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post Nov 14 2006, 07:44 PM
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QUOTE(Thigmo @ Nov 13 2006, 07:34 PM) *
Pickin's are pretty slim for Georgia...



Pssst......here's a hint. Don't just look for English names. :wink:
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post Nov 14 2006, 07:45 PM
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QUOTE(Blackbear @ Nov 14 2006, 01:29 AM) *
I have always wondered about these two places in missouri called Monkey Mountain:

This one pretty close to me:
http://www.jacksongov.org/content/1169/121...33/default.aspx

and this other one:
http://www.carrollscorner.net/SitesWashCo_MonkeyMtn.htm




There's also a Monkey Mountain in Wapello County Iowa.
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post Nov 14 2006, 09:39 PM
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Here in Quebec we have the Wendigo Falls near Ferme Neuve...

I know that Wendigo and BF are not the same, but still... :smile:
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Skookumchuck Narrows, Sunshine Coast, BC.





Interestingly, if we have sasqs here on the Sunshine Coast, as reported, they would either have to walk across the narrow neck of land that is the town of Sechelt, been resident on the northern part of the Sechelt Penninsula since the town was settled, or swam (swum? Swimmed?) across the Skookumchuck narrows. Around here, Skookum means BIG. The Pub at Egmont Marina serves a Skook Burger that you don't want to tangle with!

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Only in Skamania County - The Bigfoot Trailer Park (and Resort), in Carson, WA...
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QUOTE(LAL @ Nov 13 2006, 04:44 PM) *
QUOTE(Enkidu @ May 30 2004, 11:23 AM) *

^ Here's a rhetorical question; why name a ravine on a volcano in the PNW Ape Canyon unless there were apes in it?


Evidently it was named for the 1924 incident.


Ape Canyon near Mt. St. Helens was indeed named as the result of an incident in 1924 when a group of miners working in the area was allegedly "attacked" by "ape like" creatures on two occasions over a period of less than 24 hours. One of the creatures was supposedly shot and killed and the body was rolled down the canyon ravine, which thereafter became known as Ape Canyon. Lava tubes located near the volcano bear the name Ape Caves, but they are named after the first explorers of the caves who dubbed themselves the Ape Club.

All of this raises a very interesting question (in my skeptical mind anyway). There were numerous other alleged Bigfoot sightings around the Mt. St. Helens area prior to May 18, 1980. In the aftermath of the eruption, according to the Washington State Department of Game, some 5000 black-tailed deer, 200 black bear, 1500 elk and untold numbers of birds, lizards and small animals were killed. The north side of the mountain was effectively obliterated of wildlife, and numerous specimens on the other sides didn't do well either. So much for the theory that animals have some sixth sense about such things. We humans didn't do much better, with 55 people killed, and all of them had some idea an eruption was imminent. Had the volcano not erupted on a Sunday morning, the toll might have been much higher. Numerous loggers would have been on the north side of the mountain on a weekday.

My point here is this: Take another look at the list of animal casualties. Notice anything missing? Was this the definitive experiment on the existance of Bigfoot?

Incidentally, I'm new here...Greetings to all, and be kind to a gentle skeptic. :smile:

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Not a place name, but Bigfoot/Skookum names are alive and well in Newport Washington :biggrin:

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I came across one yesterday NWSquatcher, a business with a bigfoot/sasquatch related name. In the middle of Rockford, IL Population 150,000+ in the city proper, include all the surrounding subs and quite a bit bigger.

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Please, no comments about "This looks like the place to do some research." :doh:
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QUOTE(moregon @ Nov 17 2006, 03:09 PM) *
Please, no comments about "This looks like the place to do some research." :doh:



Hmmmm.....it had to cross your mind for you to make that statment! :eek3dance:
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There is an unverified rumor that the dead sasqatch were dumped out at sea.
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QUOTE(StaninWI @ Nov 17 2006, 04:29 PM) *
Saturnwacher
There is an unverified rumor that the dead sasqatch were dumped out at sea.


In my line of work, I'm frequently bombarded by discussions of "coverups," unverified rumors etc. regarding matters such as enigmatic faces on Mars, alien visitors and what not. The ultimate point is, who benefits from conspiratorial coverups of matters of interest to science? Certainly not scientists. Effectively, these "unverified rumors" and a buck and a half will buy a cup of coffee. I think I can assure you without much concern that if any Sasquatch remains had been discovered, biologists at the Washington State Department of Game wouldn't have been able to get the news to the press fast enough. I'd cite as an unfortunate example the "life in the Mars meteor" situation a few years ago, when NASA went to the press way too prematurely.

