Man snaps pics of sasquatch footprints, Sasquatch footprints in Moricetown, BC... Options

[CuriousJ]

I heard about this on a local radio show this morning - don't see it being discussed anywhere yet, but apologies if I missed another thread about it. There are 3 photos. He also claims to have a hair sample.

Man snaps pictures of 'sasquatch footprints' in northern B.C.

Man snaps pictures of 'Sasquatch Footprints'in Northern B.C.

By Ian Austin, The ProvinceMarch 12, 2009

Brian Vike believes he has photographic evidence that sasquatches exist.

No, he doesn’t have a photo of a sasquatch, but he does have a photo of a very large footprint.

The Houston, B.C.-based UFO researcher has developed a soft spot for the mythical furry creatures, and got an excited call last Sunday from the remote community of Moricetown.

“I made the 90-minute drive up there, and I was amazed at what I saw,” Vike told The Province. “I’ve been on some of those turkey runs, when there’s nothing to see.

“But there were footprints, 17-and-a-half inches in length, that went on for a long ways.

“The stride is three feet six inches from the front of the foot to the back of the heel.”

More tellingly for Vike, the snow around the prints was untouched.

“There were no tracks around to show that somebody was trying to pull a gag.”

Vike, who tracks UFO sightings, got even more excited when he found blood in one of the prints.

“I’m sending it off for testing in Saskatchewan and Ohio. We also have a hair sample.”

Sasquatches are allegedly ape-like beings that apparently are quite shy, since they don’t seem to interact with humans much.

Like the yeti and the ogopogo, sightings are frequently reported, but no conclusive proof of their existence has ever been found.

On the other hand, conclusive proof that they do not exist does not exist.

iaustin@theprovince.com

This post has been edited by tugboatwa: Mar 13 2009, 09:00 AM

Reason for edit: to merge the two threads & to add the entire story

[Bitter Monk]

You know this alleged sasquatch print...



sure looks a lot like this non-sasquatch (grouse) print.

[CuriousJ]

Wow, that grouse sure has big feet!

[RedRatSnake]

Hi

I look at them and see no packed snow at all, If it was a BF i would think the tracks would be compressed and left some sort of an impression,

Peace
Tim

[Smitty]

This was on the top of the front page of today's Province, story was on page 3:

http://www.theprovince.com/travel/snaps+pi...8636/story.html

There are a few photos of individual tracks, but no pics of the trackway. Anyone know how to contact Brian Vike, and ask if he wants to share?

Smitty

[kanetaker5566]

Looks like a baby godzilla walked through the woods.

[RedRatSnake]

Hi

Looks like ~ CuriousJ ~ Beat ya too the punch * Smitty *

http://www.bigfootforums.com/index.php?sho...mp;#entry522146

Peace
Tim

[Smitty]

Doh!

At least I put mine in the MEDIA forum!



Smitty

[Smitty]

Hi, sorry I'm late...I was busy starting a thread in the MEDIA section.

I think I would reserve judgement until I see photos of the trackway.

Anyone know how to contact this guy, and see if he wants to stop in and show us his other pictures?

Smitty

[vilnoori]

Looks like snowshoe hare tracks to me. The imprint is not compacted enough. It doesn't even look like a proper hominoid foot. I agree, the blood sample will probably come back as "hare" or "bird." Darn. Why do these guys fall for this? It does nothing for the field's reputation. And why contact the news people until the samples are tested? Hmmf.

[bigfootnis]

being a footprint in the snow, i do not think it is very informative. That one of the better aspects of the MQ show last night that explainted how prints in snow degrade and become larger vs. prints in dirt.

[CuriousJ]

You got me there...I honestly went back on forth on where to post that!

[RedRatSnake]

Hi

What ! ! I fully expected a knock out yelling and screaming type fight over who had the better thread selection spot, Instead we get cooperation and total friendliness, Well don't that beat all Maybe one of you guys can shoot off a mail to one of the Mods and Join these two up

Peace
Tim

[CuriousJ]

I don't understand why the guy would comment on the length of the trackway and then not take any pics of it. And why would somebody call a UFO researcher to check out BF prints? If I saw strange lights in the sky I wouldn't call Dr. Meldrum.

[billgreen2005big...]

hey researchers wow this very interesting new article about possible sasquatch footprints being found indeed. the footprints in photos do look very interesting but more research needs to done the forest location with game cams or cameras. please keep me updated ok. great new thread as well

[hopeful]

I don't understand why the guy would comment on the length of the trackway and then not take any pics of it. And why would somebody call a UFO researcher to check out BF prints? If I saw strange lights in the sky I wouldn't call Dr. Meldrum.

