This is in the members area of Oregonbigfoot. Just wonder if any of you have listened to it? Its kind of a growling moan. Almost like a bear in great pain. It doesn't sound like any that I've listened to before. There is also some new stuff from Stevens Pass WA.

Georgia eh?

It is pretty vague on the location, only names Wolf Creek.

Isn't Wolf Creek around Blairsville, GA??????

Nope, it's just off the Chattahochee river in Carroll county. Here is a BFRO report:Link. I've been there...recently. The creek itself is getting some subdivisions built right around it but alot of the creek is still relatively wild. I found the BFRO report intriguing, haven't listened to the vocals yet....shh! i'm at work.

Thanks for the link. After reading, it appears this is the sighting that prompted the guy who made the recording on oregonbigfoot to go out and try call blasting and get it on tape. This sighting took place at 3pm in Oct. and the recordings were made after dark 9 to 9:30 in Nov.


Edit for time and date

It prompted me to visit the creek on a few occasions.

I'm confused. V-hunter, are you saying the person involved in the sighting report on the BFRO made the recording, or that someone else was motivated by the report and made the recording in the same area?

BM, I read it as the report prompted the guy to go do the sound blasting.

Mike

Thanks Mike. Not being able to see the information makes deduction a little more difficult.

The sighting took place July of 99.

So again, without being able to see the information, is it posted when this recording was made?

Sorry about that. I was looking at when the report was submitted :doh: and yes it appears there are two separate reports. BFRO report is a class A, Oregonbigfoot report is a class B. Again sorry for the confusion.

Sorry Sam, not wanting confusion. I haven't looked at the member's section of Oregonbigfoot.com.(maybe cause I ain't a member yet); I was thinking V-hunter was referring that the BFRO sighting took place in Oct then the recording was made in Nov. The BFRO report was posted in Oct but the actual sighting took place in July of 99. I take VH's word that the recording was in Nov. I won't listen to the recording till tonight when I get home.

Mike

I e-mailed Autumn and asked if there was a sighting report for this that could be posted on her national sightings database. That way non-oregonbigfoot members could read the report even if they can't listen to the audio.

Good idea V.

Mike

mike2k1


Thanks Mike! We do business with a company in Carrollton, GA which is in Carroll County. I almost went to work for them if not for the 2 hour drive one way. Some of the guys who work there hunt and fish HMMMM. May have to give them a call today!

Autumn e-mailed this morning to say she would get a sighting report on the database. She'll have to write it up since it was just an e-mail from the witness and not an actual filed report.

Thanks V for the update.

Hi All,

Sorry for the delay - I've been out pounding the pavement trying to drum up "real" work so I can afford to fund this expedition. (I do web design, database programming and computer repair and rescue for a living...)

Entering a report into the database takes a bit of time, so I thought I'd just post the story here for all to read. V-hunter was concerned about posting it and "plagarizing" the members' section, which I appreciate (thanks v-hunter ), but I'm going to go ahead and plagarize it myself so ya'll <grin> can get the low-down. I've removed references to the witnesses' last name for this public posting, but the rest is as it is on the members' section.

The recording contains three, very loud, low moans and is available in the members section.

Best,

Autumn Williams
Oregonbigfoot.com

NEW! Vocalization recording from Georgia -
An Oregonbigfoot.com Members Exclusive

About a year ago, I began receiving emails from a man named Bobby M. who lives in Georgia. He's a wonderful, kind Southern gentleman whose warmth of spirit and amusing anecdotes I grew fond of very quickly. He had told me of several ongoing encounters in his area - one of particular interest was a couple who lived near the river who would encounter Bigfoot creatures at their home whenever their infant cried. Recently, Bobby sent me an audio tape and the following accompanying email. It was recorded in November of 2004 at around 9:00 or 9:30 on a cold, cloudy night.

Thank you kindly, Bobby, for allowing me to share this. And I'll take you up on that offer of homemade hushpuppies just as soon as I can! - Autumn

Greetings Ms. Autumn,

Hope you are having a great day. I was thrilled that you called Sunday. I really enjoyed talking to you, even though I did most of the talking. I'm sorry that I ran off at the mouth but I was so happy to just get to speak to you. Autumn, the sound that I caught on tape is the same sound that I, my father, and my late brother-in-law heard the night we went fishing on Wolf creek that we talked about.

