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Oct 6 2004, 01:50 AM
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Stat Man of IL Group: BFF Moderators Posts: 3,867 Joined: 28-January 04 From: Illinois-Wisconsin Stateline Area Member No.: 700 |
Boy, I sure bit off a big chunk this time. I decided to study the BFRO reports of bigfoot, for all 50 (actually 49 no reports from Hawaii) States to search for similarities as well as prove or disprove theories I've been thinking about. This could take YEARS! It almost seems as the more I read, the more questions I'm coming up with rather than answers. I'm focusing mainly on actual sightings of bigfoots, not sounds, not footprints or other evidence.
Some things I have noticed, that may be of interest, are as follows.... The two things that seem to offer the best chance of seeing a bigfoot is either driving a motor vehicle of some type, or being home. The thing that offers the worst chance of seeing a bigfoot, is to be actively looking for him. There are a large number of sightings in the vicintiy of forests primarily made up of Pines, Cedars, or Firs and swampy areas all of which produce an odor. There is a sighting that mentions ongoing activity in an area with "Dog Fennel". I had no idea what "Dog Fennel" was, so I looked it up online and found out it is a weed that produces a FOUL ODOR. Could his odor, that is so often reported, be related more to his habitat and possibly diet, rather than a physical attribute? There is also a common mention of railroad tracks, either very near the sighting, or of him or actually being sighted on the tracks. Maybe using these as a landmark in his travels? By far the most common time to have a sighting is between 9pm and 3am, accounting for roughly 70% of the sightings I've looked at so far. Strong lean towards him being primarily nocturnal. More definitive results will be made available as I get further into these reports... This post has been edited by moregon: Oct 6 2004, 01:51 AM |
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Oct 6 2004, 02:28 AM
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Gone Fishing Group: BFF Administrators Posts: 8,249 Joined: 1-August 02 From: GB Member No.: 58 |
Good work - any chance we could see some stats ?
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Oct 6 2004, 08:00 AM
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Two stars - Mountain Devil Group: Members Posts: 2,418 Joined: 16-July 04 From: SE Texas Member No.: 1,231 |
This is VERY interesting, Moregon. I will be looking forward to any other info you gleam from the reports.
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Oct 6 2004, 09:58 AM
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Official Scribe of the BFF Group: BFF Administrators Posts: 6,217 Joined: 24-February 03 From: Washington Member No.: 181 |
I find this to be very interesting.
Think it belongs under Independent Research & Data Analysis... so I will move it! |
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Oct 6 2004, 01:02 PM
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Our Humble Statistician Group: Members Posts: 1,319 Joined: 1-December 03 From: United States Member No.: 477 |
QUOTE(moregon @ Oct 6 2004, 02:50 AM) The two things that seem to offer the best chance of seeing a bigfoot is either driving a motor vehicle of some type, or being home. The thing that offers the worst chance of seeing a bigfoot, is to be actively looking for him. Baseline. At first glance, if you see that there are 200 reports of people seeing a sasquatch from a car, and only 4 from people who are actively looking in the woods, you'd say, "Looks like Sas loves the interstate. Let's go for a ride!" But, that's not an apples-to-apples comparison. It may be that the odds of seeing a bigfoot when actively looking for it are 1 in 25 (just throwing out numbers here). But, in any given year, only a hundred people are actively looking, and they are only searching for limited period of time. Who has the opportunity to spend weeks at a time in the woods? So, you get 4 sightings in a year from people who actively search. Alternatively, it may be that the odds of seeing a bigfoot while driving are 1 in 10,000,000. Those are much worse odds. But, say 100 million people are in cars each year, and they spend much more time in cars driving, even around forested or swampy areas, than people spend searching (say 20 times as much). 20 x 100,000,000 = 2,000,000,000 2,000,000,000 / 10,000,000 = 200 sightings In other words, if you spin the roulette wheel two billion times betting on the same number each time, you're going to win a lot more than someone who is playing a couple of rounds of blackjack. Of course, you'll lose a lot more too... a whole lot more. That's why most people in a car never see a sasquatch. |
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Oct 6 2004, 02:44 PM
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Five toes - Saskets Group: Members Posts: 711 Joined: 9-November 03 Member No.: 394 |
Ah, the voice of reason.
That's why we keep you around...Well, that and your cool avatar. |
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Oct 6 2004, 04:32 PM
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Resident Wizard Group: BFF Moderators Posts: 3,170 Joined: 8-July 04 From: Just left of the Ocmulgee river Georgia Member No.: 1,204 |
Great job Moregon! Absolutley interesting stuff. I guess I'll rename the hours between 9pm and 3am the Bigfooting hours. It is something to keeep in mind during the field.
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Oct 6 2004, 07:42 PM
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Two toes - Windigo Group: Members Posts: 33 Joined: 29-August 04 Member No.: 1,379 |
QUOTE(moregon @ Oct 6 2004, 01:50 AM) . Could his odor, that is so often reported, be related more to his habitat and possibly diet, rather than a physical attribute? I was thinking the same thing! I went looking for Skunk Apes about two weeks ago west of Tallahassee. I noticed that a road contruction crew was cleaning out a bottom area that was so stagnant that the plant material was starting to form coal. The smell was a musky,urine, and garbage smell often associated with a bigfoot encounter. However, bigfoot may smell like that for real. I am thinking a large primate house just after feeding time..... :yuck: |
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Oct 8 2004, 06:02 PM
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Stat Man of IL Group: BFF Moderators Posts: 3,867 Joined: 28-January 04 From: Illinois-Wisconsin Stateline Area Member No.: 700 |
I've just finished puting my observations for the first 100 reports I've gone through into a database, I'll post the results sometime tomorrow for these. Time to head out for work right now.
