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post May 21 2009, 11:23 PM
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http://www.tulsaworld.com/news/article.asp..._0_HNBASm531585
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Researchers to scour SE Oklahoma for Bigfoot

By SUSAN HYLTON, World Staff Writer - Published: 5/21/2009 10:36 PM
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Researchers with Mid-America Bigfoot Research Center set a cast of a footprint of what they say may be a Bigfoot, about a year ago during an expedition near Chelsea. From left are Roy McClish, Todd Bunton, Dave Ganote and Randy Harrington.

HONOBIA — Some 25 to 30 researchers will be braving the southeastern Oklahoma woods this weekend in search of the reclusive but infamous Bigfoot.

The Kiamichi Mountains provide the apelike creature a habitat that’s rich with deer, berries, honeysuckle and plenty of woodsy cover, believers say.

“You could hide an army in there and never know it,” said D.W. Lee of Stilwell, the global director of the Mid-America Bigfoot Research Center.

Last October in Honobia, the researchers saw “eye shine” from a creature standing about 8 feet tall, but not the red-beady kind.

“They would get close enough that the camp fire would shine in their eyes and it would show green,” Lee said.

Like ghost hunters, the Bigfoot researchers will be equipped with night vision goggles and scopes, along with an array of audio and video equipment. They will record hours of footage from the trail for viewing after their trip.

Lee said the creatures typically throw rocks at them when they’re sitting around a camp fire.

“If they wanted to hit you, they would. It’s like they just want to see how you’ll react. Other times you may get in areas where you’re not welcome. If you’re close to the little ones — the young Bigfoot — they’re going to make sure you leave,” Lee said.

The only time Lee said he became fearful in the woods was during a Chelsea trip.

“I saw three groups of Bigfoot going across a field in front of me,” he said.

About a year ago, they poured a cast of a footprint believed to be Bigfoot about 15 inches
long and 5 feet wide in Chelsea. They’ve photographed footprints along logging roads in the Kiamichi Mountains. The fine dirt makes it easy to see the tracks.

Mountain-area natives and Sasquatch-track followers are familiar with the creature’s distinctive screams and whoops.

Lee said Bigfoot is intelligent and can mimic the sounds of other animals.

“We do hear a lot of owl calls, but you can tell it’s not an owl because it’s like an 800-pound owl hooting at you,” Lee said.

About five years ago, Lee’s group received a report from a man hunting deer in a tree stand in the Kiamichi Mountains. It seems his pager went off and after he turned it off he heard something in the woods mimicking the beep-beep sounds of the pager.

“When he turned around he saw Bigfoot standing there. His words were that it was a 'big something’ that he just didn’t want no part of,” Lee said.

Perhaps Jane Goodall gives skeptics some pause. In a 2002 interview with National Public Radio, Goodall said she believes the creature could possibly exist. She said she based it on Native Americans she’d spoken with who all describe the same sounds and their reports of two sightings. There are also books written from all over the world about the unknown animal.

Some have shot down Bigfoot sightings in Oklahoma as actually black bear sightings. Lee said that unlike black bears, Bigfoot walks upright exclusively and at seven to eight feet are much taller than black bears.

Lee is a network administrator.

“We’re not just a bunch of country hicks,” he said.

Hundreds attend the Honobia Bigfoot Festival and Conference each year. This year it will be held Oct. 2-3 and sponsored by the Talihina Chamber of Commerce.
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post May 22 2009, 04:02 AM
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"I saw three groups of Bigfoot going across a field in front of me,"


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"We're not just a bunch of country hicks,"


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post May 22 2009, 07:05 AM
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Another stellar interview for the bigfoot community. If we'd stop throwing in what we think and stick to what we have we'd give better interviews.
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post May 22 2009, 07:13 AM
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Like ghost hunters, the Bigfoot researchers will be equipped with night vision goggles and scopes, along with an array of audio and video equipment. They will record hours of footage from the trail for viewing after their trip.


I didn't know you could see a ghost with night vision goggles? I never saw any BF or ghosts all the hours I wore them
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QUOTE(Pywacket @ May 22 2009, 04:02 AM) *
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many claims, no proof, blahblahblahblah...


QUOTE(Teresa @ May 22 2009, 07:05 AM) *
Another stellar interview for the bigfoot community. If we'd stop throwing in what we think and stick to what we have we'd give better interviews.



bingo T, maybe actually find something first.
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post May 22 2009, 07:54 AM
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hey researchers good late morning wow very interesting new article about the oklahoma bigfoot. thanks bill smile.gif
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post May 22 2009, 09:06 AM
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"Like ghost hunters, the Bigfoot researchers will be equipped with night vision goggles and scopes, along with an array of audio and video equipment. They will record hours of footage from the trail for viewing after their trip."