It all started the day before at a local coffee shop in a small town close to were I live. I carried my daughter to school about 7:30 that morning and on the way back I stopped by to get me a cup of coffee and while I was sitting there drinking my coffee I heard two guys talking about a animal back behind his place just making a racket and he said that it was a sound that he had never heard before in his life, and that's when I came into the conversation. I asked him where did he live and could I and a friend come and try to get some recordings and he said sure I told him that I do research on unusual animal sounds.

So I called up my buddy and asked him would he be able to go riding around with me tonight. He knew something was up. Blain said, "Bobby, you've done messed around and found one of those Big Foot creatures, didn't you?" and I told him I wasn't sure, I just wanted to check it out. So after I ate supper I went and picked up Blain and we went to the man's house to let him know we were going down to his back field and we would be their for awhile and he said okay.

After we got there about 7:30 or 8:00, I told Blain let's let things quieten off.

Ms. Autumn, I bought a blank cd and my daughter went on the internet and recorded a sound of a baby crying she's good at that kind of stuff, and I've got one of those megaphones that I can plug into my speaker system on my truc.k I have a 2004 Dodge Ram with a cd player and believe me it will give out a sound, so about 8:30 I started giving that thing a blast about every 10 minutes 20 minutes had passed. Blain said, "Listen, I hear something coming from toward the creek," so I listened hard and I could hear something that sounded way off. I blasted it again and let it get quiet and we listened and we heard it good then and Blain said that thing is coming our way and fast, so I blasted it again and that time it sounded like it was about less than a quarter of a mile away but it was so loud it sounded like it was right out side the door.

Blain said, "Bobby I think you have p....... it off. Let's get out of here!" and I told him I wanted to get a good sound of it. He said, "What are you going to do, give it an interview?" and I told him no I just wanted to get a good clear sound the best I could to send to Ms. Autumn. He said, "That's good, I love Ms. Autumn too but I don't want to shake hands with it!"

So I took the recorder and held it outside the window and hoped I got a good sound. Blain was about to have a fit to go. I believe if I had one of those cameras that takes pictures in the dark I believe I could have got a picture of it.

Autumn, the next time I carry Blain with me I going to buy him a bottle of courage. Oh, by the way I don't hang out in pool hall's I didn't want you to think that. All this took place about 3 miles from my house. It was close to Wolf Creek where it seems to travel alot up and down that creek .

Take care hope to hear from you soon.

Your good friend,

Bobby

Incidentally, if you compare the Georgia recording and number six of the Stevens Pass recordings (the one that contains the long, siren-like yells), I find that they are fairly similar... not necessarily in pitch, but in the length of the call and the fact that both recordings begin low, raise to a held pitch, then taper off to a lower pitch.

FWIW, here's an analysis of the pitches heard in these recordings (I'm a musician and used my piano to discern the pitches):

Steven Pass, recording # 6 contains several long, siren-like wails. The sounds begin on one pitch, slide up about two full steps and hold there for between 7-12 seconds, then descend approximately two full steps and trail off. The pitches held in these wails are as follows: ##### above middle C, middle C, ##### above middle C, ##### above middle C, F above middle C, E above middle C, F# above middle C, F below middle C and sliding to middle C, middle C, D above middle C.

The three moans in the GEORGIA recordings are much lower, the pitch-plateau reaching only an E below middle C (a full five steps LOWER than the lowest pitch in the Stevens Pass recordings).

There is one other type of vocalization in the Stevens Pass collection which resembles a chimp screaming frantically (whoo-AH! Whoo-AH! Whoo-AH!). This sound is particularly interesting to me because I heard an identical set of screams VERY close to my truck one night while camping in N. CA. It was so loud, it was equivalent to someone screaming in your face at the top of their lungs through a bullhorn. (Unfortunately, I was asleep when the screams began and did not get them recorded. ) I had never heard a RECORDING of this particular vocalization, however, until I heard the Stevens Pass recordings.

Autumn

Autumn,, Has anyone ever tried taking sounds like this to the Ape exibits at a zoo and see the responce,, just wondering????

Crew Chief

Good thought, CC. That's the same sort of "supporting web" of cohering evidence that we should try to build, to "harden" the evidence a bit.

