Hey people,
How much room to move has Bigfoot got in Gifford Pinchot National Forest? The official website states that GPNF is in total 1,368,300 acres, with 180,600 acres of Wilderness areas. I've never been to GPNF, and I live in Norway so am not likely to soon!
I know there are numerous trails throughout the Forest but just how much Forestry lies beyond this? Can you leave the trails and hike into unchartered forest, or do you soon end up upon another trail (is it allowed to leave the trails and venture into virgin wilderness?)? Are there areas of GPNF that have yet to be explored?
Sorry if my question(s) seem a bit naieve(sp) but I just want an idea as to how much cover Bigfoot has got.
I've read stuff on the web about people saying a hunter should have shot one, or we should have more decent video footage etc., and the argument is that there is just too much forest through which to search... just how much...?
Thanks in advance for all reletive answers.
Dylan.
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No professor here but...
In my own state of Oklahoma, it would be very easy for me to get lost deep in our mountain forests.
How much easier for an intelligent being that LIVES in them not to be found?
In my own state of Oklahoma, it would be very easy for me to get lost deep in our mountain forests.
How much easier for an intelligent being that LIVES in them not to be found?
The Cascade Mountains of Washington and Oregon States is very brushy (especially on the western [or "wet"] side of the mountain devide) and thick plantings of trees. Visability in a lot of the forests are down to 20 meters or less. Hikers have a tendency to stay on the trails. As it is too rough to get off for any distance. Also a lot of the trails are either in the mountain valleys or along ridgelines leaving a lot of untouched areas in between. To give you an idea of how rough the area is, the Frederal Aviation Administration reports some 70 missing aircraft in the Cascades. Ranging from before WW-II aircraft to a jet trainer that is believed to have come down near a freeway late last year. Also remember that there are private lands and indian reservations on both sides of GPNF, nearly all of which is heavily forested. It is not an island of forests surrounded by major industrial citys as in parts of Europe. So with the exception of some villages, small towns, farms and roads - you can have woods all the way from the Columbia River to the Pacific Ocean.
Hope you will be able to make it to the region someday.
Hope you will be able to make it to the region someday.
Hi Billkirbywofb,
Just some reference for you. Norway (including Svalbard and Jan Mayen) is 385,199 sq. kilometers. There are 247.105 acres in a square kilometer. This means that there are 95,184,598.895 acres in Norway. Therefore the just this park is about 1/69.5 Norway's large.
If that doesn't confuse you I'm full of stupid trivia.
Just some reference for you. Norway (including Svalbard and Jan Mayen) is 385,199 sq. kilometers. There are 247.105 acres in a square kilometer. This means that there are 95,184,598.895 acres in Norway. Therefore the just this park is about 1/69.5 Norway's large.
If that doesn't confuse you I'm full of stupid trivia.
Your right - I'm confused 
It should be noted that Gifford Pinchot National Forest is just part of the National park, forest, monument and wilderness areas that run up both sides of the Cascade Mountains devide.
Along the Cascades you have 2 National Parks, 1 National Volcanic Monument, 4 National Forests, 15 Wilderness Areas and 2 National Recreation Areas. Just in the Cascade Crest area of Washington State alone.
And these can extend from the edge of Columbia River in the east part of the State - to within 25 miles of the city of Seattle.
So even with over 6 million people, Washington State has an large amount of it's total land wrapped up in protected areas. With a minumim of roads and trails. Camp sites in designated zones. And a desire to keep people to some areas of national forests and pretty much out of the widerness areas.
If Whats There? can add up the Federal Forests lands listed above for us, it will give a better Idea for Bigfoot territory (as reports have come from all these areas) and not just the G.P.N.F. And then how the whole compares to Norway.
It should be noted that Gifford Pinchot National Forest is just part of the National park, forest, monument and wilderness areas that run up both sides of the Cascade Mountains devide.
Along the Cascades you have 2 National Parks, 1 National Volcanic Monument, 4 National Forests, 15 Wilderness Areas and 2 National Recreation Areas. Just in the Cascade Crest area of Washington State alone.
And these can extend from the edge of Columbia River in the east part of the State - to within 25 miles of the city of Seattle.
So even with over 6 million people, Washington State has an large amount of it's total land wrapped up in protected areas. With a minumim of roads and trails. Camp sites in designated zones. And a desire to keep people to some areas of national forests and pretty much out of the widerness areas.