Only 720+ more reports to review!! YIKES! This post has been edited by moregon: Oct 8 2004, 06:03 PM |
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Oct 9 2004, 10:35 AM
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Stat Man of IL Group: BFF Moderators Posts: 3,867 Joined: 28-January 04 From: Illinois-Wisconsin Stateline Area Member No.: 700 |
Before posting this keep in mind a few facts, such as Judaculla pointed out, there are a lot more people that drive, than do most of the other activities covered so you should get more reports from people in cars. At the same time, with as many reports as there are that do come from drivers, it shows that Bigfoot may not be as wary about roads and cars as some may think. The accuracy of the results are directly proportional to the validity of the reports. So if you have a big group of people get together and all say BF wears a green beanie, that's what it will show. Here are the results, and I'm sure the ratios will change as I move through the reports. Not every report had ever detail, so totals may not add up to 100.
Season When Sighting Occured Summer 35 Fall 31 Winter 15 Spring 13 Daytime Sightings 53 Nightime Sightings 41 Weather Clear 30 Cloudy 3 Partly Cloudy 3 Raining 2 Snowing 1 What Activity Observer Was Engaged In Driving 37 Walking/Hiking 15 At Home 11 Hunting 9 Fishing 6 Horseback Riding 3 Camping 3 Looking for Bigfoot 1 What Bigfoot Was Doing When Observed Walking 42 Standing 18 Running 8 Crossing Road 8 Observing Observer 5 Bent Over 2 Digging 2 Drinking 2 Crossing River 1 Eating Berries 1 How Bigfoot Reacted To Observers Presence No Visible Reaction 31 Walked Away 19 Ran Away 13 Watched Observer 6 Agressively 5 Estimated Heights 0-4' 1 4'1"-5' 2 5'1"-6' 5 6'1"-7' 19 7'1"-8' 9 8'1"-9' 22 9'1"-10' 2 10'+ 1 Reported Coloring Brown Variations 19 Reddish Variations 15 Black 7 Just Said Dark 6 Uncertain Black or Brown 6 White Variations 5 Tan Variations 2 Reported Eye Coloring Red 3 Brown 1 Red Brown 1 Glowing 1 Yellow 1 Blue 1 How Many Seen During Sighting One 97 Two 3 More 0 Reports That Mentioned Odor Or Smell 13 How Close Did Bigfoot Come Under 5' 2 5-20' 6 21-50' 9 51-100' 5 101-250' 3 251-400' 4 401-600' 4 Over 600' 2 Water in Vicinity Creeks 21 Marsh/Swamp 13 River 13 Lake 3 Pond 3 Canals 2 Berries Mentioned 4 Tree Types Generic TREES 31 Conifers 25 Mixed 7 Hardwoods 9 Railroad Tracks Mentioned 4 Reported Running On All Fours 3 Observed Teeth, no apparent Canine Teeth 1 This post has been edited by moregon: Oct 9 2004, 10:41 AM |
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Oct 9 2004, 07:58 PM
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One star - Yowie Group: Members Posts: 1,009 Joined: 15-March 04 From: San Antonio, Texas (N 29° 31.538 W 098° 26.020) Member No.: 869 |
Wow..this is some great work and Im a sucker for stats.
Makes me want to direct my efforts on Texas sightings and see what I come up with in particular. Keep us posted on all this. Any chance of you posting some pie charts or other visual aids to go with the numbers? |
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Oct 9 2004, 10:52 PM
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Two stars - Mountain Devil Group: Members Posts: 1,761 Joined: 24-June 04 From: Where the rent's too high Member No.: 1,137 |
Well you know what Travis says, "The creeks, he always travels the creeks..."
I'm savin' up for gas money & spotlights & nodose! |
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Oct 9 2004, 11:20 PM
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<< This Space For Rent >> Group: Members Posts: 2,923 Joined: 26-December 02 From: South Florida Member No.: 121 |
QUOTE(moregon @ Oct 9 2004, 10:35 AM) Eating Berries 1 Awesome work. But I think I need glasses. At first glance I thought it said Eating Bunnies 1 Definitely had to do a double take on that one. This post has been edited by SkunkHunter: Oct 9 2004, 11:21 PM |
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Oct 10 2004, 05:10 PM
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Stat Man of IL Group: BFF Moderators Posts: 3,867 Joined: 28-January 04 From: Illinois-Wisconsin Stateline Area Member No.: 700 |
200 Report Update