It's possible you might get a reaction; it's also possible you wouldn't. I'm not sure what it would prove.
If you played orangutan sounds in a gorilla compound would you get a reaction? Possibly, but I doubt that it would prove that the gorilla recognized the orangutan sounds as being from a primate. It’s very possible you would get the same reaction by playing barred owl sounds. I don’t know how you would identify the type of reaction you observed and instead of “hardening” the evidence you just might be muddying the waters by assuming you knew what the reaction meant.
I also think you might have a problem with the handlers if you showed up and played some sounds that could upset their charges.

Blackdog,, I'd be looking for fear or submision in a responce, thats all. I also agree with the handler thing, this might have to be run through the front office!!

Crew Chief

The animal sound I heard in northwest GA, years ago, sounded like a large animal expelling air through its nostrils. I heard the animal maybe 3 times and once at a closer range while deer hunting and this time I heard a low growl. It sounded much too loud to be a deer snorting.

The last time I heard the noise was on Christmas day 1993 and it had been years since the last time I heard it. This was the year we had the 2-foot blizzard in March.

Thanks to Miss. Williams for taking the time to post the report and to the reporter for allowing her to do so!

I've been surprised how loud deer can be, even when expelling air through their nostrils. I've been very surprised at the unusual, and loud, sounds that they can make. I'm not trying to argue, just telling you my observations.

If a deer snorts real close,,, It'll scare the day lights out of ya!!!

Crew Chief

PS Don't know if a bear can do this but I'm sure it would be even louder.

Yes I agree, but this to me sounded different than any deer I have heard. I can not say I can completely rule out a deer with a different type sound (nasial cavity problem or etc.). The part that convinced me to pertty much rule out a deer is when I heard the noise and a growling sound during my experience while hunting.

I tried to rule out anything it could have been and currently my mind list it as unknown. A bear in this area is rare, but not impossible.

The noise other than the hunting incident was at a great distance.

I'm not saying it was a BF, just would like to know what it was.

PEPPERSFARM,, I'm with ya on the noise!! I've had some strange stuff happen through the years for sure while deer hunting. Me and my son was hunting at our deer camp in Gibson years ago, I put a nice 6 pionter down on the ground. My son came over to me when he heard the shot and knew I had one down. Now we both drag it up out of a hollow to field dress it and all of a sudden something starts to circle us just out of sight. It went around us twice and it kind of spooked us both for a while,, too this day I ain't got a clue what that was circling us!!!

Crew Chief

PS I also watched a little knot head buck following his mama just before the rut. I guess she just run him off for the rut, you should have heard the noises that little sucker was making,, made my skin crawl!!!!!!

My husband saw and heard a deer scream this past hunting season that was so loud he said he almost fell out of the deer stand it startled him so much. He said it was a very large doe and he saw her two days in row. He said she didn't look like a whitetail because she looked to weigh about 250 pounds and had bigger ears. There has been some talk that muledeer have been introduced to this area. At any rate he said she screamed several times while running away after she'd seen him two days in a row. He said if he hadn't seen her doing the screaming he'd have never thought that kind of sound could come from a deer.

Edited: Why can't I ever get a post right the first danged time...

Oh...P.S. Does anyone know of a recorded mule deer scream that I could have my husband listen to? I've had him listen to all the alleged sasquatch vocals that I can find and he said it didn't sound anything like any of those, though he said it was so loud he was amazed that volume could come from a deer.

In this area there have been many backyard get rich quick operations that began raising exotic animals. When some of the markets broke on the exotics and the operators found themselves with expensive feed bills. The operators released the animals into the wild; some of the animals did survived. I have seen ostriches, and have heard of lamas and a buffalo seen in this area. Some were raising
hair sheep, Goats, fallow deer, and who knows! Some of these animals would make sounds in the wild that we are not familiar with.

Birds migrate through different areas and some of the cranes and other birds make strange vocals. Owls can let go with some unnerving screams.

Some of the vocals we can not identify maybe associated with an out of place animals or maybe, just maybe, some belong to the real BF.