CJ, I've wondered that before. Apparently, reporting BF to UFO researchers is the customary thing to do in Canada. (And a picture of the trackway would have been really nice.)

Hi

I look at them and see no packed snow at all, If it was a BF i would think the tracks would be compressed and left some sort of an impression,

Peace
Tim

So ... Timmy ... (and vil, and Bitter Monk, and bigfootnis) you're saying this might not be a sasquatch at all!?!??! Dadgummit!

[Bobby Orangeboom]

I wonder if having a look at those Track discovered by the 2 Amish Guys in 08 would make a difference ??

They were within 10 miles of these..

[Smitty]

About the lack of trackway photos...

Remember, these are only the photos that the Province (Canwest Media) decided to buy from the photographer. Their reasons for choosing them have little to do with what would be valuable to BF researchers, or even those knowledgeable about what has value to researchers.

My guess about 'why call the UFO guy':


He investigates other phenomena considered 'strange'. People who have no interest in these things probably think we all believe in sasquatch, chupacabra, UFOs and the Bermuda Triangle. He said in the article that he does field a few reports a year...My guess is that someone searched 'unexplained phenomena' on the web, and got him as a local hit...Or someone suggested him, knowing he had been out to look into other reports in the area.

If no one else will, I'll try and give him a heads up and see if he'll drop by and share any more information or photos with us. I would be interested in knowing what labs he sent samples to, how they were handled, and when he expects results. Often, we see these sample cases fade, and never get to hear the details.

Smitty

[Smitty]

Here is the e mail I sent to Brian Vike, the UFO investigator and photographer:

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Hi Brian.

My name is Greg Smithwick. I live and work in Gibsons, BC, on the Sunshine Coast, and am a member of The Bigfoot Forum, a large and comprehensive sasquatch discussion group on the web.

I saw your photos of the tracks in The Province today. Two threads are now listed at The Bigfoot Forum regarding the photos and article. As you can imagine, the membership is very interested in getting more information if you'd care to provide it.

The thread to visit is this one:

Bigfoot Forum thread regarding the Province article

I believe you will have to register to post, and you may need a mod to enable picture posting.

The questions developing:

Did you take any pictures of the trackway, showing more than one print at a time?

Do you have any suspicions about what caused the blood? Was there evidence that whatever left the prints was injured nearby?

What exactly did you collect, how was it handled, what kind of tests are being performed, and when do you expect results?

The article mentioned that you have fielded a few other sasquatch sightings...Do you have a record of them that we could look at, and do you work with any of the sasquatch investigators working here in BC?

If you'd rather not share info with a forum, I would love an e mail back. You will find the BFF crowd open-minded, if somewhat cautious in our enthusiasm. If you do stop by, expect some pointed questions...But as a UFO investigator and web site guy, I am sure you know what to expect.

Thanks,

Greg 'Smitty' Smithwick
Bigfoot Forum Busybody

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

P.S.: I thought about linking to the other thread just to be funny , but this is the one!

[Furious_George]

Good questions Smitty.
I would edit your name out of that post if you wanted to stay out of search engines. Although, this forum would be a shiny star on any resume.

[Smitty]

Thanks, FJ, but it's all good.

What's the fun of Googling oneself, if there's no hits?

I haven't done it in awhile, but I used to get info about my radio career and a photo credit for a WW2 veterans group.

Smitty

[billgreen2005big...]

hey researchers WOW......these footprints are realy makin alot headlines indeed i hope i see more continueing comments about the prints & research study of the forest area etc. keep me posted ok

[Teroy]

Hi Smitty,
I'm located in Sechelt. If you ever want to chat call 5-3925.

[CuriousJ]

What ! ! I fully expected a knock out yelling and screaming type fight over who had the better thread selection spot, Instead we get cooperation and total friendliness, Well don't that beat all Maybe one of you guys can shoot off a mail to one of the Mods and Join these two up

You want a fight? I can start a fight if you want.

HEY, WHO MERGED **MY** BIGFOOT THREAD???? AND WHY DID YOU PUT IT IN MEDIA???? HUH???? OF ALL THE NERVE!!!!

(How was that?)

If no one else will, I'll try and give him a heads up and see if he'll drop by and share any more information or photos with us. I would be interested in knowing what labs he sent samples to, how they were handled, and when he expects results. Often, we see these sample cases fade, and never get to hear the details.

Thanks for contacting the guy - I hope you hear back from him. Oh, and thanks for the explanation of why Canadians lump BF'ers with UFO researchers, too.

[Smitty]

Heh...Thread moved to MEDIA, where it belonged!

