Nov 6 2009, 02:10 AM
Post
#1
|
|
|
Three toes - Zoobie Group: Members Posts: 157 Joined: 13-September 08 From: City of the Alps Member No.: 23,833 |
I really think that this is a major find and I'm really surprised that this isn't discussed here lenghtily. So I'm starting this new thread in the General Discussion area. For those who aren't up to date: A TV crew from the Syfy channel, Josh Gates and his Destination Truth team, found a clump of hair during their recent expedition in Bhutan. Back home the hairs got analyzed by an expert. Result: the DNA is from an unknown great primate.
I know that this isn't the first time that Yeti hair was analyzed and labeled "unknown primate": Some years ago a TV team from the BBC found hairs in the same general region. They let it test and it supposedly was from an unknown primate. They should compare those two samples. Blogsquatcher made a transcript of Josh Gates interview with the expert: Here is my transcript of Josh Gates' interview with Dr. Melba Ketchum, a forensic analyst with DNA Diagnostics, Inc., from the latest episode of Destination Truth: Ketchum: I didn't think we would have anything to talk about here, to be honest. I was just going to rule out yeti and be done with it. I submitted the sequence that we obtained from this hair sample to a large international database that scientists use to deposit their sequence data. Well, at first I was very skeptical, because we've had these things come into our lab in the past, and they never panned out to be anything interesting. However, this sample did test very clearly on the human panel of markers. That makes it a primate, and it makes it a large primate. Gates: And how are we sure that it isn't just human contamination or that it's just DNA from human hair? Ketchum: The hair, visually, is not human. It's coarser than horse tail hair. Gates: (voiceover) what she told me next seemed unbelievable. Ketchum: Initial searches indicate that it's an unknown sequence. There are literally millions of sequences in this database. And we're really shocked that it didn't match any of the species, exactly, in the database. Gates: What would be required in order for us to say, from a DNA standpoint, the yeti is a real animal. Ketchum: If we're going to prove that there potentially is a new species, with this first hair sample, we really need more hair samples like it. And once you establish there is a group of animals, that will go a long ways towards proving that there is a new species indeed. This post has been edited by Sasquat.ch: Nov 6 2009, 02:12 AM |
|
|
|
Sasquat.ch TV crew finds Yeti DNA Nov 6 2009, 02:10 AM
Paul1968UK Hmmm. I wonder whether the original sample from... Nov 6 2009, 02:20 AM
Sasquat.ch Hmmm. I wonder whether the original sample from... Nov 6 2009, 09:02 AM
PaddyMan Sorry, I'm mistaking something here. The suppo... Nov 6 2009, 04:13 PM
Saskeptic The supposed Yeti hair that was analyzed by Sykes ... Nov 9 2009, 09:39 AM
Drew
Saskeptic, thanks for posting that.
A hearty c... Nov 9 2009, 10:56 AM
Meh-teh So that earth-shattering sample was from a [i]goat... Nov 10 2009, 06:51 AM
Saskeptic Face it, it's a yeti.
That would be fantastic... Nov 10 2009, 08:21 AM
Furious_George Great news if it's true. What other news sourc... Nov 6 2009, 03:02 AM
Sasquat.ch You can watch the episode here. Nov 6 2009, 03:48 AM
Furious_George Cool thanks.
Pretty interesting. I hope she was r... Nov 6 2009, 04:01 AM
spookysully Very interesting. Nov 6 2009, 04:17 AM
micahn I really think that this is a major find and I... Nov 6 2009, 05:24 AM
Determined outdoorsman Great news indeed. I hope there are future updates... Nov 6 2009, 07:20 AM
PEPPERSFARMS The next logical questions are there any known pri... Nov 6 2009, 07:35 AM
Bobby Orangeboom The next logical questions are there any known pri... Nov 6 2009, 10:34 AM
Mulder The next logical questions are there any known pri... Nov 6 2009, 05:05 PM
Spazmo Since this is definitely an UNKNOWN primate, the p... Nov 6 2009, 05:53 PM

Mulder All of this stuff is relevant!
Think about it:... Nov 6 2009, 06:54 PM

Spazmo The expert addressed the contamination issue.
T... Nov 7 2009, 12:44 PM

Mulder Where are you getting this information?
And could ... Nov 8 2009, 03:56 AM