These are running totals, so previous counts included. Season When Sighting Occured Summer 75 Fall 58 Winter 29 Spring 28 Daytime Sightings 112 Nightime Sightings 78 Weather Clear 59 Cloudy 7 Partly Cloudy 5 Snowing 5 Raining 2 What Activing Observer Was Engaged In Driving 65 Walking/Hiking 39 Hunting 19 Camping 19 At Home 17 Fishing 8 Horseback Riding 7 Working 6 Rock Climbing 2 Looking for Bigfoot 1 What Bigfoot Was Doing When Observed Walking 72 Standing 35 Observing Observer 22 Running 15 Crossing Road 13 Bent Over 6 Drinking 4 Digging 3 Chasing Other Animals 3 (Sheep, Deer, Elk) Crossing River 1 Eating Berries 1 Sitting in tree 1 Fishing 1 How Bigfoot Reacted To Observer No Visible Reaction 60 Walked Away 39 Ran Away 33 Watched Observer 6 Agressively 6 Estimated Heights 0-4' 2 4'1"-5' 2 5'1"-6' 15 6'1"-7' 19 7'1"-8' 31 8'1"-9' 33 9'1"-10' 3 10'+ 3 Reported Coloring Brown Variations 40 Black 23 Reddish Variations 21 Just Said Dark 15 White Variations 11 Uncertain Black or Brown 6 Tan Variations 4 Reported Eye Color Glowing 4 Yellow 4 Red 3 Brown 2 Red-Brown 2 Blue 1 Dark 1 How Many Seen During Sighting One 184 Two 8 Three 2 Five 1 (Believed to be family unit, parents and kids) Reports That Mention Smell 13 How Close Did Bigfoot Come Under 5' 3 5-20' 24 21-50' 14 51-100' 14 101-250' 15 251-400' 7 401-600' 7 Over 600' 4 Water in Vicinity Creeks 35 River 22 Marsh/Swamp 15 Pond 9 Lake 8 Canals 4 Berries Mentioned 4 Tree Types Conifers 57 Generic TREES 43 Hardwoods 23 Mixed 19 Fruit 2 Interesting Mentions Running On All Fours 6 Railroad Tracks 4 Observed Teeth, No Canines 1 Saw Hitting Rocks Together 1 Saw Carrying Dead Deer 1 Paced Running Bigfoot With Car Apprx. 45 MPH Scat 18" x 3" Majority close enough to describe eye color, also notice no whites visible. This post has been edited by moregon: Oct 10 2004, 05:13 PM |
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Oct 11 2004, 05:26 PM
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Stat Man of IL Group: BFF Moderators Posts: 3,867 Joined: 28-January 04 From: Illinois-Wisconsin Stateline Area Member No.: 700 |
300 REPORT UPDATE
These are running totals, so previous counts included. Season When Sighting Occured Summer 111 Fall 85 Winter 49 Spring 38 Daytime Sightings 159 Nightime Sightings 128 Weather Clear 74 Cloudy 11 Partly Cloudy 6 Snowing 5 Raining 3 What Activing Observer Was Engaged In Driving 85 Walking/Hiking 54 At Home 40 Hunting 32 Camping 25 Working 9 Fishing 8 Horseback Riding 7 Parking 4 Playing 3 Rock Climbing 2 Looking for Bigfoot 1 What Bigfoot Was Doing When Observed Walking 87 Standing 51 Observing Observer 32 Running 28 Crossing Road 25 Bent Over 11 Drinking 7 Digging 3 Chasing Other Animals 3 (Sheep, Deer, Elk) Making Noises 2 Shaking Trees 2 Crossing River 2 Sitting in tree 2 Eating Berries 1 Fishing 1 Hitting Log With Rock 1 Grabbing Leaves 1 Picking Up Roadkill 1 Playing In Water 1 How Bigfoot Reacted To Observer No Visible Reaction 123 Walked Away 52 Ran Away 42 Agressively 10 Watched Observer 7 Estimated Heights 0-4' 5 4'1"-5' 3 5'1"-6' 20 6'1"-7' 39 7'1"-8' 50 8'1"-9' 38 9'1"-10' 7 10'+ 5 Reported Coloring Brown Variations 59 Black 39 Reddish Variations 30 Just Said Dark 25 White Variations 21 Uncertain Black or Brown 7 Tan Variations 5 Reported Eye Color Red 8 Yellow 5 Glowing 4 Red-Brown 2 Green 2 Brown 1 Blue 1 Dark 1 How Many Seen During Sighting One 275 Two 11 Three 3 Five 1 (Believed to be family unit, parents and kids) Reports That Mention Smell 26 How Close Did Bigfoot Come Under 5' 1 5-20' 36 21-50' 24 51-100' 27 101-250' 26 251-400' 10 401-600' 11 Over 600' 9 Water in Vicinity Creeks 53 Marsh/Swamp 30 River 28 Pond 15 Lake 12 Canals 5 Berries Mentioned 4 Tree Types Generic TREES 82 Conifers 76 Mixed 30 Hardwoods 29 Fruit 2 Interesting Mentions Running On All Fours 6 Railroad Tracks 11 Observed Teeth, No Canines 1 Saw Hitting Rocks Together 1 Saw Carrying Dead Deer 1 Paced Running Bigfoot With Car Apprx. 45 MPH Scat 18" x 3" Hitting Log With Rock 1 Observer Going Bathroom Outdoors 6 Carrying Infant 2 Missing Livestock 2 Visible Hump On Back 1 Appeared to be wearing leaves in hair as additional camoflage 2 Majority close enough to describe eye color, also notice no whites visible. This post has been edited by moregon: Oct 11 2004, 05:29 PM |
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Oct 12 2004, 02:20 AM
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Stat Man of IL Group: BFF Moderators Posts: 3,867 Joined: 28-January 04 From: Illinois-Wisconsin Stateline Area Member No.: 700 |
400 REPORT UPDATE
