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blair Tucker
Since one of my hobbies is setting out trail cams to capture wildlife I was wondering if anyone has seen any pictures posted of a possible bf.
The cameras are getting cheaper. 60.00 film camera compared to 500 just a few years ago and thus more are getting set out. I keep 2 or 3 out all year. I have a digital one that can take a thousand picutures before the card is full.
Hats not included please.
JayleeD
Take a look at this thread B. Some good conversation for sure. smile.gif

http://www.bigfootforums.com/index.php?showtopic=1913
blair Tucker
Thank J,
I thought there might be something out there by now.
Since more and more of these cameras are out there capturing wildlife and people tend to set them in thick isolated areas so they won't be stolen, I feel more bf pics are on the way. The -mart stores have the Stealth for 60.00 now, a price pretty affordable. I have several and have gotten some nice pic of bear, coyote, and lots of coons. You researchers ought to grab a few and set them out. I would try to camo the cameras by placing limbs with leaves around them. Be sure the limbs won't fall in front of the lense or sensor. Place some bait out in front of the camera about 12-15 ft. away or apple scent to draw them into place. Trail cams have a slow wake up period of 6-12 seconds so an animal may pass undetected hence the need for bait. The digital cameras are more expensive, around 180- 250.00 but can take up to 1500 pics with a 1 gig card. You can cover an area for up to 2 months with out having to go in and leave your scent behind to change film and batteries. They even take 12-15 second video clips (no audio) if you set the camera to do so. When they take a day photo, there is no sound at all when the camera takes a pic. This is nice since it does not alert the animal so it would want to push the tree over. cool.gif

A company call Leaf River will have an infrared trail camera which comes out next month that takes black and white shots at night without using a flash. It will take color day photos as well. No noise, no flash- Now that is a bf getter! new_thumbsupsmileyanim.gif
xjay
blair, I've tried to send you a personal message, could you please send me one. I have a game-cam photo for you to take a look at.
primal_scream
XJay, why not post it for all to see?
dude
dry.gif Yes I agree
blair Tucker
x-jay,
pm sent.
rams
This is from greybeard's Forum-this poster supposedly has had success with trailcams, but will not post his pictures-Apparently, however, if your in Oklahoma, you can drop by and see them.



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Hi BigBill
Yes your right about Bigfoot owning the night. But I have witnessed tree knocking, anywhere from early morning, and mid-after noon as well. If you ever get to Okla, give me a call and I will show you some of my Bigfoot pictures that I have of him. All taken during the daylight hours. I have a few of him at night, but, they are blurry, or he is just out of the flash range of the camera, as it was taken at night.

There are a few of the Graybeard board members, that live here in Okla, that have come by and saw my pictures, and it pretty well made believers of them.

Me and a couple of my friends, have been doing serious Bigfoot hunting now for 5 years, as for me I have been doing it for the last 17 years.

We have come to the conclusion, that Bigfoot travels, mainly in the afternoon, or I should say that our game camera, have more pictures of him in the afternoon, that anytime of the day. Now we have witnessed him at night as well, but as far as getting any pictures of him, ---we have more of the afternoon type than anyother. My theory, is that is when he wakes up and starts, to move around? and then continuing all night of hunting. One recent excellent picture I have of a female Bigfoot carrying a baby on her right shoulder. The picture was taken at 15:59, along a creek bank.

If you have some of these game camera, you can set them up around a creek bank, and leave them for a week and then check the battery power after one week, (that as long as the AA batteries seem to last), change the batteries, and leave the camera for another week or until the roll of film has all been taken up and see what you have. We probably use 180 rolls of film, in a years time, on six of our game cameras, and we have been doing it for 5 years, and as of yet, we have only about 5 pictures of Bigfoot. Now that`s running the camera, day and night--24-7-365 days a years.

Yes you did hear Bigfoot knocking, and if your lucky, you will get a chance to see him or get a picture. At least rest assured that you have one or more in your area.

bullet maker Happy
Link to Greybeard's Forum
Josh Willard
Haven't seen that forum before! Thanks! new_thumbsupsmileyanim.gif
rams
QUOTE(JVD @ Jun 23 2005, 03:11 PM)
Haven't seen that forum before! Thanks! new_thumbsupsmileyanim.gif

No problem, there's some interesting stuff there for outdoorsmen as well as the BF discussion.
blair Tucker
QUOTE(rams @ Jun 23 2005, 03:09 PM)
This is from greybeard's Forum-this poster supposedly has had success with trailcams, but will not post his pictures-Apparently, however, if your in Oklahoma, you can drop by and see them.



