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I really think that this is a major find and I'm really surprised that this isn't discussed here lenghtily. So I'm starting this new thread in the General Discussion area. For those who aren't up to date: A TV crew from the Syfy channel, Josh Gates and his Destination Truth team, found a clump of hair during their recent expedition in Bhutan. Back home the hairs got analyzed by an expert. Result: the DNA is from an unknown great primate.

I know that this isn't the first time that Yeti hair was analyzed and labeled "unknown primate": Some years ago a TV team from the BBC found hairs in the same general region. They let it test and it supposedly was from an unknown primate. They should compare those two samples.

Blogsquatcher made a transcript of Josh Gates interview with the expert:

Here is my transcript of Josh Gates' interview with Dr. Melba Ketchum, a forensic analyst with DNA Diagnostics, Inc., from the latest episode of Destination Truth:

Ketchum: I didn't think we would have anything to talk about here, to be honest. I was just going to rule out yeti and be done with it. I submitted the sequence that we obtained from this hair sample to a large international database that scientists use to deposit their sequence data. Well, at first I was very skeptical, because we've had these things come into our lab in the past, and they never panned out to be anything interesting. However, this sample did test very clearly on the human panel of markers. That makes it a primate, and it makes it a large primate.

Gates: And how are we sure that it isn't just human contamination or that it's just DNA from human hair?

Ketchum: The hair, visually, is not human. It's coarser than horse tail hair.

Gates: (voiceover) what she told me next seemed unbelievable.

Ketchum: Initial searches indicate that it's an unknown sequence. There are literally millions of sequences in this database. And we're really shocked that it didn't match any of the species, exactly, in the database.

Gates: What would be required in order for us to say, from a DNA standpoint, the yeti is a real animal.

Ketchum: If we're going to prove that there potentially is a new species, with this first hair sample, we really need more hair samples like it. And once you establish there is a group of animals, that will go a long ways towards proving that there is a new species indeed.