These are running totals, so previous counts included. Season When Sighting Occured Summer 158 Fall 113 Winter 56 Spring 42 Daytime Sightings 216 Nightime Sightings 162 Weather Clear 77 Cloudy 11 Partly Cloudy 6 Snowing 7 Raining 4 What Activing Observer Was Engaged In Driving 118 Walking/Hiking 71 At Home 53 Hunting 40 Camping 32 Working 12 Fishing 13 Horseback Riding 10 Parking 4 Playing 8 Rock Climbing 2 Looking for Bigfoot 2 Swimming 1 What Bigfoot Was Doing When Observed Walking 111 Standing 67 Observing Observer 49 Running 40 Crossing Road 33 Bent Over/Kneeling 22 Drinking 9 Chasing Other Animals 4 (Sheep, Deer, Elk, Hogs) Digging 3 Playing In Water 3 Making Noises 2 Shaking Trees 2 Crossing River 2 Sitting in tree 2 Eating Leaves 2 Eating Berries 1 Fishing 1 Hitting Log With Rock 1 Grabbing Leaves 1 Picking Up Roadkill 1 Jumped Out Of Tree 1 How Bigfoot Reacted To Observer No Visible Reaction 169 Walked Away 57 Ran Away 60 Agressively 13 Watched Observer 8 Estimated Heights 0-4' 7 4'1"-5' 3 5'1"-6' 29 6'1"-7' 63 7'1"-8' 62 8'1"-9' 43 9'1"-10' 8 10'+ 6 Reported Coloring Brown Variations 83 Black 48 Reddish Variations 41 Just Said Dark 33 White Variations 30 Uncertain Black or Brown 10 Tan Variations 8 Reported Eye Color Red 11 Yellow 6 Glowing 5 Green 3 Red-Brown 2 Brown 2 Blue 1 Dark 1 Black 1 How Many Seen During Sighting One 365 Two 16 Three 3 Five 2 (Believed to be family unit, parents and kids) Reports That Mention Smell 35 How Close Did Bigfoot Come Under 5' 2 5-20' 51 21-50' 73 51-100' 38 101-250' 33 251-400' 12 401-600' 14 Over 600' 10 Water in Vicinity Creeks 76 Marsh/Swamp 48 River 35 Pond 16 Lake 16 Canals 7 Ocean 1 Berries Mentioned 7 Tree Types Generic TREES 127 Conifers 90 Mixed 42 Hardwoods 34 Fruit 2 Interesting Mentions Railroad Tracks 15 Observer Going Bathroom Outdoors 8 Running On All Fours 6 Carrying Infant 2 Missing Livestock 2 Appeared to be wearing leaves in hair as additional camoflage 2 Observed Teeth, No Canines 1 Saw Hitting Rocks Together 1 Saw Carrying Dead Deer 1 Paced Running Bigfoot With Car Apprx. 45 MPH 1 Scat 18" x 3" 1 Hitting Log With Rock 1 Visible Hump On Back 1 Bigfoot Accompanied By A Dog 1 Seen Stacking Rocks 1 Majority close enough to describe eye color, also notice no whites visible. |
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Oct 12 2004, 09:51 AM
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Stat Man of IL Group: BFF Moderators Posts: 3,867 Joined: 28-January 04 From: Illinois-Wisconsin Stateline Area Member No.: 700 |
500 Report Update
These are running totals, so previous counts included. Season When Sighting Occured Summer 202 Fall 143 Winter 66 Spring 54 Daytime Sightings 265 Nightime Sightings 208 Weather Clear 98 Cloudy 14 Partly Cloudy 7 Snowing 8 Raining 5 What Activing Observer Was Engaged In Driving 154 Walking/Hiking 89 At Home 73 Hunting 48 Camping 38 Working 14 Fishing 13 Horseback Riding 10 Parking 4 Playing 9 Boating/Canoeing 4 Rock Climbing 2 Looking for Bigfoot 2 Swimming 1 What Bigfoot Was Doing When Observed Walking 130 Standing 85 Observing Observer 59 Running 56 Crossing Road 41 Bent Over/Kneeling 30 Drinking 10 Chasing Other Animals 4 (Sheep, Deer, Elk, Hogs) Digging 3 Playing In Water 3 Making Noises 3 Shaking Trees 2 Crossing River 3 Sitting in tree 3 Eating Leaves 3 Eating Berries 1 Fishing 1 Hitting Log With Rock 1 Grabbing Leaves 1 Picking Up Roadkill 1 Jumped Out Of Tree 1 How Bigfoot Reacted To Observer No Visible Reaction 192 Walked Away 66 Ran Away 65 Agressively 20 Watched Observer 11 Estimated Heights 0-4' 8 4'1"-5' 4 5'1"-6' 37 6'1"-7' 95 7'1"-8' 71 8'1"-9' 58 9'1"-10' 8 10'+ 8 Reported Coloring Brown Variations 111 Black 61 Reddish Variations 49 Just Said Dark 48 White Variations 42 Uncertain Black or Brown 11 Tan Variations 11 Reported Eye Color Red 11 Yellow 8 Glowing 7 Green 4 Red-Brown 2 Brown 2 Blue 2 Dark 3 Black 3 Pink 1 How Many Seen During Sighting One 457 Two 21 Three 3 Five 2 (Believed to be family unit, parents and kids) Reports That Mention Smell 55 How Close Did Bigfoot Come Under 5' 3 5-20' 74 21-50' 84 51-100' 45 101-250' 40 251-400' 15 401-600' 14 Over 600' 11 Water in Vicinity Creeks 111 Marsh/Swamp 56 River 36 Pond 20 Lake 21 Canals 7 Ocean 1 Berries Mentioned 7 Tree Types Generic TREES 187 Conifers 101 Mixed 55 Hardwoods 39 Fruit 2 Interesting Mentions Railroad Tracks 23 Observer Going Bathroom Outdoors 9 Running On All Fours 7 Carrying Infant 2 Missing Livestock 2 Appeared to be wearing leaves in hair as additional camoflage 2 Observed Teeth, No Canines 1 Saw Hitting Rocks Together 1 Saw Carrying Dead Deer 1 Paced Running Bigfoot With Car Apprx. 45 MPH 1 Scat 18" x 3" 1 Hitting Log With Rock 1 Visible Hump On Back 1 Bigfoot Accompanied By A Dog 1 Seen Stacking Rocks 1 Had Long Tail 1 Many close enough to describe eye color, also notice no whites visible. |