"“I saw three groups of Bigfoot going across a field in front of me,” he said."

but you didnt take a picture or get any video with that "array of video equipment, whatever

"Some have shot down Bigfoot sightings in Oklahoma as actually black bear sightings. Lee said that unlike black bears, Bigfoot walks upright exclusively and at seven to eight feet are much taller than black bears."

however DriverOperator repeatedly told us they would come up to his truck on
all fours, again whatever.


“We’re not just a bunch of country hicks,” he said

not the phrase I was thinking

ok I done,

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post May 22 2009, 10:22 AM
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Same story, same newspaper, with a different headline, different photo, and a different link!
http://www.tulsaworld.com/news/article.asp...A11_Thisca98885
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Researchers to hunt Bigfoot
They will scour the Kiamichi Mountains this weekend.


By SUSAN HYLTON World Staff Writer - Published: 5/22/2009 2:24 AM - Last Modified: 5/22/2009 6:44 AM
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This cast, made about a year ago in Chelsea, is of a footprint that is about 15 inches long by 5 inches wide.

HONOBIA — Some 25 to 30 researchers will be braving the southeastern Oklahoma woods this weekend in search of the reclusive Bigfoot.

The Kiamichi Mountains provide the apelike creature a habitat that's rich with deer, berries, honeysuckle and plenty of woodsy cover, believers say.

"You could hide an army in there and never know it," said D.W. Lee of Stilwell, global director of the Mid-America Bigfoot Research Center.

In October in Honobia, the researchers saw "eye shine" from a creature standing about 8 feet tall, he said.

"They would get close enough that the campfire would shine in their eyes and it would show green," Lee said.

Like ghost hunters, the Bigfoot researchers will be equipped with night-vision goggles and scopes, along with an array of audio and video equipment. They will record hours of footage from the trail for viewing after their trip.

Lee said the creatures typically throw rocks at them when they're sitting around a campfire.

"If they wanted to hit you, they would," he said. "It's like they just want to see how you'll react. Other times you may get in areas where you're not welcome. If you're close to the little ones — the young Bigfoot — they're going to make sure you leave."

The only time Lee said he became fearful in the woods was during a trip to the Chelsea area in northeastern Oklahoma.

"I saw three groups of Bigfoot going across a field in front of me," he said.

About a year ago
in the Chelsea area, the researchers poured a cast of a footprint, 15 inches long and 5 inches wide, that they believe was made by a Bigfoot.

They've photographed other footprints along logging roads in the Kiamichi Mountains of southeastern Oklahoma.

Mountain-area natives and Sasquatch-track followers are familiar with what they say are the creature's distinctive screams and whoops.

Lee said Bigfoot is intelligent and can mimic the sounds of other animals.

"We do hear a lot of owl calls, but you can tell it's not an owl because it's like an 800-pound owl hooting at you," he said.

About five years ago, Lee's group received a report from a man hunting deer in a tree stand in the Kiamichi Mountains. It seems that his pager went off, and after he turned it off, he heard something in the woods mimicking its beep-beep sounds.

"When he turned around, he saw Bigfoot standing there," Lee said. "His words were that it was a 'big something' that he just didn't want no part of."

Perhaps Jane Goodall gives skeptics some pause.

In a 2002 interview with National Public Radio, the primatologist said she believes that the creature could exist. She said she based that assessment on descriptions given to her by American Indians, who reported two sightings and described sounds they'd heard.

Some people have dismissed Bigfoot sightings in Oklahoma as actually black bear sightings. But unlike bears, Lee said, a Bigfoot walks upright exclusively and — at 7 to 8 feet tall — is much taller than a black bear.

"We're not just a bunch of country hicks," said Lee, a network administrator.

Hundreds of people attend the Honobia Bigfoot Festival and Conference each year. This year it will be held Oct. 2-3 and sponsored by the Talihina Chamber of Commerce.
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post May 22 2009, 10:35 AM
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hey tugboatwa wow ty for the above update new article about the oklahoma sasquatch research. bill new_specool.gif
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“We do hear a lot of owl calls, but you can tell it’s not an owl because it’s like an 800-pound owl hooting at you,” Lee said.



If you don't see the "800-pound" owl hooting at you, then it's just a regular owl. Good grief! rolleyes2.gif
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post May 23 2009, 08:14 AM
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The whole "that's no owl" thing has been an issue with this group for some time. Just an observation.

I think they need to focus more on simply going owling during their trips to better learn the sounds of the night. Maybe these links will help if any of their members visit these pages.

The Arcane Art of Owling

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post May 23 2009, 02:23 PM
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http://www.upi.com/Odd_News/2009/05/22/Res...82301243014936/ hey researchers here a brand new update article about the oklahoma sasquatch research i thought you all might injoy reading it. good afternoon. bill new_specool.gif
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Here's the latest in this drama. From the comments section after this article in the Tulsa World.

