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califb
this sighting report does have a couple of things that make me wonder about the authenticity of it. Such as: if he was so terrified the first night, why didn't he leave right away, or at least the next morning? Also, he knew the exact time everything happened, sometimes down to the minute, and this was during the time he claimed to be terrified for his life. If he thought to check his watch every couple of minutes he couldn't have been that scared. These things could be explained if he was the type of person that obsessively checks his watch (providing he had one on) so he always knows the exact time just in case he needed that information later on, and if he did not leave because of pre-existing brain damage or if he was attempting to commit "suicide by Bigfoot". But even if he is all of those things, and the report had no red flags whatsoever, there is one thing he did say that renders his entire report to be absolutely without any doubt 100% false (and this is not just my opinion, it is a fact). I am talking about the story he told at the end about regarding other encounters in the area:

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in the early 1800's.a man and his daughter were traveling in the woods on a horse and buggie heading home.at one point on thier journey,a bigfoot jumped on the girl's father wear it knocked him off the buggie.the two of them began to fight and wrestle each other.at that point the daughter hollerd at the bigfoot.but that did not work.so she got off the buggy,found a big rock and hit the bigfoot wear she guessed wear the ear would be.it then got up looked at her.then the bigfoot walked off into the woods.her dad had survived the ordeal.


How do I know this never happened and he made it up? Because there isn't a horse on the face of the Earth that isn't in a coma or dead that wouldn't have taken off like a bullet the second the creature appeared, I guarantee it. Horses are prey animals by nature and rely completely on an extremely keen sense of smell, excellent multi directional hearing and 360 degree eyesight to alert them to any potential danger. A perfect example is the reaction of Patterson's horse when they encountered the creature. When Patterson did not allow it to flee it threw itself over backward in a panic in order to escape, which is typical, expected, and universal behavior of horses when encountering an potential predator. The only way that horse MIGHT have stood there is if it had been desensitized to a bigfoot and had determined that it was not a threat prior to the incident. But then, when it began fighting and behaving in an aggressive manner that desensitization would have flown right out the window.
Sean V
No one can say for sure whether the report is true or if it is false.

As for myself, I believe that the man in question saw & heardsomething. Perhaps it was a Sasquatch, then again perhaps it was not.
lt1956
gee Wiz. Thisis the problem with BF research, you wonder why No scientific professional will risk their reputation on BF, Look at it! People sitting there believing this story is true. Its really sad that.

1. People are limited
2. just want to believe so bad they'll suck anything up
3. have other problems. lol
4. No its false but have other motives for saying its true.

This Story has SO MANY red flags that it looks like th USSR! lol Sounds like a young man that wants to tell a story and is a good little story writer.

How about I come up with a story that I know almost ALL here would believe and it would be right out of my imagination. ;-)

Honestly though, people must be more Logical about these type of stores.

P.S. CilifB did a great job pointing out red flags, there are a few more, but honestly this story isnt worth the time.

There are on the other hand very good stories that have more truth in them.
JayleeD
From what you posted, it doesn't seem that you read the thread very carefully. Didn't you see those statements where people were questioning the report?

QUOTE(It1956)
How about I come up with a story that I know almost ALL here would believe and it would be right out of my imagination. ;-)



Sounds like you don't give the people here much credit for having half a brain. Go ahead and try your little experiment and see how far it gets you.
bigstinkyfoot
I think that if you clobber every person who talks about their sighting here right away, most will get insulted and leave. End of story. Am I wrong? Or, is that the way it should be? Then you will end up with basically the cream of the crop of clever hoaxers. That will eliminate most sincere, but traumatized, true witnesses. If you were going to question in a civil manner for a period, what would you stand to lose? Perhaps, if the person is hoaxing a sighting, it would give you more ammunition to prove it. Then, after everyone has time to ask their questions, to a poster who is not terminally offended, and highly pissed, clobber him or her if you absolutely feel the irristible urge. Not saying to use kid gloves, but acting like you know someone is BS'ing the whole thing, please be sure you are right first.
StacyInMI
QUOTE(lt1956 @ Mar 21 2005, 10:48 AM)
gee Wiz. Thisis the problem with BF research, you wonder why No scientific professional will risk their reputation on BF, Look at it! People sitting there believing this story is true. Its really sad that.

1. People are limited
2. just want to believe so bad they'll suck anything up
3. have other problems. lol
4. No its false but have other motives for saying its true.

This Story has SO MANY red flags that it looks like th USSR! lol Sounds like a young man that wants to tell a story and is a good little story writer.

How about I come up with a story that I know almost ALL here would believe and it would be right out of my imagination. ;-)

Honestly though, people must be more Logical about these type of stores.