QUOTE
Hi BigBill
Yes your right about Bigfoot owning the night. But I have witnessed tree knocking, anywhere from early morning, and mid-after noon as well. If you ever get to Okla, give me a call and I will show you some of my Bigfoot pictures that I have of him. All taken during the daylight hours. I have a few of him at night, but, they are blurry, or he is just out of the flash range of the camera, as it was taken at night.

There are a few of the Graybeard board members, that live here in Okla, that have come by and saw my pictures, and it pretty well made believers of them.

Me and a couple of my friends, have been doing serious Bigfoot hunting now for 5 years, as for me I have been doing it for the last 17 years.

We have come to the conclusion, that Bigfoot travels, mainly in the afternoon, or I should say that our game camera, have more pictures of him in the afternoon, that anytime of the day. Now we have witnessed him at night as well, but as far as getting any pictures of him, ---we have more of the afternoon type than anyother. My theory, is that is when he wakes up and starts, to move around? and then continuing all night of hunting. One recent excellent picture I have of a female Bigfoot carrying a baby on her right shoulder. The picture was taken at 15:59, along a creek bank.

If you have some of these game camera, you can set them up around a creek bank, and leave them for a week and then check the battery power after one week, (that as long as the AA batteries seem to last), change the batteries, and leave the camera for another week or until the roll of film has all been taken up and see what you have. We probably use 180 rolls of film, in a years time, on six of our game cameras, and we have been doing it for 5 years, and as of yet, we have only about 5 pictures of Bigfoot. Now that`s running the camera, day and night--24-7-365 days a years.

Yes you did hear Bigfoot knocking, and if your lucky, you will get a chance to see him or get a picture. At least rest assured that you have one or more in your area.

bullet maker Happy
Link to Greybeard's Forum

It would be nice to see them.
He could post them here anonymously and not have to worry about ridicule, that is, if they are real. They don't even have to be real looking, just real.
SnoChoJoe
U should search for East Texas Jims gam cam photos.
nightwing
QUOTE(SnoChoJoe @ Jun 28 2005, 02:34 PM)
U should search for East Texas Jims gam cam photos.

If you mean East Texas Steve, I have seen them, and was not wow'ed to any degree.
ZippyChippy
Here's a nice live feedfrom "waitingforbigfoot.com."

For what it's worth.

ZC
Slippery Killa
Nice, im checking out the live feed right now, wonder if ill see anything?
blair Tucker
I did not have any luck with finding East Texas Steve. Any help here?

Has anyone seen an animal of any kind in the live link up?


X-jay,
any more photos of late?
I had a trail cam opened up by something that did not leave a mark.
Strange. I'm thinking a vandal. It soaked my cam and ruined it. new_grrr.gif
xjay
Hi Blair, No new pics yet. I'm hoping to visit Oklahoma before the summer's over. August of last year is when is when the game cam photo was taken. Right now I'm checking out a spot in Illinois. I can here something running at the edge of the woods everytime I go there and make a few calls. I like the pattern that has been set, and soon I plan on placing out the game cams. With a little luck we'll see if it's a B/F.
blair Tucker
Good to hear from you X-jay.
I hope you have some luck in Illinois.
I saw that the old model Stealth has dropped to 50.00 at Walley World which makes it affordable to buy several to set out.

I think bf is a creature of habit. If not pressured, it will travel the same hidden trails and as long as the food holds out, will feed and rest in the same place.
A serious bf researcher needs to think like a hunter otherwise the chances of an encounter are reduced to almost nothing.
The areas where such an animal hides out are in the most remote areas. Areas so thick and rough one would be a fool to enter unless a good GPS unit could guide them in and out. There one could set out cameras along creeks and streams along with some scent or bait. Trail cameras miss animals traveling along a trail often because the wake up time on the camera is too long so you have to get the animal to stop. Get in and get out as quick and quiet as possible. Give the cameras 3 weeks to do their job before going back in.
I read about expeditions on other sites and shake my head.
Spending a week or less in certain areas with a group of people waking trails and roads, blasting calls, ect.. is not going to work.
blair Tucker
QUOTE(blair Tucker @ Jul 12 2005, 03:43 PM)
I read about expeditions on other sites and shake my head.
Spending a week or less in certain areas with a group of people waking trails and roads, blasting calls, ect.. is not going to work.

Dang,
I thought that would get a rise out of someone. happy.gif
escAPEe
Back in June 2005, a poster named Bullet Maker was claiming to have a similar set of photographs including one that shows a female Bigfoot carrying a baby on her shoulder.

Could it be that this set of game camera photographs is not "new" after all?