Spazmo The information is provided in the transcript pres... Nov 8 2009, 10:56 AM

Mulder Oh come on Mulder. Stop putting words in other peo... Nov 9 2009, 05:06 AM
Furious_George Since this is definitely an UNKNOWN primate, the p... Nov 6 2009, 08:54 PM
Mulder How is it definite? She said she used a large data... Nov 6 2009, 10:23 PM
Furious_George Because the lab sent the results to a database tha... Nov 7 2009, 01:27 AM
Mulder No, that is incorrect.
You're assuming what ... Nov 8 2009, 03:51 AM
Furious_George So your objection is now incompetence or outright ... Nov 8 2009, 04:20 AM

Mulder sigh
Negative. You are putting words in my mouth... Nov 9 2009, 04:59 AM
JayleeD So your objection is now incompetence or outright ... Nov 8 2009, 11:15 AM
southernyahoo Here is my transcript of Josh Gates' interview... Nov 6 2009, 08:07 AM
art bowshier Could somrone research which seperate facilities h... Nov 6 2009, 09:12 AM
Meh-teh Could somrone research which seperate facilities h... Nov 8 2009, 02:48 AM
wiiawiwb I think it's an excellent idea for someone, or... Nov 6 2009, 09:24 AM
gerryg Correct me if I'm wrong but I recall the Snelg... Nov 6 2009, 09:34 AM
Robert Correct me if I'm wrong but I recall the Snelg... Nov 6 2009, 10:18 AM
art bowshier Bryan Sykes< Professor of Human Genetics ay Oxf... Nov 6 2009, 10:43 AM
southernyahoo Bryan Sykes< Professor of Human Genetics ay Oxf... Nov 6 2009, 10:55 AM
Rex Lee That's pretty interesting. Can you imagine the... Nov 6 2009, 11:23 AM
Teresa Irrelevant to you perhaps, Mulder. Is it just me ... Nov 6 2009, 05:39 PM
counselor Irrelevant to you perhaps, Mulder. Is it just me ... Nov 6 2009, 06:06 PM
Mulder Irrelevant to you perhaps, Mulder. Is it just me ... Nov 6 2009, 06:57 PM
billgreen2005bigfoot this is awesome i think to be continued :cool: Nov 6 2009, 06:55 PM
eldonkey Interesting info... but I will refrain from judgem... Nov 6 2009, 10:38 PM
bigfooterbob Was the hair sample from the show considered Yeti ... Nov 6 2009, 11:26 PM
PunkMaister I know that I liked this episode a whole lot! ... Nov 8 2009, 12:40 AM
Prehistoric Fisherman While in general I think the veracity of the test ... Nov 8 2009, 01:09 AM
Determined outdoorsman I think alot of you in this thread have raised val... Nov 8 2009, 03:54 AM
spookysully Mulder,
Dude, seriously, I've always sympath... Nov 8 2009, 10:54 AM
sierra4 Quote:
Ketchum: I didn't think we would have ... Nov 8 2009, 01:47 PM
southernyahoo The DNA sequence was probably compared to the know... Nov 8 2009, 02:03 PM
BobZenor My only comment is that it sounds like a mitochond... Nov 8 2009, 08:42 PM
eldonkey After reading this updated thread, I have come to ... Nov 8 2009, 10:13 PM
Spazmo Hang on, gotta cry foul here...
You used the wor... Nov 8 2009, 10:20 PM
eldonkey Hang on, gotta cry foul here...
You used the word ... Nov 8 2009, 10:46 PM
RedRatSnake Hi
No way that will ever happen here you must ha... Nov 8 2009, 11:01 PM
PEPPERSFARMS I was wondering if possibly that there may be a kn... Nov 8 2009, 11:32 PM
Spazmo Good point Peppers, and one I was trying to make i... Nov 8 2009, 11:51 PM
Prehistoric Fisherman Mulder, Furious George, and anyone else in on the ... Nov 9 2009, 12:50 AM
Furious_George Mulder, Furious George, and anyone else in on the ... Nov 10 2009, 04:05 PM
PunkMaister This could have been said in a PM as well...... as... Nov 10 2009, 06:10 PM