P.S. CilifB did a great job pointing out red flags, there are a few more, but honestly this story isnt worth the time.

There are on the other hand very good stories that have more truth in them.

Ummmm yeahhhhhh....... welcome? blink.gif
mike2k1
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gee Wiz. Thisis the problem with BF research, you wonder why No scientific professional will risk their reputation on BF



Don't guess you ever heard of Jeff Meldrum

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1. People are limited


How so? Everyone who posted to this thread are highly intellegent, capable people.

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2. just want to believe so bad they'll suck anything up


Where did you see that? Seems like there was alot of questioning going on to me.

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3. have other problems. lol


I fail to see any humor with people's problems.

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4. No its false but have other motives for saying its true.


What is to gain? This is an anecdotal report. No evidence. No pictures. No nothing to substantiate the story. Pretty much, this report was questioned fairly early about the facts. At least, that's how I read it. On the flip side none of us was there either, so as there is 95% doubt of the authenticity of this account, there is still 5% maybe,IMO.

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How about I come up with a story that I know almost ALL here would believe and it would be right out of my imagination. ;-)


O.k., so why would you discredit yourself before you discredit yourself. Now if you report a sighting or tell a tale I won't personally believe jack you say. I also believe when you fabricate, eventually the facts or the lack thereof catch up with you.

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Honestly though, people must be more Logical about these type of stores.


And these types comments.

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but honestly this story isnt worth the time.


But worth the time insulting the people posting to this thread. dry.gif


*edit for spelling, trying to do three things at one time, and being multitask disfunctional.*
sojourner
Look who's talking.
Right back atcha. wacko.gif
Wildman
QUOTE(mike2k1 @ Mar 21 2005, 11:11 AM)
How so? Everyone who posted to this thread are highly intellegent, capable people.

I just thought that I'd post, and by doing so make this statement completely false. wink.gif
mike2k1
QUOTE(Wildman @ Mar 21 2005, 02:57 PM)
QUOTE(mike2k1 @ Mar 21 2005, 11:11 AM)
How so? Everyone who posted to this thread are highly intellegent, capable people.

I just thought that I'd post, and by doing so make this statement completely false. wink.gif

I think I beat you to the punch! new_tonguesmiley.gif
lt1956
The ones I was speaking of were the ones that said I dont know I believe it could be authentic. Not the guys that knew it was fake from the start.

The humor on Problems was MENTAL, I have seen some real nuts talking about Bigfoot. The serious ones you can tell, there are alot of serious logical people on this forum or I wouldnt have posted here at all.

I was speaking to those that still wonder if that story is true. To me its so obvious and yet there are people that will delude themselves are beleive anything. The only people I say doing that are people who swollow what this KID wrote.

As for discrediting myself. lol for one I would never post a joke, 2 look at my profile I NEVER seen a BF. 3. If I seen one it would be just for me I could care less if anyone would ever believe me.

I'm sorry some of you thought I meant you, I didnt. Only the ones who still believe that story is true, and apparently there still are a few. icon_really_happy_guy.gif

Thanks for the welcome guys.

Cheers

Lt
Sean V
Once again.....

No one can say for sure if this report is totally true or utterly false.
hoosierhunter
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undefinedI grabbed my gun and put it on my lap as I sat back down in the chair. I then started hearing sounds of little twigs being crumbled and snapped. I grabbed the flashlight and panned left to right, As I got almost directly out in front of me about 60 feet out in the woods I came across a pair of eyes eight feet off of the ground. The eyes were the size of golf b*lls,further apart than humans. The color of the eyes were blue,and the pupils were fully open and i could see the whites of the circumference.then the eyes disappeard.


1- As was stated above in this thread, the idea of seeing eyes through the woods 60 feet is troublesome.

2- I do think if I was truly as scared as I think I would be in this situation and had a gun, I would have blasted the BF right then and there. unsure.gif


Edited to add: Why didn't he fire a warning shot? The friend would have at least jumped out of bed realizing something really was wrong. I still like this post and think it could be legit.
hoosierhunter
Other sighting in that county sounds like a copy of this one. huh.gif
mike2k1
QUOTE(SFS @ Mar 22 2005, 12:10 AM)
Once again.....

No one can say for sure if this report is totally true or utterly false.

Absolutly true, Sarge! thumbup.gif
bipto
QUOTE(bipto @ Feb 28 2002, 05:58 PM) *
I also doubt very seriously that most people would fake a sighting. I mean, why? The only reason (besides sheer bloody-mindedness) would be to yank the chain of those of us predisposed to believe them.

Holy crap, did I have a lot to learn. What a newb. rolleyes2.gif
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