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Sasquat.ch   TV crew finds Yeti DNA   Nov 6 2009, 02:10 AM
Paul1968UK   Hmmm. I wonder whether the original sample from...   Nov 6 2009, 02:20 AM
Sasquat.ch   Hmmm. I wonder whether the original sample from...   Nov 6 2009, 09:02 AM
PaddyMan   Sorry, I'm mistaking something here. The suppo...   Nov 6 2009, 04:13 PM
Saskeptic   The supposed Yeti hair that was analyzed by Sykes ...   Nov 9 2009, 09:39 AM
Drew   Saskeptic, thanks for posting that. A hearty c...   Nov 9 2009, 10:56 AM
Meh-teh   So that earth-shattering sample was from a [i]goat...   Nov 10 2009, 06:51 AM
Saskeptic   Face it, it's a yeti. That would be fantastic...   Nov 10 2009, 08:21 AM
Furious_George   Great news if it's true. What other news sourc...   Nov 6 2009, 03:02 AM
Sasquat.ch   You can watch the episode here.   Nov 6 2009, 03:48 AM
Furious_George   Cool thanks. Pretty interesting. I hope she was r...   Nov 6 2009, 04:01 AM
spookysully   Very interesting.   Nov 6 2009, 04:17 AM
micahn   I really think that this is a major find and I...   Nov 6 2009, 05:24 AM
Determined outdoorsman   Great news indeed. I hope there are future updates...   Nov 6 2009, 07:20 AM
PEPPERSFARMS   The next logical questions are there any known pri...   Nov 6 2009, 07:35 AM
Bobby Orangeboom   The next logical questions are there any known pri...   Nov 6 2009, 10:34 AM
Mulder   The next logical questions are there any known pri...   Nov 6 2009, 05:05 PM
Spazmo   Since this is definitely an UNKNOWN primate, the p...   Nov 6 2009, 05:53 PM
Mulder   All of this stuff is relevant! Think about it:...   Nov 6 2009, 06:54 PM
Spazmo   The expert addressed the contamination issue. T...   Nov 7 2009, 12:44 PM
Mulder   Where are you getting this information? And could ...   Nov 8 2009, 03:56 AM
Spazmo   The information is provided in the transcript pres...   Nov 8 2009, 10:56 AM
Mulder   Oh come on Mulder. Stop putting words in other peo...   Nov 9 2009, 05:06 AM
Furious_George   Since this is definitely an UNKNOWN primate, the p...   Nov 6 2009, 08:54 PM
Mulder   How is it definite? She said she used a large data...   Nov 6 2009, 10:23 PM
Furious_George   Because the lab sent the results to a database tha...   Nov 7 2009, 01:27 AM
Mulder   No, that is incorrect. You're assuming what ...   Nov 8 2009, 03:51 AM
Furious_George   So your objection is now incompetence or outright ...   Nov 8 2009, 04:20 AM
Mulder   sigh Negative. You are putting words in my mouth...   Nov 9 2009, 04:59 AM
JayleeD   So your objection is now incompetence or outright ...   Nov 8 2009, 11:15 AM
southernyahoo   Here is my transcript of Josh Gates' interview...   Nov 6 2009, 08:07 AM
art bowshier   Could somrone research which seperate facilities h...   Nov 6 2009, 09:12 AM
Meh-teh   Could somrone research which seperate facilities h...   Nov 8 2009, 02:48 AM
wiiawiwb   I think it's an excellent idea for someone, or...   Nov 6 2009, 09:24 AM
gerryg   Correct me if I'm wrong but I recall the Snelg...   Nov 6 2009, 09:34 AM
Robert   Correct me if I'm wrong but I recall the Snelg...   Nov 6 2009, 10:18 AM
art bowshier   Bryan Sykes< Professor of Human Genetics ay Oxf...   Nov 6 2009, 10:43 AM
southernyahoo   Bryan Sykes< Professor of Human Genetics ay Oxf...   Nov 6 2009, 10:55 AM
Rex Lee   That's pretty interesting. Can you imagine the...   Nov 6 2009, 11:23 AM
Teresa   Irrelevant to you perhaps, Mulder. Is it just me ...   Nov 6 2009, 05:39 PM
counselor   Irrelevant to you perhaps, Mulder. Is it just me ...   Nov 6 2009, 06:06 PM
Mulder   Irrelevant to you perhaps, Mulder. Is it just me ...   Nov 6 2009, 06:57 PM
billgreen2005bigfoot   this is awesome i think to be continued :cool:   Nov 6 2009, 06:55 PM
eldonkey   Interesting info... but I will refrain from judgem...   Nov 6 2009, 10:38 PM
bigfooterbob   Was the hair sample from the show considered Yeti ...   Nov 6 2009, 11:26 PM
PunkMaister   I know that I liked this episode a whole lot! ...   Nov 8 2009, 12:40 AM
Prehistoric Fisherman   While in general I think the veracity of the test ...   Nov 8 2009, 01:09 AM
Determined outdoorsman   I think alot of you in this thread have raised val...   Nov 8 2009, 03:54 AM
spookysully   Mulder, Dude, seriously, I've always sympath...   Nov 8 2009, 10:54 AM
sierra4   Quote: Ketchum: I didn't think we would have ...   Nov 8 2009, 01:47 PM
southernyahoo   The DNA sequence was probably compared to the know...   Nov 8 2009, 02:03 PM