Incidentally, if there is a group research project at the Bigfoot Lounge in the works, please send along an invite. :new_thumbsupsmileyanim:

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Moregon: :eek3dance: Your post so far is the most interesting :smile:

Gotta wonder why these places are named as they are........ I can understand our Skookum names as they are all within a few miles of the Kalispel Indian Reservation, and that also translates into our communities use of Bigfoot in their road names and Chicken Fried Steak Dinners........ etc

But BIGFOOT LOUNGE, I really want to know the reason behind the name LOL :wink:
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post Nov 17 2006, 09:52 PM
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How about this one from North Georgia near Brasstown Bald. Unfortunately the store employee wasn't a wealth of knowledge except some of the locals referred to this area as "Booger Hollow."

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Nice find Mike. The only problem with Boogers is they can refer to just about anything that goes bump in the night.
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QUOTE(Smitty @ Nov 14 2006, 09:01 PM) *
Skookumchuck Narrows, Sunshine Coast, BC.





Interestingly, if we have sasqs here on the Sunshine Coast, as reported, they would either have to walk across the narrow neck of land that is the town of Sechelt, been resident on the northern part of the Sechelt Penninsula since the town was settled, or swam (swum? Swimmed?) across the Skookumchuck narrows. Around here, Skookum means BIG. The Pub at Egmont Marina serves a Skook Burger that you don't want to tangle with!

Smitty

Hey Smitty....the pub also makes decent fish and chips........loved watching the Hummingbirds there as well.
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There is Lake Minnewanka (Banff National Park) here in Alberta. It was named Devil's Lake up until the early 20th century.

Here is a painting of Lake Minnewanka from 1905. It's from an old postcard.
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I live very close to a tributary of the Smith River. Its called "Monkey Creek" and above it is "Monkey Ridge". Nice and straightfoward!
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Here in San Jose there is the Diablo Range, that runs down the entire East side of the Bay Area peninsula. There is an interesting story about how the name was given, below. There is also a very famous Bigfoot encounter from this area, see this article from BFRO about "the wild men of California" between Orestimba Creek and Pacheco Pass:

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How Did Mount Diablo Get Its Name?

What's In a Name?
Like many other isolated peaks, Mt. Diablo is steeped in lore - much of it involving the mountain's name. The reference to "diablo" or "devil", can be traced back to 1804 or 1805, when a Spanish military expedition visited the area in search of runaway mission Indians. At a willow thicket near present-day Buchanan Field, the soldiers encountered a Village of Chupcan people and surrounded it. But night came, and evidently all the Indians escaped, unseen. Angry and confused, the Spanish called the site "Monte del Diablo", or "Thicket of the Devil". Later, English-speaking newcomers mistakenly assumed the word "monte" to mean "mountain", and applied the title to this prominent east bay peak. A linguistic accident thus gave California its Devil Mountain.

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Two Devilish Tales

Vallejo's account...

As years went by, the willow thicket story passed into folklore, and with each retelling the details changed. In an 1850 version, General Mariano Vallejo placed the incident at the foot of Mt. Diablo, claiming that the Spanish were routed when an "unknown personage" or "evil spirit" appeared. In 1914 Vallejo's son Platon made his father the hero who lassoed this "agent of his master, the devil".

... and the Bret Harte Legend

Of the many creative explanations for Mt. Diablo's name, perhaps the most famous is a Bret Harte short story that was published in 1863. In this fictional tale the devil appeared to an eighteenth century priest atop the mountain. There the padre was shown a vision of the future - the passing of Spanish California into American hands - but the devil promised to detain the Yankee hordes if the good father would renounce his calling. The offer was rejected and a fight ensued. Afterward the priest awoke, as from a dream.

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One Mountain Many Names

Although we know this place as Mt. Diablo today, the mountain has had many Indian names. They include: Tuyshtak (Ohlone/Costanoan), 'Oj-ompil-e (Northern Miwok), Supemenenu (Southern Miwok), Sukku Jaman (Nisenan) and Kawukum (group of unknown origin).

