"Don't rule out the Yeti", says Attenborough, article from the Telegraph newspaper. Options

[Paul1968UK]

Article on the front page of this morning's Telegraph newspaper - I couldn't find it on the on-line version.


"Don't rule out the Yeti", says Attenborough

Sir David Attenborough believes there is "very convincing" evidence that the Yeti exists.
Speaking on Friday Night With Jonathan Ross on BBC One, the wildlife expert said: "I'm baffled by the Abominable Snowman - very convincing footprints have been found at 19,000ft. No one does that for a joke. I think it's unanswered".





I'll try and track down a copy of last night's show and see what he actually said - the show is kind of the UK version of the Tonight show.

Sir David Attenborough of course hosted the 'Fabulous Animals' series in the UK in 1972, which was the last time the second reel of the Patterson film was seen. He is Britain's most respected wildlife presenter.

[nightlux]

hi peeps, last night watched a british talk show called tonight with jonathan ross,on it he had a very respected wild life person named sir david attenborogh, (for all you americans he is jurrasic parks sir richard attenborough the actors brother)
he believes that yetis and the like are very real heres a link you should watch from about 18: 44 you might have to copy and paste. all comments would be very gratefull.




http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b00hv...es_16_Episode_6

[bipedalist]

Seems you have to have an IP address within the UK to access that particular programme.

[micahn]

Here it is online
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/showb...icle2281623.ece

Yeti evidence is 'convincing' says wildlife expert Sir David Attenborough

By Sara Nelson
Last updated at 1:22 AM on 01st March 2009

Speaking on Friday Night With Jonathan Ross, the revered wildlife expert said: 'I'm baffled by the Abominable Snowman - very convincing footprints have been found at 19,000ft.

'No-one does that for a joke. I think it's unanswered.'

The yeti is an ape-like creature said to inhabit the Himalayan region of Nepal and Tibet.

A photograph of a mysterious footprint, rumoured to be that of the yeti was taken in the Menlung Basin in the Himalayas in 1951.

A team of mountaineers travelled to the region on a reconnaissance mission before attempting to conquer Everest for the first time, a feat achieved two years later.

Eric Shipton recorded the footprint, and Tom Bourdillon, passing on the evidence to his friend Michael Davies, wrote: 'Dear Mick, Here are the footprint photos: sorry for the delay. We came across them on a high pass on the Nepal-Tibet watershed during the 1951 Everest expedition.

'They seemed to have come over a secondary pass at about 19,500 ft, down to 19,000 ft where we first saw them, and then went on down the glacier.'

In 1954, the Daily Mail reported the discovery of hair specimens from what was said to be the scalp of a yeti.

Professor Frederick Woods Jones, an expert in human and comparative anatomy, failed to reach a conclusion, but said the dark brown hair was not from a bear or an anthropoid (manlike) ape.

Alleged sightings and debate has continued through the decades - but so far no-one has been able to produce a clear, definitive photograph of the world's most elusive being.

Tibetan folklore has it that the yeti is nocturnal, whistles, and can kill with a single punch.

Investigators believe that at least two types of yeti exist: the dzu-teh ('big thing'), which is 7ft-8ft tall, and the nich-teh, which is 5ft-6ft

Sir David also spoke about not being able to halt climate change.

He said: 'We can never go back, there's no doubt about that... it's the speed at which we're changing.

'Before, it was thousands of years and now it's decades... but we can slow down the rate at which we change.'

This post has been edited by tugboatwa: Feb 28 2009, 08:19 PM

Reason for edit: to add the complete story

[billgreen2005big...]

very interesting new article about the yeti. thanks bill

[maxx]

Skeptic response

I disagree with Evan's initial response that Attenborough's logic is flawed. He never states conclusively he believes Yeti exists, only that it makes a fascinating possibility. I believe the skeptics have made an error in logic by assuming Attenborough is solely referring to the Shipton photograpah as the only evidence. Are there not other high altitude footprint evidence in the Himalayas? I'm not sure.

[nightlux]

Skeptic response

I disagree with Evan's initial response that Attenborough's logic is flawed. He never states conclusively he believes Yeti exists, only that it makes a fascinating possibility. I believe the skeptics have made an error in logic by assuming Attenborough is solely referring to the Shipton photograpah as the only evidence. Are there not other high altitude footprint evidence in the Himalayas? I'm not sure.

if you watched the whole of the interveiw with mr ross, attenborough would make a program on it so how is it flawed
dont forget the questions they ask on interviews are all ready disscused before they air the same with movie stars no t.v person is going to make themselves look silly A SKEPTICS, SKEPTICAL response.


p.s skeptics are skeptics for the sake of being a skeptic.

[BobZenor]

Thanks Maxx, that was very informative. The skeptic seemed worried that Attenborough might give some argument to the bigfoot cause. That isn't a skeptical attitude but the position of a partisan that has already made up his mind. The Shipton photos are very hard to just explain away. They look like a very unusual yet like plausible footprints of some bipedal ape. I have never seen the same footprints in another sighting which is quite damning but there is a very long history in the region of a creature called the Yeti. The footprints if real, are probably not something closely related to bigfoot. The toes are totally different. It really doesn't relate to bigfoot and if they are genuine, it really doesn't change much in the equations that determines if bigfoot is real. It is just a real head scratcher like Attenborough said in a different way.

[nightlux]

Thanks Maxx, that was very informative. The skeptic seemed worried that Attenborough might give some argument to the bigfoot cause. That isn't a skeptical attitude but the position of a partisan that has already made up his mind. The Shipton photos are very hard to just explain away. They look like a very unusual yet like plausible footprints of some bipedal ape. I have never seen the same footprints in another sighting which is quite damning but there is a very long history in the region of a creature called the Yeti. The footprints if real, are probably not something closely related to bigfoot. The toes are totally different. It really doesn't relate to bigfoot and if they are genuine, it really doesn't change much in the equations that determines if bigfoot is real. It is just a real head scratcher like Attenborough said in a different way.

if you are thinking im a skeptic i was taking the mick

[wickie]

if you are thinking im a skeptic i was taking the mick

[nightlux]

wickie to be honest i wasnt sure myself it was the bit where he said the skeptic

[wickie]

wickie to be honest i wasnt sure myself it was the bit where he said the skeptic

[BobZenor]

if you are thinking im a skeptic i was taking the mick

I was talking about the guy criticizing Attenborough for giving support to us bigfooters. I don't get that mick reference though.

[wickie]

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This post has been edited by wickie: Mar 18 2009, 09:35 PM

[RedRatSnake]

Hi

Taking the Mick ! You guys just need to be a bit more up to speed with the Old World dialog, Across the pond and such, Double dealing and politics, Taking the Mick is the easy way out of not taking a real position, Kinda like going with the crowd or who's popular and when they go down jumping ship and hanging your old friends

Peace
Tim

[wickie]

OH, Leave it to those over there to butcher the English language
Thanks Tim!