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[sosha]

I totally want one of these!

http://www.acecraftusa.com/

Can you imagine how much ground you could cover? I wonder how loud it is....man that would be sweet!

edited to add pics



This post has been edited by sosha: Oct 13 2008, 09:11 PM

[moregon]

TOO LOUD!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aTcNcA_zViw...feature=related

They sound like a Giant Weedwhacker!

[Ilikebluepez]

Just imagine you're skimming the tree tops and spot a little clearing in the woods.

You circle a little lower, causing a great big loudly irritating ruckus.

Suddendly you see a large brown arm reach up and snatch you right out of the air! Somebody's a little cranky to have been woken up so abruptly from his nappy time!



Fly high my friend, fly high.

[sosha]

Okay how about the Williams X-jet....



See it in action:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=isQkyfCLXQ0


Anyway....if they had this stuff way back then...why haven't they perfected it so we could all have one now?lol...of course the way some people drive....*shivers*...people would be smackin into each other and falling out of the sky...not good....but...dang I'd love to have one of these!

[JayleeD]

TOO LOUD!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aTcNcA_zViw...feature=related

They sound like a Giant Weedwhacker!

And just like a weedwhacker...it wouldn't start on the first dozen pulls. No way would I soar above the trees in something that you have to double choke to get it started.

Now, the Williams X-Jet, that thing is too cool! I'd smack a big pine tree but it would be a hoot until then!

[moregon]

This would probably be your best bet... however controlling your direction and speed may be a problem. I'd also choose a different color ensemble for stealth purposes.

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This post has been edited by moregon: Oct 15 2008, 07:40 PM

[Ilikebluepez]

Okay how about the Williams X-jet....



See it in action:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=isQkyfCLXQ0


Anyway....if they had this stuff way back then...why haven't they perfected it so we could all have one now?lol...of course the way some people drive....*shivers*...people would be smackin into each other and falling out of the sky...not good....but...dang I'd love to have one of these!

Ya, now your talking! I want one of those too!

I'd drive right, I promise....

No horsing around in one of those things....no air polo allowed...um, ya...I would never do that...

[JC Racing]

since my dad is a pilot, We scan all over the state at about 15000 feet in his helicopter. when i see something i sky dive out. I have spotted what looks like big foot about 4 times including groups of them.

[uffda320]

Why in the world do you fly so high in your helicopter? 15,000 feet in a helicopter seems excessive. You could get a better look at a lower altitude, I can't imagine you can spot anything at 15,000 feet. I'm thinking you're being a little fantastic with your story.

Sorry...I'm not buying it.

This post has been edited by uffda320: Nov 4 2008, 07:08 PM

[Ilikebluepez]

Maybe he needs the extra height to find the chute cord....

Just Kidding!

But I didn't realize it was common practice to jump out of helicopters. I'm no expert here, but it just seems odd.

[Squatchfoot]

Well some do jump out of choppers,especially in the military. If you recall the videos of Vietnam(The Helicopter war some call it),the troops would sometimes bail out at very low altitude. As for jumping out and parachuting..I have no idea whether that happens or not. I assume its possible but rotor wash and other factors would seem to make it a bit risky. Just my two cents..two cents is about all I know on this subject..LOL.

[911Guy]

JC please give us some more details.

[longtabber PE]

Well, ( as one who has done it frequently but not looking for BF) flying a copter at 15k while doing ground recon is a bit high ( you would have to have some serious optics to see a BF sized object at 3 MILES)

It is done tho but mainly for fixed installations or large troop movements ( that altitude has nothing to do with area coverage- but it places the bird out of range of massed small arms fire and SAMs- which are a copters worst enemies)

As far as jumping from a copter- its done every day.

By the time your chute canopies ( be it static line or freefall) you are well away from rotor wash and the birds collective.

I also would like to hear a few more details

[rockinkt]

I would like to hear how the FAA would look at this type of activity. From what I understand - you can't just decide to jump out of an aircraft without some sort of prior notification to ATC unless you are military or government sanctioned (wild fire smoke jumpers etc.).

edited to add - unless, of course, your aircraft is in trouble.

