed him into the trunk.

Sorry. I'm not familiar with the case.

I still suspect it could get out. I've seen what even a small black bear can do when shut into an 8 yard garbage dumpster.

I wonder who "stuffed him into the trunk", and how he did it.

I'd hate to piss that guy off. If he can stuff a sasquatch into the trunk of a car, he can probably twist me into a pretzel.
Dragoon
I dont think there is too much truth to this story,Unless it was ababy BF, other then that I dont see it happening, Even a baby O or cub can nock you @@@ over tea ketle...
chronic
QUOTE(Huntster @ Jul 25 2005, 11:47 AM)
I wonder who "stuffed him into the trunk", and how he did it.

I'd hate to piss that guy off. If he can stuff a sasquatch into the trunk of a car, he can probably twist me into a pretzel.

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The group moved accordingly. Sergey Pirozhenko, possibly the strongest of them and former amateur boxer, had directed straight to him. Anatoly Yashenko and Sasha Zhemchuzhnikov had rushed from the rear.

The stranger was seen poorly. This part of the garden was not processed for some time and was covered by high grass. This was a hindrance for Sergey to run, once he even had lost equilibrium and hardly kept himself on the legs. And almost had fallen... to clasp of the thief.

He was embraced by a creature having a human figure, but entirely covered by hair. It was almost the same size, as Sergey himself. The creature was ugly, the mouth with yellow teeth was open...

The creature put its hands on Sergey's shoulders. Sergey had tried to released himself from these “embraces” by hard stroke in the torso, but in vain. He physically felt might of the stranger. So they stood some seconds. The creature did not bite, nor it did any hostile actions.

Now the other came to help Sergey. One had picked up a wooden stick and pressed it over the creature head from behind. Other pulled its hands back. The third rushed in its legs, trying to tumble down the stranger. Soon they succeeded.

Sasha found the piece of a cord to wrap the hands of the hairy guest. The legs remained free as they have no more rope.

Four altogether guards had carried the creature to the auto. It resisted easily, occasionally moved its legs, and made strange sounds. The guys had opened luggage back in Zhiguli and jostled the trophy there. Having slammed the door they got time to recover. What to do next?!




edit: translated from Russian, that's why it doesn't read real clearly.
Lyndon
QUOTE(Dragoon @ Jul 25 2005, 02:18 PM)
I dont think there is too much truth to this story,Unless it was ababy BF, other then that I dont see it happening,

It wasn't a B/F at all. The Almas (and based on the description, if the story is true then it sounds like an Almas) appear to be completely different to B/F. More humanlike and not so large and powerful.

The location seems strange. Saratov is on the Volga river about 200 miles northeast of Volgograd(formerly Stalingrad). Most reports and sightings of Almas come from the Caucasus region over 600 miles south of this area while most of the Russian reports of true B/F like creatures come from the areas far to the north or east of the Urals into Siberia i.e nowhere near this place.
Dragoon
Ok, Then what is the gen discription of a Alma? Is it a poss sub species of BF or just diff all together...
magikern
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Ok, Then what is the gen discription of a Alma?


It has been described as very similar to what Neanderthals look like.

Neanderthals are Homo Sapiens just as we. They were Home Sapiens Neanderthalis and we are Homo Sapiens Sapiens.
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