I came across this web site http://www.yowiehunters.com/ and started reading about there expeditions which are fantastic. This group seems to have many encounters.
These are the guys that say that they saw a yowie wince when they turned on there I.R mode on there night vision goggles, which would give some credit to why people can't get pictures with I.R triggered game cameras. Does anyone know anything about these guys, are they known hoxers(sp) that I just don't know about?

I dont know that they have ever been caught in a hoax but I DO know that they are very friendly with the GCBRO.

You're right ... their expeditions ARE fantastic ... maybe even a little bit too fantastic.

I dont know ... you can observe them over a period of time and make your own conclusions.

oh oh sounds like ya oughta tread lightly then on the "shores of believeability"
George, anybody else familiar with what kind of verifications there are for the Yowie? I AM curious.

Just what I've seen on TV and read on the web.

What's wrong with the GCBRO? I thought they were basically legit, despite having a mindbogglingly ugly website...

-robo

You can say that again!

GCBRO - from whence Mary Green sprang...

nuff said?

The GCBRO is just about as legit as a three dollar bill.

seriously? why?

-robo

robo ...

Pay them your $60 and just hang out and observe for at least one year. After that see if you feel that its a legit operation or just a Bigfoot version of the WWF and Boyscouts all rolled into one.

(I tend to think its the latter)

Oh, you mean that they are incompetent? I thought perhaps you meant that the whole site was crazed ramblings like EB or Mary Green's stuff. AFAIK, they do actually go out in the field and look for stuff..

-robo

No sir, I do not mean they are incompetent. I mean they are bogus.

The GCBRO is just like the Boyscouts ... you pay your money and get your GCBRO hat and T-Shirt (Boyscout uniform) and then you get to go to Bigfoot "Jamborees" (BBQs) or go "Bigfoot Camping"! (Big Hunts) Oh boy what fun!

They charge you a membership fee and then charge you again to attend a BBQ or "Big Hunt" ...

At the BBQ you will be free to wander around a specific area and find "tracks" that you can cast (at your own expense) or "bigfoot poop" you can take home (at no extra charge). In the "Big Hunts" you will be confined to a specific site in a tree stand and ordered to not come down under any circimstances. Of course you will hear trees shaking and Bigfoot will roar at you, he may even throw rocks at your tree stand but you wont see him even if you have the best night vision money can buy (and if you dont have night vision at all Bigfoot may even shake your tree stand!).

In between these types of events there is lots of strutting around by Bobby Hamilton and Jim Lansdale telling lots of tall tales of the ones that got away and how next time they are going to get that harry buggar! Of course they will hit you up for another $60 bucks when your year is up and promise you another chance to find evidence at the next BBQ or a chance to shoot one of those hairy "monkeys" at the next Big Hunt ... for a price ...

No sir they are quite competent ... at getting in your wallet.

In short the GCBRO is the Bigfoot equivalent of pro wrestling ...
The GCBRO is not real ... its just "Entertainment".

Uhm ... George ? uh, .. i dont mean to sound persnickity, buttttt, could we not compare or say in the same sentence, boyscouts and the WWF and CGBRO , or in the same paragraph for that matter ??

*quote* The GCBRO is just like the Boyscouts ... you pay your money and get your GCBRO hat and T-Shirt (Boyscout uniform) and then you get to go to Bigfoot "Jamborees" (BBQs) or go "Bigfoot Camping"! (Big Hunts) Oh boy what fun! *unquote*
This insults the Scouts !!!! Can they sue for use of thier uniform ????? Or is Bob Ham just too uninventive to create a unique "look" for the GCers?? (i guess straight jackets wouldnt look "cool" )

I personally think the scouting program is a wonderful way to get the kids an outdoor education, prepare them to (God forbid) survival in an emergency, teach them to play well with others and besides, get the city kids out in the woods camping !!

It was while on a scouting trip along the Appalachian Trail, that i had my first encounter with Big Fuzzy, late nite, loud annoyed vocal and brush thrashings from the ridgetop.
So, can i blame the BSA for my bigfootery ??
Wheres my Sasquatchery merit badge, dangit !?!?!

Rob,

I agree that the BSA is a great organization that educates kids of all walks of life.

I was a scout myself. The BSA taught me basic camping skils, woodsmanship, first aid and to how survive in the widlerness. They also taught me how to think for myself. In this they differ drastically from the GCBRO.

Good Evening Footers!


At those BBQ do they have "Bigfoot Chip Tossing" contests ????

Actually the GCBRO hats and T-shirts do look pretty cool. They are black and have a GCBRO logo designed by Bill Asmussen. I estimate the retail value at just about $30.00 but if you want a hat and T-shirt the only way to get them is to join the GCBRO and that costs you $60.00 but besides getting that cool GCBRO "uniform" you also get to see "new reports" as they come in and not have to wait for the monthly updates like non members. Plus you get the right to pay even more money to Bob Ham & co. so you can attend their "events".