QUOTE
Hi BigBill
Yes your right about Bigfoot owning the night. But I have witnessed tree knocking, anywhere from early morning, and mid-after noon as well. If you ever get to Okla, give me a call and I will show you some of my Bigfoot pictures that I have of him. All taken during the daylight hours. I have a few of him at night, but, they are blurry, or he is just out of the flash range of the camera, as it was taken at night.

There are a few of the Graybeard board members, that live here in Okla, that have come by and saw my pictures, and it pretty well made believers of them.

Me and a couple of my friends, have been doing serious Bigfoot hunting now for 5 years, as for me I have been doing it for the last 17 years.

We have come to the conclusion, that Bigfoot travels, mainly in the afternoon, or I should say that our game camera, have more pictures of him in the afternoon, that anytime of the day. Now we have witnessed him at night as well, but as far as getting any pictures of him, ---we have more of the afternoon type than anyother. My theory, is that is when he wakes up and starts, to move around? and then continuing all night of hunting. One recent excellent picture I have of a female Bigfoot carrying a baby on her right shoulder. The picture was taken at 15:59, along a creek bank.

If you have some of these game camera, you can set them up around a creek bank, and leave them for a week and then check the battery power after one week, (that as long as the AA batteries seem to last), change the batteries, and leave the camera for another week or until the roll of film has all been taken up and see what you have. We probably use 180 rolls of film, in a years time, on six of our game cameras, and we have been doing it for 5 years, and as of yet, we have only about 5 pictures of Bigfoot. Now that`s running the camera, day and night--24-7-365 days a years.

Yes you did hear Bigfoot knocking, and if your lucky, you will get a chance to see him or get a picture. At least rest assured that you have one or more in your area.

bullet maker Happy
blair Tucker
DDA,
any more good or bad luck with the trailcams?


For those interested,
Wally World has a 1.3 mp Moultrie for 99.00 that accepts up to a 256MB card which on low resolution can take up to a 1000 pics. The 6V lattern battery can last up to 3 weeks and much longer with a solar pannel added. The 35mm Stealthcam is now 50.00. They are fun to set out for wildlife photos and who knows, maybe something else. I still believe one day the trailcam will take a good clear picture/s of bf if they exist. As I said before, there are too many of the cams out there now snapping pictures, we just need to keep putting them out.
VAFooter
Has anyone every experimented with placing two (or more) trailcams facing each other? If one is messed with, hopefully the other will show something. Of course if it is somebody stealing them, then you are out of luck. mad.gif


Anyway, a thought...
Dillrod
I would think if someone lived near and active area to bait a place over time then put out the camera. That way you put it in an out of the way or hidden where somebody walking down a trail wouldn't steal it. I think bigfoot is still somewhat a creature of habit. I think all animals are, they tend to come back to places where finding food and shelter are easy. Why do a lot of work looking for food when you can be lazy and let someone feed you. Like laziness leads to efficency.
I'd sure love to go out and do a search some day. I live Pensacola Florida, I'm a little worried about looking around here, I might come back play'n a banjo! Yikes!
Bitter Monk
QUOTE(Dillrod @ Mar 8 2006, 06:49 PM) *
I would think if someone lived near and active area to bait a place over time then put out the camera.


That's exactly what we do.
Sam Farris
At the risk of sounding like a romantic, I think ole’ BF doesn’t get NEAR the respect he deserves. I think there are a lot of people on this forum that believe BF is nothing more than an ape that walks on two feet. I suspect BF is a lot closer to human than he is to ape.

In my opinion, setting up a camera along a well-used game trail in a BF habitat/territory is like putting up a volleyball net in someone’s backyard and expecting they won’t notice.

Imagine you are a BF that has primarily grown up, survived and hunted, 24/7, in let’s say a 50 square-mile area for 25-years. As observant as these creatures appear to be (as evidenced by their stealth), I would think a game camera would stick-out like a sore-thumb. Granted, they most likely would not know what it is, but I think they would have no problem determining it is not natural (i.e. ‘human’ origin) and something to be avoided. They certainly have a ‘knack’ for avoiding us and I believe it is not all happenstance. I suspect they actively avoid us, and for good reason. They are most likely not ‘cognizant’ of the fact that human contact could spell the ‘end of paradise’ for them. In my opinion, their way of life and almost ‘Garden of Eden’ existence will surely end upon their scientific discovery.

It is obvious that all other primate existence has been affected by human contact and some driven close to extinction. For the majority of primates, they can, and will, survive our poisoning because our attention is easily distracted. I fear our attention/attraction to BF will prove fatal for the species. As with Koko the ape, man will attempt to ‘humanize’ BF, and likely destroy him in the process.

Sorry for the tangent.