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Oct 12 2004, 03:27 PM
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Stat Man of IL Group: BFF Moderators Posts: 3,867 Joined: 28-January 04 From: Illinois-Wisconsin Stateline Area Member No.: 700 |
600 Report Update
These are running totals, so previous counts included. Season When Sighting Occured Summer 241 Fall 174 Winter 78 Spring 67 Daytime Sightings 329 Nightime Sightings 241 Weather Clear 103 Cloudy 16 Partly Cloudy 8 Snowing 9 Raining 9 What Activing Observer Was Engaged In Driving 194 Walking/Hiking 109 At Home 85 Hunting 61 Camping 46 Working 16 Fishing 16 Horseback Riding 11 Parking 4 Playing 9 Boating/Canoeing 4 Rock Climbing 2 Looking for Bigfoot 2 Swimming 2 What Bigfoot Was Doing When Observed Walking 151 Standing 100 Observing Observer 68 Running 69 Crossing Road 58 Bent Over/Kneeling 40 Drinking 14 Chasing Other Animals 4 (Sheep, Deer, Elk, Hogs) Digging 3 Playing In Water 4 Making Noises 3 Shaking Trees 2 Crossing River 3 Sitting in tree 5 Eating Leaves 3 Eating Berries 2 Fishing 1 Hitting Log With Rock 1 Grabbing Leaves 1 Picking Up Roadkill 1 Jumped Out Of Tree 1 Hanging From Tree 1 How Bigfoot Reacted To Observer No Visible Reaction 198 Walked Away 77 Ran Away 71 Agressively 23 Watched Observer 11 Estimated Heights 0-4' 8 4'1"-5' 6 5'1"-6' 47 6'1"-7' 113 7'1"-8' 97 8'1"-9' 64 9'1"-10' 8 10'+ 8 Reported Coloring Brown Variations 137 Black 76 Reddish Variations 58 Just Said Dark 54 White Variations 45 Uncertain Black or Brown 13 Tan Variations 13 Reported Eye Color Red 14 Yellow 11 Glowing 7 Green 6 Red-Brown 2 Brown 3 Blue 2 Dark 4 Black 3 Pink 1 How Many Seen During Sighting One 543 Two 26 Three 4 Five 2 (Believed to be family unit, parents and kids) Reports That Mention Smell 66 How Close Did Bigfoot Come Under 5' 5 5-20' 81 21-50' 90 51-100' 53 101-250' 50 251-400' 17 401-600' 21 Over 600' 13 Water in Vicinity Creeks 111 Marsh/Swamp 56 River 36 Pond 20 Lake 21 Canals 7 Ocean 1 Berries Mentioned 12 Tree Types Generic TREES 235 Conifers 125 Mixed 60 Hardwoods 40 Fruit 6 Interesting Mentions Railroad Tracks 27 Observer Going Bathroom Outdoors 11 Running On All Fours 7 Carrying Infant 2 Missing Livestock 2 Appeared to be wearing leaves in hair as additional camoflage 2 Observed Teeth, No Canines 1 Saw Hitting Rocks Together 1 Saw Carrying Dead Deer 3 Paced Running Bigfoot With Car Apprx. 45 MPH 1 Scat 18" x 3" 1 Hitting Log With Rock 1 Visible Hump On Back 1 Bigfoot Accompanied By A Dog 1 Seen Stacking Rocks 1 Had Long Tail 1 Many close enough to describe eye color, also notice no whites visible. |
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Oct 12 2004, 08:01 PM
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Stat Man of IL Group: BFF Moderators Posts: 3,867 Joined: 28-January 04 From: Illinois-Wisconsin Stateline Area Member No.: 700 |
700 Report Update
These are running totals, so previous counts included. Season When Sighting Occured Summer 281 Fall 197 Winter 93 Spring 81 Daytime Sightings 380 Nightime Sightings 286 Weather Clear 110 Cloudy 17 Partly Cloudy 8 Snowing 9 Raining 10 What Activing Observer Was Engaged In Driving 232 Walking/Hiking 123 At Home 96 Hunting 72 Camping 49 Working 19 Fishing 22 Horseback Riding 14 Parking 5 Playing 11 Boating/Canoeing 5 Rock Climbing 2 Looking for Bigfoot 2 Swimming 3 What Bigfoot Was Doing When Observed Walking 169 Standing 123 Observing Observer 74 Running 79 Crossing Road 76 Bent Over/Kneeling 51 Drinking 14 Chasing Other Animals 8 (Sheep, Deer, Elk, Hogs) Digging 3 Playing In Water 4 Making Noises 4 Shaking Trees 2 Crossing River 3 Sitting in tree 5 Eating Leaves 3 Eating Berries 3 Fishing 2 Hitting Log With Rock 1 Grabbing Leaves 1 Picking Up Roadkill 1 Jumped Out Of Tree 1 Hanging From Tree 1 How Bigfoot Reacted To Observer No Visible Reaction 202 Walked Away 83 Ran Away 77 Agressively 28 Watched Observer 11 Estimated Heights 0-4' 9 4'1"-5' 6 5'1"-6' 54 6'1"-7' 140 7'1"-8' 117 8'1"-9' 69 9'1"-10' 10 10'+ 8 Reported Coloring Brown Variations 152 Black 90 Reddish Variations 71 Just Said Dark 68 White Variations 56 Uncertain Black or Brown 19 Tan Variations 13 Reported Eye Color Red 16 Yellow 13 