QUATCH & HUMAN MENSTRUATION..., Any ideas on this subject? Options

[The QuatchWatche...]

Greetings All...

Another topic...

Years ago when I lived outside of Talkeetna, Alaska my girlfriend & I went to an "Alaskan Party." That basically means alot of alcohol, ATVs & guns in the middle of nowhere. Not the safest of combinations, huh?

We were camped at X-Y Lake within full view of Denali. At three or four o'clock in the morning (yes it was still light due to the long Arctic summers) we decided to take a canoe out to go across the lake. Right as we boarded, the largest griz bear that I have EVER seen made an attempt to come toward us. After a few shots from a .50 cal Winchester GrizMag into the air, it left - chased by a small pack of huskies and wolf-hybrid dogs.

We felt that we were safe and went across the odd-shaped lake. We got to the other side and after 10 minutes, I turned around and there was THE SAME BEAR 20 feet away from us. This animal had TRACKED us all the way around the lake which was quite a feat based on the layout of the lake. LOOK IT UP ON MAPQUEST OR MAPBLAST... IT IS CALLED X-Y Lake(s). At once, we left and went back to the other side.

After all was said and done... my girlfriend admitted that, "I'm on my period."

As I'm sure you all know, this was not the time for her to be in griz country. Bears are attracted to that unique female scent and have been known to act on it.
We were lucky... very lucky.

I guess that it helps to have a good dog!

-QUESTION: How do you think our friend Quatch reacts to human menstruation?
-Are there any reports of a Quatch sighting or encounter while the viewee has been on her period?
-Would it attract a Quatch more or less?

Please Advise,
The QuatchWatcher

[liebling]

thats a good question.

i read once or twice about some bigfoot trackers nailing used tampons and pads to trees in attempt to lure the big guys closer. i dont think it made any difference but probably more studies would have to be done to really get fair results.

however, ew. imagine you're on a trail with your kids and pointing out various wildlife in the trees...and OH! whats THAT? (sorry, i get visuals of the weirdest stuff)

anyway, it stands to reason that there'd be an attraction of some sort.

gael

[The QuatchWatche...]

Used tampons on trees, wow! When and where was that?

[VernF]

There are persistent rumors, a few reports. I doubt that one can be more definitive than that.

-Vern

[The QuatchWatche...]

Also...

Couples are warned against having sex while camping in bear country...

Any reports of human sexual activity before an encounter?

[mysterious monst...]

I thought I read in a book(can't remember which one) that during the 60's Slick Expidition into the Six Rivers area that one of the members wanted to use tampons to lure a bigfoot.I think Dahinden was the one who talked about it in that book.

[VernF]

Hmm...Getting a little voyeuristic here, aren't we Quatch??? I suppose I could tell you some stories, but bigfoot wasn't involved.

-Vern

[SkunkHunter]

Used tampons on trees, wow! When and where was that?

That is horible. Blech.

[moregon]

We need someone in Grizzly country to volunteer to do an experiment, to in fact, verify it is because of the human menstruation that the Grizzlies are attracted.

On day one, brand new tampons will be hung in what shall be called, "The Tree", and a count will be done to see how many grizzlies are attracted to "The Tree". The results will be our control and create a baseline.

On day two, tampons soaked in pig or cow blood will be hung in "The Tree", and again a count will be done.

On day three, used tampons will be hung in "The Tree", and again a count done.

The results, depending on the counts, may suggest....

Day 3 results in highest count.... most likely is the specific scent of menstruation.
Day 2 results in highest count.... most likely is the scent of blood attracting them.
Day 1 results in highest count.... most likely Mrs Grizzly is menstruating and Mr Grizzly would rather pick them off a tree, saving the embarassment of visiting the nearest drug store and purchasing off the shelf.

No Change in day to day count.... it's most likely hogwash.

[Volsquatch]

WHO in their right mind is going to ask a woman with PMS if they will hand over their used tampons to hang on trees in the name of bigfoot research?!?!?!? NOT ME!


P.S. If I were a mod, I would move this to the members section. IMO some of this is a little to graphic for the young ones that are just casually passing through and reading about bigfoot. JMHO.

[The QuatchWatche...]

I was purely asking in a scientific manner? No lurid or preverted intentions were ever intended. After reading responses to vistors' ages, I was under the impression that this forum was used by adults.

No harm intended at all.

Sorry Volsquatch.

[Volsquatch]

I was purely asking in a scientific manner?  No lurid or preverted intentions were ever intended.  After reading responses to vistors' ages, I was under the impression that this forum was used by adults. 

No harm intended at all.

Sorry Volsquatch.

No offense taken QuatchWatcher, but talking about mestruation, periods, bloody tampons, having sex before a bigfoot encounter, etc. isn't what I would personally want my 10 year old reading about down at the library when he is looking for information on bigfoot. That is all I was saying, nothing against your bringing of the topic. I think it's a great topic of discussion which needs to be discussed, just in a little less easily accessable place. I just thought it was a little too graphic, that's all. Forgive me for thinking out loud. Carry on.....

