I thought a thread on this would be better than hijacking another thread.

So anyway, heres a pic on foot comparisons or known apes.

The Latrobe track, shows the halix (big toe) further back on the foot than a chimp, so i find it hard to think its a known ape.

An alleged NAPE track cast

Pic of the Waynesboro Penn Gates Brothers trackway

That looks more like a genetic deformity than a species type.

Are there more photos of this trackway or is this the only print found?

Cut4sign

Cut, there were over 300 tracks in the lake bed, over 1000 feet of trackway. Thats the best pic i have. I lost alot when my PC crashed.
Theres a poor video of the trackway though, but it lacks detail....

heres a pic which shows (what i think anyway) skin folds on the bottom of the foot. Some argue that its a tennis shoe, but so far, no one has been able to produce a shoe that has this tread pattern. I also have a larger image, if you want it.

Those are some pretty fake-looking prints and casts above.
Ape prints are usually associated with pretty obvious knuckle prints. The grasping hallux (great toe) of an ape's foot is located much further back than the first cast (or Coleman's fake "Nape" print) show.

I completely agree.

They look almost reptilian...

or a poorly faked chupacabra track or something...

I've heard a few times that there have been feral chimps in FL for years; descendants of ones that escaped when they were filiming the old "Tarzan" flicks down there and from Bush Gardens. I'd guess that tracks that apelike would be from them.

-Sarge

Well, i saw the Waynesboro trackway, and i'm convinced it was a living foot that made it. The toes moved around a little, so i dont think it was a plywood cutout, or a shoe with a rubber glove on it. The toe impressions sunk deep into the mud, with some tracks showing a toenail imprint.
There were no signs of knuckles, hands, poles, or any other tracks other than the discoverers from the previous day.

Some animal made them, really weird feet, but an animal nontheless.

The first pic (alleged NAPE cast) really looks strange, the halux is way out of line for the bone structure (imho) to be of any function. The Latrobe cast is different, i dont know what to make of that one

Where/When was this?

Was there any evidence of "knuckle-dragging"?

Who investigated this?

One of the investigators was Ron of the BFRO. He had pardners with him that day, though. I don't recall who they were. I have info on cd and I can't access my cd drive at this time (call the fix-it guy!)

I seem to recall it was about a couple years ago. A real cold day...difficult to cast.

Would RobUstes rather share better details than my own spotty memory? I can't even remember where the heck Waynesboro is?

Sorry, RobUstes, if I'm being a butt-insky. You shared the pic though.

The reason I ask is because I never heard a thing about this.

I didn't remember it either. Here are two useful links:

http://members.tripod.com/sasquatchsearch/waynesboro.htm

http://www.n2.net/prey/bigfoot/articles/waynesboro4.htm

Your right, real cold !! Freak snow storm (unpredicted by the "experts") blew thru, soil was partially frozen, water was below freezing, which didnt help the strength of the plaster material.

Huntser, it was just outside of Wayneboro, Penn, west of Gettysburg, South Mtn area.

No knuckle prints, just these strange footprints. I understand simular prints have been seen in Alabama and Minnesota. There is a strange depression in the heel area in both the W-boro and Minn prints, could be a clallous area or a hard spot on the foot (??) I have no clue.

*pic of the snow storm, Steve Gates & Paul Scott)

Heres a pic, showing how deep the toes sunk thru the frozen mud, into wet mud.

[edit] Paul told me a couple days later, when a DNR (Dept Natural Resources) man was walking around looking at the trackway, he sunk into the mud up to his azz !! and had to be pulled out by two other guys !!

That is simply amazing.

With all the reports recently about tigers and chimps in California, I suppose anything is possible. And I'll bet everything has escaped from human bondage in Florida.

But the tracks don't appear to fit a known creature, do they?

I know of a few different places around Florida with different apes/monkeys.
For example down by Big pine key in the keys is a place called Monkey island. They turned a bunch of then loose there to study years ago I am told. It is a easy island to find (can only get to it by boat) as it has no leaves or anything on the trees.

Quite honestly. That looks like a gator track.

Monkey island

Monkey Island 2 Central Florida

Halfway down the page.


Wild Rhesus in Florida

Other related articles on animal problems in Florida.

Abandoned Exotics

Invasive species

And some of those are just whats known so far. You can google links all day pertaining to releases,legalities and possiblities of exotics on the prowl here and elsewhere. Everything from species of angler fish to baboons and big cats if you so choose.

looks gator ta me

It does look like it could be a gator foot, but wouldn't a gator leave at least a tail dragging mark?

Notice the area I have marked in red. You can clearly see three bones within the red box. This is allegedly the heel of a foot. Now look at the area marked in blue. You can clearly see at least three toes, maybe more. I don't think it was an alligator. In fact, I don't think the print is real, but maybe I'm wrong.

Wrong pic hoosierhunter.Referring to the one on the previous page.Gators have four toes. Not always.Only usually the largest gators leave drag markd from the tail.. anything smaller than an 8 foot , 300 pounder it just as likely to "lift" while travelling, much like most smaller lizards do. Drag marks and slides are more likely found on a bank ,or near the shore where the gator doesn't walk far overland, but just uses a push off method to propel themselves into the water.

Hoosier, remember, a track is a negative image of the foot. Just like a photo negative. If something in a track is sticking up, that means its a depression in the foot. The lines you point out as being bones, are skin folds IMHO.

These are NOT alligator prints. Whatever made them, did so over 300 times on a frozen mud flat, with no sign of support objects (poles, hands) made a flexible foot (toes moved around slightly) and just waited for someone to "discover" them.

My feeling, after looking at the whole trackway, is that a living foot made those tracks, not a hoax, perhaps not anything related to sasquatch, and certainly not human-made.

This trackway crossed the stream twice.
No drag marks to indicate a low clearence animal. It simply stepped over the stream, twice. Stream bank heigth at one point of crossing was approx two feet from water to top of bank.

Its and addias shoe like the one Im wearing right now.

kinda like this one
http://www.zappos.com/images/w/wAdidas32/827-31892-p.jpg

at least the center part outlined above.