An early Spanish name for the peak was "Cerro Alto de los Bolbones", or "High Point of the Volvon Indians". At one time, most of the mountain lay within the homeland of the Volvon, a Bay Miwok group.
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QUOTE(tugboatwa @ May 29 2004, 08:39 PM) *
From Bobbie Short's Bigfoot Encounters site...

FATE Magazine: © Loren Coleman - November 1998

...Oddly enough, most native peoples of the Olympic Peninsula did not venture into the interior, because their thought their gods lived their. There are some interesting parallels between some stories of the Himalayan Shangrila and native legends of a hidden valley in the Olympics, guarded by skookums,...[/b]


I just discovered this thread and found this part of the article quite interesting as, while on a college hiking trip to the Enchanted Valley in the Olympic Mountains in the late 80's, my companions and I encountered 2 mysterious hikers who were hightailing it out of the valley due to being harrassed by what they termed "aggressive sasquatch." (I posted more about this encounter in the New Member Welcome thread several weeks ago.)

P.S. Here in the Pac NW there is a new chain of espresso joints popping up on street corners called Bigfoot Java.

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QUOTE(Morgoth @ Nov 22 2006, 08:33 AM) *
...Two Devilish Tales

Vallejo's account...

As years went by, the willow thicket story passed into folklore, and with each retelling the details changed. In an 1850 version, General Mariano Vallejo placed the incident at the foot of Mt. Diablo, claiming that the Spanish were routed when an "unknown personage" or "evil spirit" appeared. In 1914 Vallejo's son Platon made his father the hero who lassoed this "agent of his master, the devil"...


I was up on Mt. Diablo today, reading the plaques on the summit with these stories of how the mountain was named and wondering the same thing. I suppose the name could have come from a number of different sources, and certainly having Spanish missionaries fail in their attempts to enslave the local peoples, then blame the Devil, is reasonable. Also, English-speaking people misinterpreting foreign words is nothing new (think "Abominable Snowman").

I like the thought that the "unknown personage" or "evil spirit" in Vallejo's account might be our hairy friend. I think it's reasonable that they could have been around the area in the early 1800s, if they were seen in Crow Canyon and around Orestimba Creek (interestingly, there is a BFRO B-category report from Walnut Creek in 2000, but I lend it little credence - I'm not even sure why they have this on the site). Anyway, I say choose the story you like best! More fun that way!
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QUOTE(jon a. larsen @ Jun 1 2004, 09:48 AM) *
my home........ Bigfoot land.......Patagonia..............................


Patagonia Arizona?
I was born and spent the first few years of my life there.
There aren't Bigfoot sightings from around there are there?
Or is your home just titled Bigfoot Land?

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P.S. Here in the Pac NW there is a new chain of espresso joints popping up on street corners called Bigfoot Java.

The PNW has alot of companies that take advantage of the whole Sasquatch mystique. I've seen Bigfoot rafting or Bigfoot RV parks, no quite as interesting as the places that got their names before Sasquatch became part of pop culture?
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In Salt Fork State Park, Ohio there is a feature called Devil's Knob. Given a seeming long history of reports in that area, I find the name of that knob to be interesting. Ohio also has a monkey hollow and a Monkey Hollow Road.
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I have to wonder if some names are linked to BF by us rather than them being named for the creature.
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You mean like Big Foot High School in Walworth, WI

Or Big Foot Beach State Park Big Foot Beach State Park just down the road...

Maybe even just across the stateline in Illinois where you'll find Big Foot Prairie


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Term: Lake Geneva, Walworth Co. [origin of place name]
Definition: Lake named by John Brek who surveyed the township lines in about 1835 - because it reminded him of Seneca Lake near Geneva, N.Y.

From Increase Lapham's 1844 Geographical and Topographical Description of Wisconsin:

"GENEVA LAKE, eight miles long, and a little more than one mile average breadth, covering an area of 5,423 acres, or nearly eight and a half square miles; and having a periphery of nineteen miles. It was formerly called Big Foot lake, from some fancied resemblance of its form to that of the human foot. Is is supplied mostly from springs, not having any considerable tributary. It is principally in township one, range seventeen, and its longest diameter lies nearly due east and west. Fontana is at the head of this lake, and Geneva is at the foot."

[Source: Simmons Annals, p. 11.]


I never thought it had anything to do with Bigfoot/Sasquatch but assumed it was associated with Native Americans in one way or another. Then I find it's nothing more than names taken from a major body of water in the area's former name.
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QUOTE(FredSneakers/David @ Jan 8 2007, 02:47 AM) *
Patagonia Arizona?
I was born and spent the first few years of my life there.
There aren't Bigfoot sightings from around there are there?
Or is your home just titled Bigfoot Land?