P.S. There are no "visitors" pages where non-members can post. Just because some members chose to post their age in the "what's your age" thread doesn't neccesarily mean that this forum is exclusively used by adults.

[The QuatchWatche...]

Volsquatch:

No ruffled feathers here. I respect your opinion.

Enough Said,
The QuatchWatcher

[Somethin'smells]

Creepy story Quatch with you and your girlfriend…20 feet is way too close! I don't know what'd be worse a Griz high on menstrual aroma, or a BF...

There was a Wildlife magazine that came out a few years ago (not sure that's the name) detailing BF encounter in Oregon, the one where the guy leaves the trial to take a leak, and spies a BF peeping at his wife and kids from behind some trees. Anyway, at the end of the article, the writer says that one of the best ways to attract a BF is to have open air sex. They had a cartoon drawing of a BF watching an assumed couple in a tent in the middle of the act. I didn't think much of it then, as I hadn't read any reports at the time of this happening. Now years later, I think it may very well have some validity.

BTW, I might be a bit off, but the article seemed to insinuate BF is being attracted for sexual arousal reasons vs. food. Unlike the Griz I would think. The Griz is probably thinkin’ dinner time when he smells blood…

JMO.

[Muktuk]

WHO in their right mind is going to ask a woman with PMS if they will hand over their used tampons to hang on trees in the name of bigfoot research?!?!?!? NOT ME!

Umm....it seems to me that the term "PMS" is often misused. Many people (usually men but sometimes even women) assume it occurs when a woman is menstruating. In fact, "PMS" is an acronym for "pre-menstrual syndrome". Pre, meaning before. So, therefore, PMS, or pre-menstrual syndrome, refers to the week(s) prior to menstruation when hormone levels are going completely awry. Actually, once menstruation starts, PMS ends, as it is no long "pre" menstrual. It is just simply "menstrual syndrome" but nobody ever says that.

Just a little biology lesson for y'all. Hehehe. Carry on..........

[Squatchwatch]

thats a good question.

i read once or twice about some bigfoot trackers nailing used tampons to trees in attempt to lure the big guys closer. gael

I dunno Gael, seems like a waste of nails to me...why didn't they just tie 'em to the tree branches with the little stringy thingy??

[the beaver]

I recall my grand-father's stories telling me about when he started logging(pre-machinery day's),horse teams were used for tree skidding and whenever the team had a female in her cycles it would attrack buck mooses like crazy...if its of any help

[liebling]

thats a good question.

i read once or twice about some bigfoot trackers nailing used tampons to trees in attempt to lure the big guys closer. gael

I dunno Gael, seems like a waste of nails to me...why didn't they just tie 'em to the tree branches with the little stringy thingy??

omg, i have this visual of a scary christmas-tree-looking thing now

ew

[Painthorse]

[BigToe]

Hi all, I'm new.
Very interesting and funny post!
Girlfriend may look at me funny if caught going through the wastepaper basket in bathroom...Especially if she saw what I was collecting,lol!!

[Angie]

Just thought I'd pipe in here with a question. Has anyone learned that Grizzlies are really attracted to menstrual blood?

I have always had the understanding that the only bears that are attracted to menstrual blood are polar bears.

As far as BF, I do believe they are more apt to be curious about a menstruating female. I dont neccessarily believe that they are excited about it. The time that I was followed I was menstruating. I was not attacked or anything, although there was perfect opportunity.

[Squatchwatch]

Angie, I would have to assume that, as with humans and other animals, Squatch personalities vary. Some, perhaps, would be inquisitive and want to investigate the source, as in the case where you were followed. Others might decide to stay as far away as possible, knowing the source is foreign or human. Now, here's one for you. Let's carry this a step further. My wife watched a "matenity ward" show on TLC the other night. This young woman was having a particularly hard time giving birth with outbursts of screams, cries, yells, etc. She finally gave birth and the baby appeared screaming and crying. What kind of reaction do you think you'd get if you recorded a delivery such as this and played it in the boonies?? Would a Squatch, especially a female, know what was happening? Would natural instincts override her fear and prompt her to investigate further? Especially when she hears the cries of a newborn? I think.....maybe. So, guys and gals, the next time you're in the labor room, take along a recorder. You can edit out the, "PUSH!...ONE-TWO-THREE-FOUR....BREATHE....HEY! YOU'RE DOING GREAT!" later...

[MountainLady]

Just a thought from previous experience when I worked at the zoo.

Apes are known to react when a human female is menstruating. Women keepers were sometimes asked to keep their distance when it was that time of the month.
Male apes have a tendency to become excitable and female apes, agitated. I cannot say that this holds true all the time and for every ape, however.

