Vocalizations, or other associated sounds Options

[RiverRun]

I'm curious how many sightings there are of sasquatch making any vocalizations, or other associated sounds like wood knocking. Does anyone have information regarding this? Has anyone on this board ever seen a sasquatch vocalize or tree knock? How did tree knocking get associated with the bigfoot phenomenon?


I'm also curious about the "samurai chatter" that is often associated with sasqusatch. Has anyone witnessed this? (meaning, seeing them do this, not just hearing audible sounds of such)

[hopeful]

There is an interesting vocalization article by Alicia Bateman on the TBRC website, but she doesn't mention a sasquatch actually being seen making these vocalizations.

[wickie]

Sometimes I wonder about that kind of "evidence". All kind of sounds out in the woods. Unless someone actually see's what made the noise, could be anything

[RedRatSnake]

Hi

I liked that samurai chatter stuff and gave it some thought for a long time, In short the BF i think that is roaming around just could not possess the ability of speach . . . . Grunts and Groans with the possibility of being able to figure out 1,2,or 3 at best

Peace
Tim

[RiverRun]

Thanks for the link hopeful. ;-)


What I'm really trying to find is if there have been eye witnesses to these sounds, and if any reliable accountings are out there. I'm also trying to find out how woodknocking became associated with bigfoot, and if there have ever been any eye witnesses to this.


Can anyone recall the first time they heard something about woodknocking and bigfoot?

[peregrine]

I'm curious how many sightings there are of sasquatch making any vocalizations, or other associated sounds like wood knocking. Does anyone have information regarding this?

This report at the TBRC describes a witness observing a sasquatch making vocalizations.

[RiverRun]

This report at the TBRC describes a witness observing a sasquatch making vocalizations.

Thanks peregrine. I've seen that report a little while back. I'm attempting to find as many of these type of reports as possible, as well as I really want to find out who/what has brought "wood knocking" into associated bigfoot behavior. (as well as "samurai chatter") That report is a fairly detailed accounting of "whooping" being observed.


I'm hoping some of the long term enthusiasts/researchers may have some information as to the origin (or rather who reported it first) of these type of vocalizations and behavior. Especially so with wood knocks, and the samurai chatter. Does anyone know who associated wood knocks with the bigfoot phenomenon?

[southernyahoo]

Thanks peregrine. I've seen that report a little while back. I'm attempting to find as many of these type of reports as possible, as well as I really want to find out who/what has brought "wood knocking" into associated bigfoot behavior. (as well as "samurai chatter") That report is a fairly detailed accounting of "whooping" being observed.
I'm hoping some of the long term enthusiasts/researchers may have some information as to the origin (or rather who reported it first) of these type of vocalizations and behavior. Especially so with wood knocks, and the samurai chatter. Does anyone know who associated wood knocks with the bigfoot phenomenon?

In regards to wood knocks, I don't know who the first person to report it was. The first time I think I heard of wood knocking was probably when I first started getting into this research several years ago. I'd seen a program on TV where they called it stick beating, maybe it was on the Travel channel. It is also said to be well documented in the book " Raincoast Sasquatch" by Robert Alley.

I've heard and recorded single knocks like this on numerous occasions, and sometimes with a response knock from another direction.

The simple deduction is that it would require a pair of hands to whack a tree with a stick, and do it on command as with a response knock. This, in a researchers mind, tends to rule out alot of mundane sources in a hurry. Sometimes the idea of other humans being out there is the sole alternative.

Whoops............got those too.

Samari Chatter comes from the Sierra sounds CDs and they've been around for over thirty years. To my knowledge nobody has been able to get so many intriguing sounds from a single location of activity. I don't rule out the possibility of speech, but I'm sure that proving that they do is probably going to be one of the last things proven about bigfoot, and just before we accept the whole truth.

SY.

[bipedalist]

I don't have direct one-to-one associated sightings to go with chatter, but I believe I have recorded some sounds both before and after a sighting(separate nights) that are very suspicious of being grunts/chatter by these creatures. If T works it out, two .wav files may be posted in association with my interview by the LTB crew on Jan. 7. Am I sure they are squatch made?.....no. Am I sure some unknown bipedals were sighted within 60 ft. of where the recordings were made on another evening?.....yes.

This post has been edited by bipedalist: Dec 31 2008, 05:29 PM

[StacyInMI]

OMG, I can't wait to hear those!