Glowing 8 Green 6 Red-Brown 2 Brown 4 Blue 2 Dark 4 Black 3 Orange 2 Pink 1 How Many Seen During Sighting One 637 Two 28 Three 4 Five 2 (Believed to be family unit, parents and kids) Reports That Mention Smell 78 How Close Did Bigfoot Come Under 5' 6 5-20' 93 21-50' 101 51-100' 62 101-250' 64 251-400' 19 401-600' 21 Over 600' 14 Water in Vicinity Creeks 145 Marsh/Swamp 75 River 46 Pond 24 Lake 25 Canals 7 Ocean 1 Berries Mentioned 14 Tree Types Generic TREES 235 Conifers 125 Mixed 60 Hardwoods 40 Fruit 6 Interesting Mentions Railroad Tracks 28 Observer Going Bathroom Outdoors 11 Running On All Fours 11 Carrying Infant 2 Missing Livestock 2 Appeared to be wearing leaves in hair as additional camoflage 2 Observed Teeth, No Canines 1 Saw Hitting Rocks Together 1 Saw Carrying Dead Deer 4 Paced Running Bigfoot With Car Apprx. 45 MPH 1 Scat 18" x 3" 1 Hitting Log With Rock 1 Visible Hump On Back 1 Bigfoot Accompanied By A Dog 1 Seen Stacking Rocks 1 Had Long Tail 1 Many close enough to describe eye color, also notice no whites visible. |
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Oct 13 2004, 08:58 AM
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Stat Man of IL Group: BFF Moderators Posts: 3,867 Joined: 28-January 04 From: Illinois-Wisconsin Stateline Area Member No.: 700 |
FINAL UPDATE RECORDS 770
These are running totals, so previous counts included. Season When Sighting Occured Summer 326 Fall 217 Winter 98 Spring 98 Daytime Sightings 432 Nightime Sightings 305 Weather Clear 127 Cloudy 20 Raining 11 Snowing 10 Partly Cloudy 8 What Activing Observer Was Engaged In Driving 260 Walking/Hiking 141 At Home 99 Hunting 79 Camping 54 Working 19 Fishing 28 Horseback Riding 15 Parking 6 Playing 11 Boating/Canoeing 6 Rock Climbing 2 Looking for Bigfoot 2 Swimming 4 What Bigfoot Was Doing When Observed Walking 187 Standing 138 Observing Observer 77 Running 79 Crossing Road 86 Bent Over/Kneeling 58 Drinking 14 Chasing Other Animals 8 (Sheep, Deer, Elk, Hogs) Digging 3 Playing In Water 6 Making Noises 4 Shaking Trees 2 Crossing River 3 Sitting in tree 7 Eating Leaves 3 Eating Berries 3 Fishing 2 Hitting Log With Rock 1 Grabbing Leaves 1 Picking Up Roadkill 1 Jumped Out Of Tree 1 Hanging From Tree 1 How Bigfoot Reacted To Observer No Visible Reaction 210 Walked Away 91 Ran Away 86 Agressively 32 Watched Observer 12 Estimated Heights 0-4' 10 4'1"-5' 6 5'1"-6' 57 6'1"-7' 153 7'1"-8' 129 8'1"-9' 79 9'1"-10' 11 10'+ 9 Reported Coloring Brown Variations 169 Black 105 Reddish Variations 76 Just Said Dark 79 White Variations 60 Uncertain Black or Brown 19 Tan Variations 13 Reported Eye Color Red 16 Yellow 15 Glowing 8 Green 6 Red-Brown 2 Brown 4 Blue 2 Dark 4 Black 3 Orange 2 Pink 1 How Many Seen During Sighting One 738 Two 23 Three 7 Five 2 (Believed to be family unit, parents and kids) Reports That Mention Smell 88 How Close Did Bigfoot Come Under 5' 7 5-20' 99 21-50' 108 51-100' 64 101-250' 73 251-400' 22 401-600' 24 Over 600' 19 Water in Vicinity Creeks 162 Marsh/Swamp 83 River 49 Pond 28 Lake 31 Canals 7 Ocean 2 Berries Mentioned 14 Tree Types Generic TREES 271 Conifers 132 Mixed 68 Hardwoods 42 Fruit 7 Interesting Mentions Railroad Tracks 33 Observer Going Bathroom Outdoors 12 Running On All Fours 11 Carrying Infant 2 Missing Livestock 2 Appeared to be wearing leaves in hair as additional camoflage 2 Observed Teeth, No Canines 1 Saw Hitting Rocks Together 1 Saw Carrying Dead Deer 4 Paced Running Bigfoot With Car Apprx. 45 MPH 1 Scat 18" x 3" 1 Hitting Log With Rock 1 Visible Hump On Back 1 Bigfoot Accompanied By A Dog 1 Seen Stacking Rocks 1 Had Long Tail 1 Many close enough to describe eye color, also notice no whites visible. |
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Oct 13 2004, 09:21 AM
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Three toes - Zoobie Group: Members Posts: 219 Joined: 17-August 04 From: Buckeye State Member No.: 1,329 |
Wow Moregon! These are great.
I wonder how the one "with dog" happened? Assuming it was not a lie, what could be some of the reasons a dog would be with bf? |
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Oct 13 2004, 09:26 AM
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Four toes - Rugaru Group: Members Posts: 246 Joined: 8-March 04 From: Southeast Michigan Member No.: 846 |
Thanks for your effort moregon!
Now I'm no Judaculla (it's been along time since I studied statistics) but this looks like a fairly normal distribution to me.