I do recall reading a report (I think it was on Ecwool's Texas Bigfoot site) of a woman construction worker that had relieved herself near/in some bushes that was menstruating and they found the area torn to pieces the next day. There was (I think) other activity going on at the time. I would have to find the report again to be sure. It is purely hypothetical at best to think a BF would react to a woman's cycle this way, however, it makes one wonder as apes are known to behave differently at times to women's cycles.

[Orygun]

I do recall reading a report (I think it was on Ecwool's Texas Bigfoot site) of a woman construction worker that had relieved herself near/in some bushes that was menstruating and they found the area torn to pieces the next day. There was (I think) other activity going on at the time.

Any dog within a decent radius would be a more likely suspect.

[BigfootGal]

All I can say after reading this thread is, boy, am I glad I've had a hysterectomy!

[BigfootDad]

Some, perhaps, would be inquisitive and want to investigate the source, as in the case where you were followed.  Others might decide to stay as far away as possible, knowing the source is foreign or human.  Now, here's one for you. Let's carry this a step further.  My wife watched a "matenity ward" show on TLC the other night.  This young woman was having a particularly hard time giving birth with outbursts of screams, cries, yells, etc.  She finally gave birth and the baby appeared screaming and crying.  What kind of reaction do you think you'd get if you recorded a delivery such as this and played it in the boonies??  Would a Squatch, especially a female, know what was happening?  Would natural instincts override her fear and prompt her to investigate further?  Especially when she hears the cries of a newborn?  I think.....maybe.

Wow! I laid off this thread for a few days, but finally gave in and that was hair raising...and it raises some really interesting field issues!!! thanks for starting the thread, first of all.

and on Bigfoot Central last fall with GreenRogue (Sean Fries) as the guest, Robert Morgan brought up the fact that Rene and a few others would raid the women's restroom at roadside rest areas for used tampons. Then, yes, tack them to trees. Robert thought this was absurd, as menstruation would not be an "attractant" to BF, but now MountainLady brings up the apes reactions to the zoo workers. Very interesting! how 'bout during ovulation? (and yeah, should this be moved to the Members Lounge??? I agree with Volsquatch. My 8 year old isn't surfing yet, but.....) And also Angie's story of being followed, Wow!

and then we have the quote.....yeah, that is a thought...would take some editing to get just the right parts, but that might be a wild call blast night!!
I thought about playing sounds from a school playground...just kids laughing and yelling and such...but I'm off topic. (wondering when I could use this smiley! )

And we never heard (YET) about whether we have had any encounters during or right after the ...uh, well, you know.....act of ....uh, well, making....um, er...uh, I guess if it's a no-no in bear country...why not be a yes-yes in BF country...although bear and BF country are the same....ying and yang....take the risk for the benefit, etc. good-bye....good thread!

This post has been edited by BigfootDad: Feb 21 2004, 11:12 AM

[goldie]

Does anyone know if apes, gorillas, chimps and the like mensturate?
goldie

[RogerKni]

Here's a link to a post on this forum by MonkeyMan describing an interruption by a Bigfoot. Click page down 6 times to get to this paragraph:

A hilarious account of coitus interruptus sasquatchus in which two hippies enthusiastically making the beast with two backs had their grow shack toppled upon their nekkid, thrusting selves by the beast with one back, with another nearby, late at night. Hardcore panic ensued. They believe that the smell of food plus loud sexual activity brings 'em in close. That sure seems to put a damper on one's fun in the woods.

[Welby]

Just a thought here, not trying to be crude, BUT...when you say a woman is menstrating, are you referring to the five day period or the time when a woman is most fertile?

In a woman's 28 day menstrual cycle, ovulation usually occurs some ten to twelve days AFTER their period begins. (See dear, I told you, I was paying attention to all those books...) Wouldn't that period of ovulation be the time that would be most effective, if at all, for attracting the male of the species?

In the story about the couple and the grizzly bear, if by menstrating the woman meant she was during her period, isn't it possible the bear was attracted to the smell of blood instead of being sexually aroused?

It just seems to me if sexual arousal was the key, it would happen during the period of a woman's ovulation.

Am I missing something here?

Am I really discussing this on a forum where the whole world can read about it? My gosh, did I just make an idiot of myself? Lord, take me now...

[doglady]

i think it's the blood

and during sex, maybe it's the fish smell--and they think it's food!!

i dunno...........and used tampons tacked to trees...ewwwwwwwwwwwwww

[cryptic1]

fish smell

when I had my sighting,My wife was pregnant with identical twins and we didnt know yet.The sighting was only a short distance from our campsite.We had been there for at least one day and night.

[Volsquatch]

and during sex, maybe it's the fish smell--and they think it's food!!

OK, this is just sick.

[jimf]

I'll agree with that Vol...Okay guys at least try to keep it a little cleaner,please.certain visuals some of us can do without. That said.One thing no one has mentioned yet, is that for all the time and effort some people have claimed to have put on using the practice of tacking discarded hygiene products to trees and the like is that no one to my knowledge has reported it showed any succesful results..