Not sure that applies just to Canadians, though. Was also my experience in Florida...Once people find out I am interested in bigfoot, they send me links to EVERY Chupacabra story they find!

[RedRatSnake]

HEY, WHO MERGED **MY** BIGFOOT THREAD???? AND WHY DID YOU PUT IT IN MEDIA???? HUH???? OF ALL THE NERVE!!!!

(How was that?)

Hi

You handled that very well Even after the thread got moved into Media and ~ Smitty ~ Got a laugh out of it

Peace
Tim

[billgreen2005big...]

hey redrat this thread is realy getting interesting about footprints. i hope people can contact the person who took the photos of tracks to more info etc. keep me updated..

[CuriousJ]

Hi

You handled that very well Even after the thread got moved into Media and ~ Smitty ~ Got a laugh out of it

Peace
Tim

Hey, if I made Smitty laugh then my life has not been without purpose.

However, I have decided - as a result of this horrible incident in which my confidence as an armchair BF researcher has been shattered to the core - to start my own BF discussion board where I am in complete control of where all the posts go!

[Smitty]

Hey, good luck with that!

Just remember to ruthlessly CRUSH any opinions that don't agree with yours!

I am told that's how the ''scientific bigfoot research organization" does it.

Smitty

[GrandCherokee]

I would not advise you to hold your breath waiting to hear more about this then you already have. His investigations have yet to come up with anything of substance. He just enjoys his name in the papers! (I am sure that many of you have already figured that out!)

[Smitty]

You KNOW you are part of the fringe element when the UFO people won't return your calls!

[tugboatwa]

Thought I would drop in a note as to why the two threads were merged.

IMO, all newspaper stories that are Bigfoot or Sasquatch related belong in the Sub-Forum of News and Magazine Articles. Please do not post them under General Discussion. It makes it easier for Forum members to search for postings if they know where to look for them.

I have moved it to the proper location (again, in IMO).

[tugboatwa]

http://www.princegeorgecitizen.com/2009031...-discovery.html

Sasquatch expert following footprint discovery

Written by Mark Nielsen - Citizen staff, Thursday, 12 March 2009

The discovery of what may be evidence of a sasquatch near Moricetown has caught the eye of a local expert.

Leo Selzer says the photos of very large footprints posted on a website by fellow sasquatch researcher Brian Vike "hardly do justice to what you look at in real life," but are similar to what he's come across.

"The measurements coincide, the stride coincides, the general physical appearance of the footprints coincides with other evidence that I have found," Selzer said.

Vike, who lives in Houston and is also a UFO enthusiast, drove out to Moricetown, about 430 km. west of Prince George, after receiving an e-mail from someone who came across the footprints on Monday morning after strange noises were heard out in the dark the evening before.

Along with taking the photos, Vike collected some samples of blood and hair that he plans to send off for testing.

After a handful of strange encounters over the years, particularly in the Gregg Creek area, Selzer is now convinced the creature is more than mythical.
He has set up his own web site, www.sasquatch-pg.net, to share his knowledge and collect stories from others more reluctant to tell them to others for fear of getting strange looks in return.

Vike's sasquatch website is found at http://bigfoot-sasquatch.blogspot.com.

Selzer maintains people have come across sasquatches and did not even know it, incorrectly identifying them as bears. There have been times when it's been the other way around.

"I've had people come to me and say 'hey, look, I've just photographed some tremendous sasquatch footprints, come and take a look at them,' and they've turned out to be very large grizzly bear tracks," Selzer said.

What's the difference between a grizzly track and a sasquatch track?

A lack of claw marks is a good first sign it's not a bear, but Selzer added a sasquatch footprint resembles a small child's.

"You know how the foot of a four-year-old child is kind of boxy looking and from the big toe to the little toe it doesn't have as much of a slant as an adult's? That's very much what a sasquatch footprint looks like," Selzer said.

Contrary to popular belief, the size of a sasquatch print can be as little as four to five inches long in the case of the youngsters old enough to walk, although the large males' are as much as 18 inches and 16 inches in the case of the females.

They are very family oriented,

Selzer added, so the footprints are can be found in groups of various sizes although the young adults without mates often travel alone.
What's the difference between a human footprint and a sasquatch's?

"Sasquatches don't have an arch," he said. "They have additional joints within the foot so they have a flat foot that's capable of wrapping around things better than the human foot with an arch."

However, they're still a far cry from an ape or chimpanzee.

"Sasquatches are not able to grab things with their foot anymore than a human," he said.

Because of job commitments, Selzer hasn't been able to get out to search for more evidence but when he gets the chance he plans to establish contact with a family he believes is roaming around the Gregg Creek area.