Report Comment bullet maker, Chelsea (5/24/2009 4:46:10 AM) OK, OK, enough is enough. I`m the one whose property this mabrc, has been bigfoot hunting on up here in Chelse. From the git-go, me and some of my friends, have been hoaxing these group of hunters from the day we first meet them, by faking the foot tracks, and hollering in the woods at night, to scare them. (course we hid behind trees, in case they went to shooting in the dark. We had alot of fun with these guys, watching them as they ran to their trucks to hide when we went to screaming and beating on trees. But now the joke has gotten out of hand, and these Idiots, have taken it to far by putting it in the paper. So all you good people of Tuls, this is the true story, THERE ARE NO BIGFOOTS OUT HERE AND NEVER HAVE.

The owner.


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hey pywacket omg.gif are you totaly serious of what you said in your above reply if yes i feel like i lost friends sad.gif updates as this continues icon_bang.gif
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Bill, I am just posting what was written. scratchhead.gif
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If this is the real Bulletmaker, it's a pretty big about face. Even though his
story was pretty well sliced and diced here, it's a surprising admission after
"20 years of Bigfoot activity". No proof after all this time of course.
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post May 25 2009, 10:18 PM
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QUOTE(Pywacket @ May 26 2009, 03:51 AM) *
Bill, I am just posting what was written. scratchhead.gif

hey pywacket i understand just alittle disapointed & hurt & confuesed now scratchhead.gif
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QUOTE(Pywacket @ May 25 2009, 09:45 PM) *
Here's the latest in this drama. From the comments section after this article in the Tulsa World.

Report Comment bullet maker, Chelsea (5/24/2009 4:46:10 AM) OK, OK, enough is enough. I`m the one whose property this mabrc, has been bigfoot hunting on up here in Chelse. From the git-go, me and some of my friends, have been hoaxing these group of hunters from the day we first meet them, by faking the foot tracks, and hollering in the woods at night, to scare them. (course we hid behind trees, in case they went to shooting in the dark. We had alot of fun with these guys, watching them as they ran to their trucks to hide when we went to screaming and beating on trees. But now the joke has gotten out of hand, and these Idiots, have taken it to far by putting it in the paper. So all you good people of Tuls, this is the true story, THERE ARE NO BIGFOOTS OUT HERE AND NEVER HAVE.

The owner.


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Judging from the above, this guy has a pretty idiosyncratic way of writing. Is the poor grammar (NEVER HAVE instead of NEVER HAS BEEN) and spelling typical of him?

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QUOTE(LondonPaul @ May 26 2009, 10:53 AM) *
Judging from the above, this guy has a pretty idiosyncratic way of writing. Is the poor grammar (NEVER HAVE instead of NEVER HAS BEEN) and spelling typical of him?


It was him.
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post May 26 2009, 12:23 PM
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this is getting very depressing indeed cmon i see postive debate opinions about this expedition ok sad.gif new_specool.gif bill
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The bullet Maker comment? Does this guy realize he has shot himself in the foot here.....
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DW's words (on JREF) exactly, cowboyman.

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QUOTE(cowboyman @ May 26 2009, 12:28 PM) *
The bullet Maker comment? Does this guy realize he has shot himself in the foot here.....


Who knows? But any credibility that he did have is now shot to pieces (to continue to shooting metaphor).

The shame is that if, sometime in the future, he did find genuine evidence, few would believe him. The same goes for all hoaxers.
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The comment was made by the one and only genuine bullet maker, as near as I can tell.

How do you know when a liar who says he's lying is telling a lie?
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QUOTE(peregrine @ May 26 2009, 02:54 PM) *
How do you know when a liar who says he's lying is telling a lie?


Man! A triple negative - My head aches just thinking about that one! blink.gif
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On one hand he says there has never been a bigfoot sighted on his property,, then in other statements says he has lot's of activity....Which untruth are we to believe?

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QUOTE(JayleeD @ May 23 2009, 07:22 AM) *
If you don't see the "800-pound" owl hooting at you, then it's just a regular owl. Good grief! rolleyes2.gif


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QUOTE(Pywacket @ May 25 2009, 10:45 PM) *
Here's the latest in this drama. From the comments section after this article in the Tulsa World.

Report Comment bullet maker, Chelsea (5/24/2009 4:46:10 AM) OK, OK, enough is enough. I`m the one whose property this mabrc, has been bigfoot hunting on up here in Chelse. From the git-go, me and some of my friends, have been hoaxing these group of hunters from the day we first meet them, by faking the foot tracks, and hollering in the woods at night, to scare them. (course we hid behind trees, in case they went to shooting in the dark. We had alot of fun with these guys, watching them as they ran to their trucks to hide when we went to screaming and beating on trees. But now the joke has gotten out of hand, and these Idiots, have taken it to far by putting it in the paper. So all you good people of Tuls, this is the true story, THERE ARE NO BIGFOOTS OUT HERE AND NEVER HAVE.

The owner.


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A lot of folks have been killed by a bullet after thinking they were safe hiding behind a tree. rolleyes2.gif


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