Try this T.

http://www.ecologychannel.com/sounds/deer.wav

http://www.geocities.com/wcraig/doedis3.wav

True. I've heard crane, mockingbirds, and even doves make some pretty strange sounds. The most wild sound I've heard was one morning sitting on a deer stand just before light in Ben Hill county Ga. I was hunting in an area that was pretty open and sandy, and we had a full moon so you could see really, really good. I saw a small dark shape cross from my right across the sand bed. I took a few moments to realize it was an oppossum. Out of no where I heard a swoop and wham! An owl had come down and attacked the possum. The two animals were carrying on, when the woods erupted in a clamor of owls. It seemed like they were everywhere. The one that attacked the poor possum managed to kill it by decapitating it. It tried to move the body but couldn't so it left with the head. The chorus of owls reved up in a blood frenzy was wild.

When I was searching for the mule deer sounds I found this one....

http://www.mrjiggs.com/docs/sounds/4.wav

It's a mule, like the plow pulling kind. If I heard this anywhere near me, I'd run the other way!

Good Lord Jay...sounds like it was flatulent right there at the end of all that braying! LMAO!!!

That first one sounded like the normal bleat call. That second one might be the ticket. I didn't hear it so I'll have Gary listen to it and see what he thinks. He said it made the hair on the back of his neck stand up it was so loud and strange.

When I said mulies had been released here, I meant by the Game and fish people, not by individuals, though I do know there are people around who are raising exotics like axis deer and antelope, ostriches, emus, and others, and I'm sure some of those escape from time to time. We mostly have the owls that sound like they are saying "who cooks for you". Are those Bard owls?

Yup T, that would be the barred owl.

http://www.frogs-ny.org/Multimedia/barredOwl.wav



These make me think some people might have mistaken an owl for the big guy.


http://nhest.org/brdowl.wav

http://owling.com/barred3a.wav



Ewwww, edit to add this one...great grey owl...sorta sounds like a monkey.

http://owling.com/ggo6a.wav

That first one sounds just like every Barred owl I've heard around here.

That 3a wav doesn't sound like any Bard owl I've ever heard. Sure has a primate ring to it though.

That last one doesn't sound like an owl either, least ways none that I've ever heard. Sounds like a mimic of an owl kinda.

On a recent outing a group of us heard an owl calling in the distance. At first we did not believe it was an owl because the sense of it was "bigger" and louder. But when we got close it was clearly an owl. The area we heard it seemed to be perfectly situated for the reverberation to give the owl depth and size. Unfortunately, it was too low to be recorded, at least on my wimpy machine.

The strange thing is we could only hear it that way, with the added depth and size, at one spot. From there to right up next to the owl we couldn't hear it at all.

That 3a wav sounds like it's actually 2 barred owls calling at the same time. We hear them at our camp on the river all the time. I start calling back to them and here they come!

Jaylee, Donna had one of our baby beagle pups in the backyard for a potty break the other night when out of nowhere here comes this owl. It went right over her head and headed for the pup which was on a 25ft leash. I guess it didn't see her but it was bent on the pup for sure, she screamed for me and that made the owl book, thank god!! We'd have too rename the pup Talon if the owl made the attack!!!

Crew Chief

My best freind was sitting in a climbing stand one evening and had one take his hat off his head. His cap had a hole in the top off it. Thank God he didn't have it on snug. :blacknblue:

Ouch Mike. That could have been really bad.

CC, my Dad lost his favorite little squirrel dog to a big old owl one time. He heard the dog squeal and saw them just as they flew out of the yard.

Man, that's terrible about the poor puppy. My friend shot the owl about a week later. He was in the same stand. Saw the owl, said the owl was looking at him funny, and he wasn't taking any chances, put the scope on it and one .243 round later, the owl was history.






*[I]i didn't want to tell the rest of the story earlier cause i didn't want it to seem like i condone shooting an animal for other than food or defense, but after i thought about it...it was kind of defensive.*

Hey Mike,, I hope Ga DNR ain't on here!!! I don't think we're suppose to shoot owls!!! I'd shoot the one that tried to get my pup in a heart beat though, we hear him around the house at night, so it ain't over for me!!!

Crew Chief

It's been severeal years, and I won't rat out my buddy, plus.....lets see em find a body. Seriously, it was a long time ago. I had to be around 19 or 20 when that happened cause we we're hunting around Lake Walter F George, Georgetown.

Sounds like it is in a grain silo. Try these two Jaylee.
Red deer
Fallow deer


edit to fix 2nd link.

Feet, don't fail me now!

Might be interesting to use for call blasting.