[nightwing]

I don't have direct one-to-one associated sightings to go with chatter, but I believe I have recorded some sounds both before and after a sighting(separate nights) that are very suspicious of being grunts/chatter by these creatures. If T works it out, two .wav files may be posted in association with my interview by the LTB crew on Jan. 7. Am I sure they are squatch made?.....no. Am I sure some unknown bipedals were sighted within 60 ft. of where the recordings were made on another evening?.....yes.

I'm looking very forward to hearing these also!

[nightwing]

In regards to wood knocks, I don't know who the first person to report it was. The first time I think I heard of wood knocking was probably when I first started getting into this research several years ago. I'd seen a program on TV where they called it stick beating, maybe it was on the Travel channel. It is also said to be well documented in the book " Raincoast Sasquatch" by Robert Alley.

I've heard and recorded single knocks like this on numerous occasions, and sometimes with a response knock from another direction.

The simple deduction is that it would require a pair of hands to whack a tree with a stick, and do it on command as with a response knock. This, in a researchers mind, tends to rule out alot of mundane sources in a hurry. Sometimes the idea of other humans being out there is the sole alternative.

Whoops............got those too.

Samari Chatter comes from the Sierra sounds CDs and they've been around for over thirty years. To my knowledge nobody has been able to get so many intriguing sounds from a single location of activity. I don't rule out the possibility of speech, but I'm sure that proving that they do is probably going to be one of the last things proven about bigfoot, and just before we accept the whole truth.

SY.

SY, any chance we could hear your whoop recordings? In the last couple of years the vocal question has taken on new meaning for me, and I'm curious as to what others are hearing.

[Teresa]

I'll get those up on the LTB blog as quick as I can!

[bipedalist]

Not to rush. Just saw the thread and thought I'd share and add the recent development.

[southernyahoo]

SY, any chance we could hear your whoop recordings? In the last couple of years the vocal question has taken on new meaning for me, and I'm curious as to what others are hearing.

In this is recording you will hear 3 whoops, the first is very deep followed by a sharp higher pitched one, then a third about 5 to 10 seconds later. At the end you will hear a distant pack of coyotes get set off by the whoops.

 Whoops_5_04_08_0227hrs.mp3 ( 1.47mb ) Number of downloads: 128


This is another recording of the same event from a different recorder that was located closer to the coyotes and the third whoop gets drowned out by the coyotes due to the distance the sound had to travel before the coyotes started yelping.

 whoops_coyotes.mp3 ( 864.08k ) Number of downloads: 71


These sounds were recorded in a river bottom area about 75 miles west of the hog hunters experience in the TBRC report mentioned upthread. I've also had the pleasure of meeting with that witness and played these recordings for him. He said that these are very very similar to what he saw this creature make.

More of mine and many fellow independent researchers findings can be found here at www.texlaresearch.com

SY.

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[nightwing]

Thanks SY! Interesting!

[RiverRun]

Excellent southernyahoo. Thanks for the info about the book. This is the kind of stuff I'm looking for! ;-)


I've got a couple recordings of what I call "unidentified" vocalizations. I posted one a while back, but have never publically posted the other. (but have gotten several private opinions on it) The only thing that is different about it compared to some others is, it has a load roar/growl on it that I initially thought may have been a bear. I later did some research into it and discovered the black bears in the area don't really make this type of sound. Pretty interesting stuff.

[bipedalist]

Yeah, I've been given the "black bear" explanation before, it doesn't work for alot of what's out there. BTW if you could PM me that
sound file RiverRun you are shopping around I'd like to hear it. I'll send you an anonymous email when you reply that you can
send it to. Thanks, bipedalist

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[RiverRun]

Done bipedalist. If there is anyone else that does audio analysis of animal calls, I'd love to get some pro opinions on the recording. Feel free to post here and ask, or send me a PM.

[southernyahoo]

Excellent southernyahoo. Thanks for the info about the book. This is the kind of stuff I'm looking for! ;-)
I've got a couple recordings of what I call "unidentified" vocalizations. I posted one a while back, but have never publically posted the other. (but have gotten several private opinions on it) The only thing that is different about it compared to some others is, it has a load roar/growl on it that I initially thought may have been a bear. I later did some research into it and discovered the black bears in the area don't really make this type of sound. Pretty interesting stuff.

Your welcome RiverRun, That book is one good read and very comprehensive on sounds and behaviors attributed to bf in modern and historical accounts. Chapter 12 "Screams in the Forest" would be particularly interesting for you and I've found that quite similar sounds can be heard and recorded here in the south. When you say a load roar/ growl do you mean it is raspy? If you dont mind I'd like to hear it, I can do some cleanup work with sounds files, and can send you a spectrograph screen capture of what it looks like.