My grandmother would call that a money rackette(just more slang from the south)in which means an easy way to get money for nothing and that the whole thing is about the money,right? ...tennessee hills

IMHO, any organization that charges "dues" of its volunteer members is nothing more than a money racket. According to Mary Green in some of her ramblings about the GCBRO, the main thing that the money is used for is to buy Bobby H. and Jimmy L. more toys for themselves. It's not really used to purchase research equipment. Of course, the GCBRO isn't a research organization at all, its a huntin' club with a pitiful bag record.

AMEN BROTHER! YOU CAN SAY THAT AGAIN!

So I take it we have no GCBRO members on this site?

I live in Australia and have been following the adventures of AHR / YowieHunters for several years now. I have been to one particular area that they research (SpringBrook) several times. On my initial visit (non-yowie related) I heard what maybe considered vocalizations and matched earlier recording from the US on comparison (mine). Subsequent visits and conversations with individuals mentioned as witnesses and locals by the YowieHunters made me somewhat suspicious of their claims. Mostly creative interpretation mixed with marketing so to speak.

I have followed their website and message board extensively for years now. The fact that their message board does not archive past one page lets them off the hook frequently. There have been many claims of evidence such as pictures etc. that have been claimed to exist and are ready to be loaded on the "next update" only to never appear. This is not a one off occurance.

At one point they claim to have been contacted by a family who was forced to move away from their home because they were harassed daily for an extended period of time and could no longer stay there. No other media reported this and after the initial whoopla the YowieHunters filed no further reports.

They claim that there is an area in the Blue Mountains of NSW that an entire neighborhood is so familiar with these creatures that they don't even consider it strange to experience them in one form or fashion and frequently. Still no significant evidence.

The list goes on and on. Are they full of it? Who knows but I'm not impressed.

I can only be certain of one thing. I am sure that if you did go on an "overnight" expedition with them you would need a change of underwear because they would ensure that you $#!+ your pants.

Cheers,
Martin

Apparently not.

Man, I remember reading about this a while back somewhere. I always wondered why someone in the neighbourhood hadn't just taken a photo... or left a video camera filming out of a window or something...

Good Question.....

I'm sure you will be hearing from them shortly.


I'll be in my room ...um.....thinking.

Robert

Well, I did prefer to keep that low key...

But, if you must know...

I suppose I should go ahead and come clean about it...

I used to be a Boy Scout...

There, I said it, and I'm very relieved that's out in the open now!

Don't forget to take your meds.

Thank you Martin for the response. Thats kind of how I felt about them also. They seem to have alot of strorys to tell from years of expeditions, but no real good evidence to back it up with. I'm not saying that they don't see or hear what the do, but every time they go into the field they have a fantastic encounter.

I'll give the Yowie guys in Oz one thing. A new slant on the whole
evidence thing, bite marks on trees...

http://www.yowiehunters.com/yowie/pics/fol...2/foliage_2.htm

I'm still trying to think of what else might've done that to the trees
(short of an axe )

An 8 foot tall beaver?

Maybe they have tastier trees down there...

Well, one thing is kind a telling, a quick brows through their links page. Who is included and more so, who is not...
Mary Green's page figures prominently as does the gcbro, yet, the BFRO is not listed at all, in any section. Who they consider legitimate, and aparently, who they don't consider worthy of at least a link, is very interesting.....

Maybe the trees there are different from the ones here, but I don't understand why the tree would be half bitten into if they were looking for grubs and lizzards.

These tend to live right under the bark here.

MOM I SWEAR,I WAS COMBING MY HAIR....From my heart and from my hands why don't people understand...my intention.ooooo.

Oh great!

One more thing to worry about now…

8-foot tall beavers bite!

NW, one thing that needs to be factored in is the reciprocal link. I can tell you from experience that the bfro is not going to put a link to your site on theirs if you are a Bigfoot research group. We do not have a link to their site on ours either. I figure that they do not need any extra advertisement.

I don't understand this. To me, I would think that unless there is money to be made, that most groups of researchers would be willing to share information with each other. Please explain this to me. Aren't we all in this for the same common goal...to get proof of existence.

Sorry, I just don't get it. I know, I'm a newbie, but.....???????

Somebody track down the thread called "The Politics of Bigfoot Researchers" for JayLee...

I'll see if I can find it.

The Politics of Bigfoot Researchers

I'd commit a misdemeanor or lesser felony to be listed on the BFRO links page, but I've given up trying. Some of the sites they do list don't even exist anymore. They should probably just drop their links page altogether...

Thanks Arkansan...I'll read up on this and try to be more "politically correct" in my posting.

JayLee

Actually Joe Heinan is a low level GCBRO flunky ... he posts here using mnbigfoot as his ID.

He was Mary Green's flunky originally but jumped ship when Mary split with the GCBRO.

As far as I know Joe is the only GCBRO member to post here but I imagine that MANY are lurking. They just dont post because Bobby Hamilton prefers that GCBRO members only post to the GCBRO forum.

George, i'm starting to get the impression that, you dont care much for the GCBRO very much ... but i could be wrong and misreading your posts

The big thing i have for my "not a good feeling" towards them is not only thier cheezy circus side show appearing website, and the spectacular reports, but also as pointed out, their "membership" tactics. Not to mention their "elitist" thinking