If Whats There? can add up the Federal Forests lands listed above for us, it will give a better Idea for Bigfoot territory (as reports have come from all these areas) and not just the G.P.N.F. And then how the whole compares to Norway.
1 million acres of forest...you could hide and armored brigade even a batallion in it no problem
I know this post was originally in 2005 But on the off chance the Author returns to this sight.
The GPNF is pretty big there are a few areas where it may be as much as 7 or 8 miles between roads and occasionally 4-5 miles between trails.
I used to be out there every weekend and some week days looking for gold. I saw 4 people off the road in a 2 year period. I see a person or two on trails occasionally. But most people are on the roads and not a great deal of people even then.
I dont usually hike a long distance not usually more than 5 or 10 miles sometimes up to 22 miles a day.
Anyhow I rarely , lets say 2% of the time do I ever see anyone off of the main road.
I do alot of off trail cross country hiking looking for unknown mineral outcroppings. Which is allowed by whoever thinks they are in charge of the PUBLIC lands.
Personally I consider it all open since it was set aside to be enjoyed by everyone. It is my land just as much as any other person who goes there.
But anyway could a Bigfoot hide in GPNF, well yep I believe so.
In 1997 Me and my prospecting buddy where walking into a good panning location on the 29 rd. We where the first ones in that year. The roads still had a foot or two of snow in places. The roads where still washed out then from the 1996 floods. About two miles in past the road block at the washout. A big set of tracks came down off of an extremely steep hillside on the uphill side of the road and crossed to the far side of the road and continued along the road for some distance. I assumed it was just an elk or somthing and ignored it. My buddy Frank at some point stopped to take a leak off the edge of the road. At wich point hey got a strange look on his face and said " Hey man , you should come look at this!". So I go over and he points at the track. It is a very large(bigger than my size 10 1/2 boot) barefoot footprint. Looked just like a geniune bigfoot print right outa the movies. After trippin on it for a couple minutes we continued along our way. The tracks went a bit farther up the road and then dropped off over an extremely steep hillside down tward yellowjacket creek.
The amount of difficulty and effort involved in faking a set of tracks like that is really unthinkable. I dont think anyone would bother to take the time to do that there. There are no roads above or below the 29 at that point and it was in 2 feet of snow. Mine and Franks boot prints where the only human tracks in the area.
With that in mind, well I guess that there might realy be some kind of bigfeet out there.
Western washington has vast expanses of forest land north and south of GPNF also
The GPNF is pretty big there are a few areas where it may be as much as 7 or 8 miles between roads and occasionally 4-5 miles between trails.
I used to be out there every weekend and some week days looking for gold. I saw 4 people off the road in a 2 year period. I see a person or two on trails occasionally. But most people are on the roads and not a great deal of people even then.
I dont usually hike a long distance not usually more than 5 or 10 miles sometimes up to 22 miles a day.
Anyhow I rarely , lets say 2% of the time do I ever see anyone off of the main road.
I do alot of off trail cross country hiking looking for unknown mineral outcroppings. Which is allowed by whoever thinks they are in charge of the PUBLIC lands.
Personally I consider it all open since it was set aside to be enjoyed by everyone. It is my land just as much as any other person who goes there.
But anyway could a Bigfoot hide in GPNF, well yep I believe so.
In 1997 Me and my prospecting buddy where walking into a good panning location on the 29 rd. We where the first ones in that year. The roads still had a foot or two of snow in places. The roads where still washed out then from the 1996 floods. About two miles in past the road block at the washout. A big set of tracks came down off of an extremely steep hillside on the uphill side of the road and crossed to the far side of the road and continued along the road for some distance. I assumed it was just an elk or somthing and ignored it. My buddy Frank at some point stopped to take a leak off the edge of the road. At wich point hey got a strange look on his face and said " Hey man , you should come look at this!". So I go over and he points at the track. It is a very large(bigger than my size 10 1/2 boot) barefoot footprint. Looked just like a geniune bigfoot print right outa the movies. After trippin on it for a couple minutes we continued along our way. The tracks went a bit farther up the road and then dropped off over an extremely steep hillside down tward yellowjacket creek.
The amount of difficulty and effort involved in faking a set of tracks like that is really unthinkable. I dont think anyone would bother to take the time to do that there. There are no roads above or below the 29 at that point and it was in 2 feet of snow. Mine and Franks boot prints where the only human tracks in the area.
With that in mind, well I guess that there might realy be some kind of bigfeet out there.
Western washington has vast expanses of forest land north and south of GPNF also
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