Sam
BFskinner
QUOTE(Sam Farris @ Mar 8 2006, 08:48 PM) *
At the risk of sounding like a romantic, I think ole’ BF doesn’t get NEAR the respect he deserves. I think there are a lot of people on this forum that believe BF is nothing more than an ape that walks on two feet. I suspect BF is a lot closer to human than he is to ape.

In my opinion, setting up a camera along a well-used game trail in a BF habitat/territory is like putting up a volleyball net in someone’s backyard and expecting they won’t notice.

Imagine you are a BF that has primarily grown up, survived and hunted, 24/7, in let’s say a 50 square-mile area for 25-years. As observant as these creatures appear to be (as evidenced by their stealth), I would think a game camera would stick-out like a sore-thumb. Granted, they most likely would not know what it is, but I think they would have no problem determining it is not natural (i.e. ‘human’ origin) and something to be avoided. They certainly have a ‘knack’ for avoiding us and I believe it is not all happenstance. I suspect they actively avoid us, and for good reason. They are most likely not ‘cognizant’ of the fact that human contact could spell the ‘end of paradise’ for them. In my opinion, their way of life and almost ‘Garden of Eden’ existence will surely end upon their scientific discovery.

It is obvious that all other primate existence has been affected by human contact and some driven close to extinction. For the majority of primates, they can, and will, survive our poisoning because our attention is easily distracted. I fear our attention/attraction to BF will prove fatal for the species. As with Koko the ape, man will attempt to ‘humanize’ BF, and likely destroy him in the process.

Sorry for the tangent.

Sam



Nice tangent Sam. I agree with much of what you say. I believe that an hypothesis of "Bigfoot is so difficult to prove (photo, kill, capture, etc) because these creatures are intellegent" is a credible argument. What other reasonable explanation can be offered?

They instinctually avoid human contact? Most animals do. I have happened upon many animals in the wild and most of them either hide or run but if motivated enough I could capture or kill any of them (some of which I have).

The population is too small, the needle in the haystack situation? Reports of sightings come in consistantly. Footprints are found quite often. Habituation has been documented (Hanobia).

Paranormal? Whooops won't go there!

Wether BF is close to man genetically will never be determined without good physical evidence (body). I tend to side with Prof. Jeff Meldrum when he says he believes BF to be a "cousin to man and not a missing link". Potentially intellegent none the less.

As far as scientific discovery causing BF more problems. Probably so. But I believe BFs stealth will still serve them well even after "discovery".

RC
blair Tucker
One way I put my trailcams up is to use a climbing treestand and climb up around 12 feet and position the camera facing downward. I cable lock the camera in and prop a stick behind it to get the proper angle.
My cams have taken pics of people walking down the trail that did not have a clue. Digital trailcams make no noise at all and only thing that attacts attention to them is the flash which can go off in the early morning or before dark. At 12-14 feet high most people can't reach them without a ladder , climbing stand or by cutting the tree down. I agree, they do stick out even though you brush them in to try to hide them but people and maybe bf typically don't look up as they walk. The digital IR trailcams have no flash which would be even better.
walkingcarpet
QUOTE(BFskinner @ Mar 9 2006, 06:10 AM) *
Nice tangent Sam. I agree with much of what you say. I believe that an hypothesis of "Bigfoot is so difficult to prove (photo, kill, capture, etc) because these creatures are intellegent" is a credible argument. What other reasonable explanation can be offered?


Uh, that they don't exist? Or if you prefer, exist in insufficient numbers to have been recorded by a game cam.

There are many reports that actually suggest the exact opposite of what you and Sam are discussing--bigfoot seem to be, in fact, quite fascinated by human technology. Remember the original Jerry Crews story?

In the end it's really about the math--North America encompasses well over 7 million square miles. Not all of that is suitable potential habitat for bigfoot, of course, but it's probably a lot more than you'd think. Trail cams and game cams cover a very small area--I don't know for sure, but I'd venture less than 150 square feet. So even if there were 10,000 game cams operating across North America at any given time, that would leave some 5.5 million square miles uncovered. That's a lot of room for any bigfoot to get around in. So it's safe to assume that if bigfoot exist, none have happened to heve been in the same place and time as an operating game cam.

At least, not yet. :wink:
blair Tucker
How true.
But something out there is better than nothing. For instance if a sighting occurs and
if a bf happens to stay around in a given area even for a short period of time before moving on it might be worth the effort to put out as many cams as one could with some bait of some kind. Maybe something like a sock soaked in oil of anise and hung by a string and slung over a limb 8 feet up in a tree might work. I do this for attracting deer and the coons and bears can't get to it.
I keep hoping a cam will get one since they are mainly set out for deer and bf supposively preys on them.
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