This post has been edited by rockinkt: Nov 11 2008, 02:52 AM

[Prehistoric Fish...]

JC appears to enjoy making joke posts. Several posts I've noticed by him seem to be of this variety (seeing BF driving a Humvee, etc.).

This post has been edited by Prehistoric Fisherman: Nov 11 2008, 01:54 PM

[longtabber PE]

I would like to hear how the FAA would look at this type of activity. From what I understand - you can't just decide to jump out of an aircraft without some sort of prior notification to ATC unless you are military or government sanctioned (wild fire smoke jumpers etc.).

edited to add - unless, of course, your aircraft is in trouble.

I asked a buddy of mine ( civilian jumpmaster) about this ( I've never done a civilian jump and never intend to) and heres what he told me.

He says the only FAA rules applying to parachuting are in regard to the chute standards, the plane ( radio/reporting accidents) and rigging. He says there is no "law' requiring anything beyond that but "most" jumpers/organizations follow the USPA guidelines ( which are not law) that require reporting to ATC.

I never would have believed that but he says theres literally nothing in the way of government regulation and he has never heard of any state law.

[Apeman]

Perhaps more effective?

[rockinkt]

I asked a buddy of mine ( civilian jumpmaster) about this ( I've never done a civilian jump and never intend to) and heres what he told me.

He says the only FAA rules applying to parachuting are in regard to the chute standards, the plane ( radio/reporting accidents) and rigging. He says there is no "law' requiring anything beyond that but "most" jumpers/organizations follow the USPA guidelines ( which are not law) that require reporting to ATC.

I never would have believed that but he says theres literally nothing in the way of government regulation and he has never heard of any state law.

Interesting - to say the least!

I think your friend is slightly wrong in that there are specific regulations regarding controlled airspace. These laws do not apply to military or authorized civilian organisations such as I mentioned.

My mistake was in applying FAA Section 105.13 to all airspace instead of just "controlled" airspace.
Since there are various levels of "controlled" airspace - I would think that there should be a little bit of thinking before one just jumped from any aircraft in any area.

http://www.parachuteshop.com/faa_part_105_...e_operation.dwt

[RedRatSnake]

Perhaps more effective?

Hi

That is a great link Apeman If you like remote control and whales check it out

Peace
Tim

[longtabber PE]

Interesting - to say the least!

I think your friend is slightly wrong in that there are specific regulations regarding controlled airspace. These laws do not apply to military or authorized civilian organisations such as I mentioned.

I fired another email asking him to specify and he told me he didnt think about controlled airspace because they never jump there. He said that the "definition" of controlled air space varies by each ATC so before they jump- they check it out locally.

He did tell me this ( I thought this odd but I guess we learn something new every day) that a drop zone that is designated on a map is also a controlled air space or if you call in and report to an ATC where you intend to drop- they will designate that a controlled space during your jump window. ( or either tell you when other craft will be crossing so you can adjust your jump window)

[vilnoori]

Wow, so cool. LT can you get him to give us more details on his sightings?

[longtabber PE]

Wow, so cool. LT can you get him to give us more details on his sightings?

Danny hasnt had any sightings- we were just discussing parachuting

[Fullybird]

'Controlled Airspace' also refers to aircraft restricted from flying below a certain altitude. For example, an artillery impact area would have controlled airspace above the maximum height of trajectory of an artillery or mortar round, with a buffer in between. I beleive the same applies to drop zones.

[rockinkt]

Thanks to Fully - I think I have just come up with a brilliant idea for another ESPN special:

"Extreme Parachuting" - where the contestants have to parachute onto a designated target while dodging high explosive artillary and mortar fire!


(Apologies to the 101st who I think actually invented the game back in WW2)

This post has been edited by rockinkt: Nov 17 2008, 05:19 AM

[sosha]

howsabout this little gizmo? Kinda cool!

http://www.hobby-lobby.com/fpv.htm

[Sean V]

I wonder how loud it is....man that would be sweet!

Oh yeah, it would definately be loud. It's powered by two stroke engines.

It would still be sweet though. "Okay, you guys hike through the muskeg. You guys follow the river until you find the best place to cross. Me? I will be observing everything from above. Good Luck!"