Dunno about sightings, but as for the name, see this THREAD
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Yeah but thats Patagonia South America, not Arizona.
Patagonia is a really small town, I dunno, not much of a habitat for Sasquatch there.
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I have read in the past on this forum where people have refered to place names such as bigfoot creek, for an example, as being proof of the existence of BF here in Tennessee. But alas, this particular name came from a Cherokee of some status whose name in his native tongue was morphed into 'bigfoot' by the white settlers in the area. As were many native words, along with the actual translations of places, words and names like Cheif Big Frog, a correct English translation of the native dialect and the source of nearby Big Frog Mountain's identifier.

Just think, if Janice Carter had been raised 30 miles further south @ big frog mountain, instead of McMinn county just a few miles west of bigfoot creek, ya'll would have never heard of her in the BF community. Instead she would be toiling away on a 'Giant Amphibian Forums' web site defending her large slimy friends and working on her next book!
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QUOTE(Morgoth @ Nov 22 2006, 11:33 AM) *
Here in San Jose there is the Diablo Range, that runs down the entire East side of the Bay Area peninsula. There is an interesting story about how the name was given, below. There is also a very famous Bigfoot encounter from this area, see this article from BFRO about "the wild men of California" between Orestimba Creek and Pacheco Pass:


I was on top of Diablo last summer. What a view!

Here's a question: What exactly does "sasquatch" mean?

I just found on a topomap last night the name "Susquetonscut". It is a small mountain ridge just west of my house here in Connecticut.

I read that it may mean "place of red ledges" or it could possibly mean "swampy red rock place".

Interestingly, both meanings refer to red and one mentions swamp. A lot of Sasquatches are reported as "reddish" and swamps are also indicated as one of their prime habitats. And then there is the term "Stone Indians", too.
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According to popular belief Sasquatch is the English variation of the term "Ses qec" attributed to the Salish Nation found along the coastal region of SW Canada. I'm sure someone will correct me if I'm wrong but I think it translates, at least loosely, to either Hairy Man or Wild Man or something along those lines.
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From Answers.com:

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This word originated in Canada

In southwestern British Columbia, on southern Vancouver and nearby islands, live some five hundred speakers of Halkomelem, a Central Salish language in the Salish language family. And there is also said to be, somewhere in the mountains and woods known to the Halkomelem, a creature called in their language Sasquatch, or "hairy man."

As English-speaking enthusiasts have translated and embellished the legend for us, the Sasquatch is distinguished by more than an unusually hairy body. Modern authorities assure us that the Sasquatch is nearly human in appearance but tall as a professional basketball player, strong as a professional wrestler, nocturnal as a professional Vegas gambler, and solitary as a hermit. It eats anything that comes its way, animal or vegetable, but it doesn't go hunting. It can swim like a fish. And it can't speak, so if found it's unlikely to be interviewed on a television talk show.

Not that these authorities have actually seen a Sasquatch. But they have heard stories and reports of sightings, and they have made expeditions to the wilds of the Pacific Northwest in search of one. So far it has been as elusive as the Loch Ness Monster.

The name Sasquatch made its English-language appearance in an article in the Canadian magazine Maclean's in 1929. Since then it has spread far beyond the Halkomelem, so that today it is often used as the generic name for the "bigfoot" of North America. Around the world, other names for elusive wild men include Tibetan yeti, Mongolian almas, Chinese yeren, Vietnamese ngui rung, Sumatran orang pendek, and Australian yowie (now also a popular chocolate candy).
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QUOTE(moregon @ Feb 1 2007, 11:15 AM) *
According to popular belief Sasquatch is the English variation of the term "Ses qec" attributed to the Salish Nation found along the coastal region of SW Canada. I'm sure someone will correct me if I'm wrong but I think it translates, at least loosely, to either Hairy Man or Wild Man or something along those lines.


Correct. My notes say the word means "Wild Man of the Woods" and it's attributed to the Coast Salish. Another variant of the word is Se’dquac.

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Fishbone was helping me get the coordinates on a report I took with the BFRO and he found a Caveman Road just south of the sighting location. Since then I've found Monkey Creek, Booger Creek and Wildman's Hill. Those are the names the locals call the places anyway.
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