Bipedalist, I'm looking forward to your show on LTB, you've obviously had some profound experiences from what you've mentioned on the forum.

SY.

[bipedalist]

I'm working on uploading some sound files for Stan Courtney to host, thanks for all the sharing going on here SY, NW and RR, it helps to get some perspective on
some of these varying unknown sounds. I noticed Teresa already uploaded links to a few pics of mine that I'll be happy to answer questions about too on the LTB show
see: http://letstalkbigfoot.blogspot.com/
left side of page, click on the here link
to see enlarged pics.

[RiverRun]

Your welcome RiverRun, That book is one good read and very comprehensive on sounds and behaviors attributed to bf in modern and historical accounts. Chapter 12 "Screams in the Forest" would be particularly interesting for you and I've found that quite similar sounds can be heard and recorded here in the south. When you say a load roar/ growl do you mean it is raspy? If you dont mind I'd like to hear it, I can do some cleanup work with sounds files, and can send you a spectrograph screen capture of what it looks like.

Bipedalist, I'm looking forward to your show on LTB, you've obviously had some profound experiences from what you've mentioned on the forum.

SY.

I have a friend that has shared with me some portions of that book and I found it to be fairly interesting, although it still leaves a mystery of who reported some of these things first. Anything like that is very much appreciated though, and I agree that the sharing of findings/possible evidence is a great thing and can only lead us all into a more knowledgable place.


I appreciate you guys sharing your opinions and also the audio. There are some wonderful people involved with this research, the more we help each other, the more we share our findings the more heads there are to think on these things.


I'll send you a PM with a link to the original wav files, please do take a listen/look and let me know your opinions. I'd greatly appreciate that.

[RedRatSnake]

Hi

Bipedalist : I am curious about that large rock, When i go out looking for snakes i often lift large boulders, Is that one too heavy for a person to up right ? Were there any foot prints or similar around the rock, I sometimes need to grab onto a rock in different places to lift them and it makes quite a mess in the dirt

Thanks

Peace
Tim

[bipedalist]

Hi

Bipedalist : I am curious about that large rock, When i go out looking for snakes i often lift large boulders, Is that one too heavy for a person to up right ? Were there any foot prints or similar around the rock, I sometimes need to grab onto a rock in different places to lift them and it makes quite a mess in the dirt

Thanks

Peace
Tim

Tim until I crushed my fingers today I'd say me and two other fit male adults could have stood it on a 1 1/2 to three inch edge with difficulty. I tried to lift it off the ground yesterday with one arm and just fingers and couldn't get it to budge, I chop wood in my spare time and have real good forearm strength. It is one of those mysteries that keep me going, the area is pretty much not open enough for hoaxing in that particular zone. It is more that nothing could have stood it on edge because of the extreme weight and thinness of the edge. It stayed in that upright position for over a week before it fell on it's own as far as I know. No noticable tracks, checked for them, some possibly fingernail drags or scuffs as if something picking up salamanders nothing more.

[Dudlow]

Does anyone know who associated wood knocks with the bigfoot phenomenon?

If you Google 'Stick People' you'll get some references to Native American accounts of not only the stick formations we find all over the place but also the use of sticks for banging trees for signalling purposes - good old woodknocking. My guess is the NAs first put two and two together on this one, 'RiverRun'.
Dudlow

[bipedalist]

also stick indians

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[RedRatSnake]

some possibly fingernail drags or scuffs as if something picking up salamanders nothing more.

Hi

If there were marks under that rock it tells us that something lifted it for a reason right, I like the Salamander idea, I have lifted rocks and found up too a dozen sometimes, Well worth a decent quick meal,

Peace
Tim

[bipedalist]

Hi

If there were marks under that rock it tells us that something lifted it for a reason right, I like the Salamander idea, I have lifted rocks and found up too a dozen sometimes, Well worth a decent quick meal,

Peace
Tim

There were five or six rocks moved in that area, some could have been moved by a bear, several did not look like that was possible, this was definitely one of two in that class. My prime alternate candidate beside human prank (fisherman bait collector) was black bear, they, bb, do rock flipping generally though and not rock sliding or propping up. That being said I have found other rocks in the woods I could not pick up easily that had been flipped and rolled and you could not discern where they came from (and yes I know rock rolling is the state sport in colorado). I saw one in Utah that was altogether missing from a backwoods area encampment......now that is a trifle spooky when they weigh 40 or more pounds and are nowhere near traveled throughways. I never could collect 40 lb. rocks myself while backpacking, but there were many times I suspected my best bud had slipped a couple in my pack.

This post has been edited by bipedalist: Jan 2 2009, 10:08 PM