BobZenor   My only comment is that it sounds like a mitochond...   Nov 8 2009, 08:42 PM
eldonkey   After reading this updated thread, I have come to ...   Nov 8 2009, 10:13 PM
Spazmo   Hang on, gotta cry foul here... You used the wor...   Nov 8 2009, 10:20 PM
eldonkey   Hang on, gotta cry foul here... You used the word ...   Nov 8 2009, 10:46 PM
RedRatSnake   Hi No way that will ever happen here you must ha...   Nov 8 2009, 11:01 PM
PEPPERSFARMS   I was wondering if possibly that there may be a kn...   Nov 8 2009, 11:32 PM
Spazmo   Good point Peppers, and one I was trying to make i...   Nov 8 2009, 11:51 PM
Prehistoric Fisherman   Mulder, Furious George, and anyone else in on the ...   Nov 9 2009, 12:50 AM
Furious_George   Mulder, Furious George, and anyone else in on the ...   Nov 10 2009, 04:05 PM
PunkMaister   This could have been said in a PM as well...... as...   Nov 10 2009, 06:10 PM
Furious_George   Proof? Evidence that it was all faked staged, link...   Nov 10 2009, 08:33 PM
TwoCrows   This could have been said in a PM as well...... as...   Nov 10 2009, 07:57 PM
wickie   Well now I'm curious. What has led you to the...   Nov 10 2009, 08:14 PM
PunkMaister   Well I'm sure their sponsors would'nt be h...   Nov 10 2009, 08:35 PM
wickie   So they fabricated it all in order to prevent Goat...   Nov 10 2009, 08:43 PM
PunkMaister   Never seen the show, but I would be real cautious ...   Nov 10 2009, 09:30 PM
wickie   That's not good enough to make a claim that is...   Nov 10 2009, 09:34 PM
driftinmark   well, saskeptic, since you are the man in the fiel...   Nov 9 2009, 10:17 AM
Saskeptic   . . . contact them for the test results? That...   Nov 9 2009, 11:19 AM
Prehistoric Fisherman   Saskeptic', That's my point: no one shoul...   Nov 9 2009, 08:59 PM
Flashman   The lab techs are just paid subcontractors, and u...   Nov 10 2009, 07:58 AM
Saskeptic   The point is that the entity that owns the sample ...   Nov 10 2009, 08:35 AM
Ace!   I liked the Happy April Fools Day message in the f...   Nov 9 2009, 12:29 PM
PunkMaister   So is it fake or is it Memorex? :coverlaugh:   Nov 9 2009, 05:09 PM
PEPPERSFARMS   I can’t claim to remember much about my science cl...   Nov 9 2009, 09:55 PM
comncents   I guess I missed the part where they ruled out h...   Nov 10 2009, 10:24 AM
PunkMaister   I guess I missed the part where they ruled out hum...   Nov 10 2009, 01:55 PM
Paul1968UK   Reading T.A. Wilson's book, I was suprised to ...   Nov 10 2009, 04:14 PM
Flashman   Reading T.A. Wilson's book, I was suprised to ...   Nov 10 2009, 08:20 PM
Redwolf   Reading T.A. Wilson's book, I was suprised to ...   Nov 10 2009, 08:51 PM
Paul1968UK   Could it be the vomit Kathy Strain collected on a ...   Nov 11 2009, 11:21 AM
Spazmo   Either people are talking up non-existent evidence...   Nov 11 2009, 11:59 AM
Saskeptic   It sounds as if, after further review, the evidenc...   Nov 11 2009, 12:13 PM
Paul1968UK   It sounds as if, after further review, the evidenc...   Nov 11 2009, 12:27 PM
Flashman   As for DNA - you either have it or you don't -...   Nov 11 2009, 01:14 PM
RedRatSnake   Hi Wickie said it was his Opinion not a claim, ...   Nov 10 2009, 09:40 PM
PunkMaister   Hi Wickie said it was his Opinion not a claim, ...   Nov 10 2009, 10:00 PM
RedRatSnake   Hi There was no problem with the thread title un...   Nov 10 2009, 10:18 PM
TwoCrows   Hi There was no problem with the thread title un...   Nov 10 2009, 10:51 PM
PunkMaister   Hi There was no problem with the thread title un...   Nov 10 2009, 11:00 PM
comncents   Hi There was no problem with the thread title un...   Nov 11 2009, 09:05 AM
RedRatSnake   Hi I'll let ya know right now i never even ...   Nov 10 2009, 11:11 PM
PunkMaister   Hi I'll let ya know right now i never even ...   Nov 10 2009, 11:23 PM
RedRatSnake   Hi Well then, Thank you very much and carry on ...   Nov 11 2009, 12:06 AM
Furious_George   I believe that episode was the last of season 3 fo...   Nov 11 2009, 05:25 AM
MYM   I am a fan of the show. I can see how Josh Gate...   Nov 11 2009, 06:13 AM
Sasquat.ch   I am a fan of the show. I can see how Josh Gate...   Nov 11 2009, 06:31 AM
Gambit   I found a reference from the 1920's, from a gr...   Nov 11 2009, 07:27 PM
bipedalist   Thought it was interesting that they found a ...   Nov 11 2009, 08:37 PM
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