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Oct 13 2004, 09:59 AM
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Stat Man of IL Group: BFF Moderators Posts: 3,867 Joined: 28-January 04 From: Illinois-Wisconsin Stateline Area Member No.: 700 |
OBSERVATIONS
SEASON Summer wins out with 326 sightings being reported during this season. I dnn't think the reason is as much because it's during this season that bigfoot is the most active, as it is that people are most active during this season. Especially people going into areas where bigfoot resides due to vacations etc. With fall showing up second, remember, this is the high season for hunters in the field, once again, a season where people are most active in the same habitat as bigfoot. WEATHER Here again, it's obvious people are going to be more willing to go out into the woods etc when the weather is nice, rather than during inclement weather situations. OBSERVERS ACTIVITY We agreed earlier, that more people drive than engage in any other kind of outdoor activity that would put them into a position to see bigfoot, you won't find many walking around the local shopping mall. If you add all of the outdoor activies together, as one class we beat driving with a total of 329 sightings. Being that fewer people are active outdoors than drive, you have a better chance of sighting bigfoot engaged in one of these percentage wise. BIGFOOT ACTIVITY The one that peaked my curiosity the most in this group, were the sightings where bigfoot was bent over or kneeling. In many of these sightings when bigfoot was first seen in this position, he was mistaken for a tree stump or rock, then eventually stood up or moved. It makes me wonder just how many stumps or rocks I've assumed that that is all they were, that could have lead to a sighting. BIGFOOT REACTION In this category the AGRESSIVE reaction covered screaming, charging, chasing and other sounds or movements that would appear agressive. I'm surprised this is as low as it is due to as many reports that state bigfoot was basically cornered and had no visible exits from the observers. Any wild animal will attack if cornered as their line of defense. In all of the reports, there was only 1 that reported that bigfoot actually laid a hand on them, and then it was simply a push out of the way allowing him to escape. Considering this was an encounter between a 7+ foot creature, and a young teenager, the outcome could have been a lot worse had bigfoot actually wanted to be that agressive. ESTIMATED HEIGHT Most people are not that good at estimating height or distances. Overall I think we can safely assume that 6-8 foot is probably the normal range of height. Those considerably shorter are probably juveniles. COLORING It looks like blacks and browns are the most common color phases. The one thing that did stick out, was some people went into more detail that others as far as the coloring and instead of simply saying brown or black they noticed that they were not uniform in coloring. Rather even though overall they were say black, there were different shades at different locations of the body, more so than multi-toned strands being evenly dispersed all over the body. Visualizing what they were talking about, it reminded me of camoflage clothing hunters wear in the field. In the shadows various shades of black would work great, appearing like variations of the sun coming throught the leafy canopy. In areas where the woods aren't as thick, or open areas, the browns would work better as looking like tree trunks, branches or mounds of dirt. EYE COLORING I was surprised only by the wide variations of colors reported. I was also surprised that some reported the eyes were reflective in lights, while a smaller group reported they did not reflect light. HOW MANY SEEN With only 1 bigfoot being seen at a time through the majority of reports, it seems most likely they don't travel as family units. It could very well be the mother stays back at the den or whatever with the juveniles while the father goes out to hunt and supply food to the family. Or as in the case of the African Lion, mommy goes to hunt while daddy plays Mr. Mom. SMELL It seems that the ODOR has been mentioned so much, that I expected to see it in just about every report, however I find that it's only mentioned in roughly 11% of the sightings. Many people mentioned they were surprised there was no smell to associate with their sighting, even at distances of under 20 feet. Those that did smell an odor described it as musty, like dirty gym clothing, wet dog, or cabbage! DISTANCES Many reports were not specific as to the distance away bigfoot was when sighted. I didn't want to base any results on assumptions on my part so I left those out. When someone says down the road a piece, it could be 100 feet or 1000 feet, too much of a difference to base results on. I was surprised at the number of close encounters, under 50 feet with no negative results to either observer or bigfoot becoming the final outcome. WATER Creeks are the clear winner, and overall moving bodies of water beating out static bodies of water. BERRIES Although berries in the area seem to get a low number of reports, most people were not very detailed in their reporting. Those that were mentioned were primarily raspberries and huckleberries. The few times that scat was mentioned it usually consisted of berries being obvious in their make-up along with leaves and grasses. TREES Again I think the biggest problem here is lack of detail on the part of the reporter. Fruit trees showed up a lot less that I had expected. INTERESTING MENTIONS Railroad tracks came up quite a bit in comparison. I think they would have shown up more had people been more detailed, as well as more familiar with the location they were in. Many sightings occured in areas where people were traveling through and not familiar with the local area. Those that were relieving themselves outdoors did not notice bigfoot, who was usually in an observing mode, until after they had completed or nearly completed their job. This makes me think that maybe it was the smell of the urine or, that attracted bigfoot in the first place. Dropping to all fours while running, appeared more often that I had expected, and usually it was followed by a leap of some distance from this position, 15-20 foot leaps. OVERALL I didn't find as many reports as I thought I would where bigfoot was reported as some sort of alien or mystical creature. For the vast majority he's simply a creature of flesh and blood. There was also a wide variation in how his size was described with some saying tall and thin and others stocky. Possibly due to the type or amount of food in the locale where he was spotted. Foods he was reported seen eating or evidence of him eating were leaves, berries, frogs, fish, shellfish, deer and rabbits. This post has been edited by moregon: Oct 13 2004, 10:09 AM |
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Oct 13 2004, 10:09 AM
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Two toes - Windigo Group: Members Posts: 35 Joined: 13-September 04 From: pnw, wa state Member No.: 1,428 |
MOREGON,
This obviously took some time to put together! Thank you for your time!! This will be helpfull in putting together future research outings!!! |
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Oct 25 2004, 05:11 PM
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Four toes - Rugaru Group: Members Posts: 267 Joined: 25-May 04 Member No.: 1,057 |
Great stuff! However, I think a new option is needed here:
Water in Vicinity Creeks 21 Marsh/Swamp 13 River 13 Lake 3 Pond 3 Canals 2 Can "NONE" be added to tally reports where no water is nearby? |
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Oct 25 2004, 06:53 PM
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Stat Man of IL Group: BFF Moderators Posts: 3,867 Joined: 28-January 04 From: Illinois-Wisconsin Stateline Area Member No.: 700 |
Hitechhunter just subtract the total of the above mentions, and you'll have how many reports don't mention water. However, it won't be an accurate count. Many of the reports lacked much if any detail about the surrounding area where the sighting occured.