Furious_George Proof? Evidence that it was all faked staged, link... Nov 10 2009, 08:33 PM
TwoCrows This could have been said in a PM as well...... as... Nov 10 2009, 07:57 PM
wickie Well now I'm curious. What has led you to the... Nov 10 2009, 08:14 PM
PunkMaister Well I'm sure their sponsors would'nt be h... Nov 10 2009, 08:35 PM
wickie So they fabricated it all in order to prevent Goat... Nov 10 2009, 08:43 PM
PunkMaister Never seen the show, but I would be real cautious ... Nov 10 2009, 09:30 PM
wickie That's not good enough to make a claim that is... Nov 10 2009, 09:34 PM
driftinmark well, saskeptic, since you are the man in the fiel... Nov 9 2009, 10:17 AM
Saskeptic . . . contact them for the test results?
That... Nov 9 2009, 11:19 AM
Prehistoric Fisherman Saskeptic',
That's my point: no one shoul... Nov 9 2009, 08:59 PM
Flashman
The lab techs are just paid subcontractors, and u... Nov 10 2009, 07:58 AM
Saskeptic The point is that the entity that owns the sample ... Nov 10 2009, 08:35 AM
Ace! I liked the Happy April Fools Day message in the f... Nov 9 2009, 12:29 PM
PunkMaister So is it fake or is it Memorex? :coverlaugh: Nov 9 2009, 05:09 PM
PEPPERSFARMS I can’t claim to remember much about my science cl... Nov 9 2009, 09:55 PM
comncents
I guess I missed the part where they ruled out h... Nov 10 2009, 10:24 AM
PunkMaister I guess I missed the part where they ruled out hum... Nov 10 2009, 01:55 PM
Paul1968UK Reading T.A. Wilson's book, I was suprised to ... Nov 10 2009, 04:14 PM
Flashman Reading T.A. Wilson's book, I was suprised to ... Nov 10 2009, 08:20 PM
Redwolf Reading T.A. Wilson's book, I was suprised to ... Nov 10 2009, 08:51 PM
Paul1968UK Could it be the vomit Kathy Strain collected on a ... Nov 11 2009, 11:21 AM
Spazmo Either people are talking up non-existent evidence... Nov 11 2009, 11:59 AM
Saskeptic It sounds as if, after further review, the evidenc... Nov 11 2009, 12:13 PM
Paul1968UK It sounds as if, after further review, the evidenc... Nov 11 2009, 12:27 PM
Flashman As for DNA - you either have it or you don't -... Nov 11 2009, 01:14 PM
RedRatSnake Hi
Wickie said it was his Opinion not a claim, ... Nov 10 2009, 09:40 PM
PunkMaister Hi
Wickie said it was his Opinion not a claim, ... Nov 10 2009, 10:00 PM
RedRatSnake Hi
There was no problem with the thread title un... Nov 10 2009, 10:18 PM
TwoCrows Hi
There was no problem with the thread title un... Nov 10 2009, 10:51 PM
PunkMaister Hi
There was no problem with the thread title un... Nov 10 2009, 11:00 PM
comncents Hi
There was no problem with the thread title un... Nov 11 2009, 09:05 AM
RedRatSnake Hi
I'll let ya know right now i never even ... Nov 10 2009, 11:11 PM
PunkMaister Hi
I'll let ya know right now i never even ... Nov 10 2009, 11:23 PM
RedRatSnake Hi
Well then, Thank you very much and carry on ... Nov 11 2009, 12:06 AM
Furious_George I believe that episode was the last of season 3 fo... Nov 11 2009, 05:25 AM
MYM I am a fan of the show. I can see how Josh Gate... Nov 11 2009, 06:13 AM
Sasquat.ch I am a fan of the show. I can see how Josh Gate... Nov 11 2009, 06:31 AM
Gambit I found a reference from the 1920's, from a gr... Nov 11 2009, 07:27 PM
bipedalist Thought it was interesting that they found a ... Nov 11 2009, 08:37 PM![]() ![]() |
|
Lo-Fi Version | Time is now: 9th February 2010 - 11:00 AM |