Last week I went to Butte Falls to look for the area where a sighting occured in July. There was no mention of water in that report either, yet there are only 2 dirt roads that could be the possible site. At one road there is a creek within 100 feet and at the other a lake of about 50 acres within 50 feet. The biggest problem is people just don't pay attention to detail when filling out their reports. They cover the things that really stand out, such as the bigfoot itself, or the smell, but disregard small things, like water, plant life, other animals, fences, signs. All of these things can help to pinpoint the actual location, as well as add more clues to our search. Examples would be reporting plant life. as some plants are only found at certain altitudes, or in areas with so much moisture. All of this helps to narrow down the areas that may be more productive in the search. At the current time, it's wide open, and we are possibly wasting a lot of manpower and time searching in places that are least likely to hold a bigfoot. Using GPS Data would be the most productive, then we could compare the actual location, to a topo map, and see if there are water sources, or other things within a short distance of the sighting location. This post has been edited by moregon: Oct 25 2004, 06:55 PM |
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Oct 26 2004, 01:06 PM
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Three toes - Zoobie Group: Members Posts: 107 Joined: 21-October 04 From: The Crossroads of the West Member No.: 1,527 |
QUOTE(moregon @ Oct 13 2004, 08:58 AM) Daytime Sightings 432 Nightime Sightings 305 Of all the stats, I found the above the most interesting. For a creature who is assumed to be primarily nocturnal, you'd think the number of sightings would be greater at night. I realize that there is less visibilty at night, and fewer people, but for a supposedly nocturnal creature, they sure do seem to be active during the day. Is it possible, that Bigfoot is both nocturnal and diurnal? BTW, what hours did you use as the cutoff for Daytime and Nighttime? This post has been edited by sasquatch: Oct 26 2004, 01:07 PM |
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Oct 26 2004, 01:49 PM
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One star - Yowie Group: Members Posts: 1,116 Joined: 3-June 04 From: East Wenatchee, WA Member No.: 1,084 |
Unbelievably awesome work, Moregon!
One request...if you don't mind...would it be possible to show the seasonal sightings broken down by month? You don't have to do this, but it would be cool if you could. Thanks!!! And once again, good job! Zog This post has been edited by ZogTheFuzzy: Oct 26 2004, 01:55 PM |
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Oct 26 2004, 06:11 PM
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Stat Man of IL Group: BFF Moderators Posts: 3,867 Joined: 28-January 04 From: Illinois-Wisconsin Stateline Area Member No.: 700 |
QUOTE(sasquatch @ Oct 26 2004, 12:06 PM) QUOTE(moregon @ Oct 13 2004, 08:58 AM) Daytime Sightings 432 Nightime Sightings 305 Of all the stats, I found the above the most interesting. For a creature who is assumed to be primarily nocturnal, you'd think the number of sightings would be greater at night. I realize that there is less visibilty at night, and fewer people, but for a supposedly nocturnal creature, they sure do seem to be active during the day. Is it possible, that Bigfoot is both nocturnal and diurnal? BTW, what hours did you use as the cutoff for Daytime and Nighttime? For the most part the reports themselves said if it was day or night, if not directly then with hints, ie "he then stepped into our headlights". In other cases I based it on the time of the incident, and the season of the year. 8pm during the summer is still daytime, but in the winter it's definately dark. |
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Oct 26 2004, 08:50 PM
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Stat Man of IL Group: BFF Moderators Posts: 3,867 Joined: 28-January 04 From: Illinois-Wisconsin Stateline Area Member No.: 700 |
QUOTE(ZogTheFuzzy @ Oct 26 2004, 12:49 PM) Unbelievably awesome work, Moregon! One request...if you don't mind...would it be possible to show the seasonal sightings broken down by month? You don't have to do this, but it would be cool if you could. Thanks!!! And once again, good job! Zog Here it is broken down by percentages of sightings... January 4.5% February 3.4% March 3.8% April 5.4% May 7.3% June 9.8% July 14.6% August 15% September 10.3% October 11.8% November 9.4% December 4.7% |
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Oct 27 2004, 02:49 PM
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Four toes - Rugaru Group: Members Posts: 267 Joined: 25-May 04 Member No.: 1,057 |
Somewhere else I noticed that the sightings really peaked in August and into September. I'll bet that's mating season.
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Apr 29 2006, 10:13 PM
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Three toes - Zoobie Group: Members Posts: 107 Joined: 1-February 06 From: SW Missouri Member No.: 2,794 |
Of all the stats, I found the above the most interesting. For a creature who is assumed to be primarily nocturnal, you'd think the number of sightings would be greater at night. I realize that there is less visibilty at night, and fewer people, but for a supposedly nocturnal creature, they sure do seem to be active during the day. Is it possible, that Bigfoot is both nocturnal and diurnal? Oooorrrr.... is Bigfoot spotted in the day more because they are easier to see during the day? If they are nocturnal, and made for the night, then it would make sense that they would be easy to see during the daytime. How many people have avoided dark areas near a, saaay, cliff overhang, or walked past clumps of "trees" during the night thinking nothing was around when they have actually come within a few feet of the most elusive creature in North America? and many thanks to you moregon. This thread is a gold mine for someone who has a limited amount of time and resources. we do appreciate your hard work!!!! :new_thumbsupsmileyanim: |
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Apr 30 2006, 10:02 AM
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One star - Yowie Group: Members Posts: 1,397 Joined: 6-January 05 From: Yakima in south-cental Washington State Member No.: 1,755 |
MOREGON Would it be possible to update this on a yearly basis. So it will be current.
MODS Would it be possible to pin this above. So that this will not be lost back in the archives. |
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