The best evidence that Sasquatch exists, Personal sightings Options

[RedRatSnake]

I've heard pet monkeys tend to fling poo...

Hi

Let me jump out of topic and share a quick story

When i was in Colorado Springs i went to the zoo in the area once, ( forget what town ) with my wife and a few friends, We were in the monkey house and i was really fascinated with some small monkeys in one conner of the house, there were just bars between you and them, The monkeys kept reaching out like they wanted to touch, So i went over and tried to shake ones hand and he did, I was siked it was so cool, Then a lot of them started to reach out so i figured i would be nice and shake there hands too, well one monkey did not have an empty hand, The little SOB had s**t in his hand and gave me a good hand shake i never forgot You know they all started laughing and making fun of me, I found out then there smart and know what there doing

Peace
Tim

[mkianni]

Ah yes, the old s**t shake..........the oldest monkey trick in the book.

Somewhat reminiscent of the homo sapien electric buzzer in the hand gag, although, not nearly as messy.

[bipedalist]

rrs and mk

What, no attached images rrs, that must be a mistake

This post has been edited by bipedalist: Apr 26 2008, 07:51 PM

[RedRatSnake]

rrs and mk

What, no attached images rrs, that must be a mistake

Hi
Well i had nothing for personal pictures to post on that story, If i have them i post em

That happened back in 1981 man i had that stink on me for days it seemed, The monkey that did that also pulled my arm into the cage, I was pretty scared he was only about 16" high and very strong


Peace
Tim

Ah yes, the old s**t shake..........the oldest monkey trick in the book.

Somewhat reminiscent of the homo sapien electric buzzer in the hand gag, although, not nearly as messy.

Hi






Peace
Tim

[art bowshier]

Thanx for the back up guys-- if you say red is red someone will say it's blue. Just to get there two cents in or see if they can rile me up....
If proving these creatures exist means killing one-- I'd rather not let the world know they exist. No matter what anyone says.

[RedRatSnake]

Thanx for the back up guys-- if you say red is red someone will say it's blue. Just to get there two cents in or see if they can rile me up....
If proving these creatures exist means killing one-- I'd rather not let the world know they exist. No matter what anyone says.

Hi

Kinda hits at the morals don't it , Go hunt to kill one of natures most elusive and unknown creatures to prove they exist, Or just go in the woods looking and hope you are one of the lucky few he shows himself too and go home knowing he is there, I have never had the pleasure of seeing a BF, But if someday it were to happen it is between me and him ........

Peace
Tim

[Ty]

The little SOB had s**t in his hand and gave me a good hand shake i never forgot You know they all started laughing and making fun of me, I found out then there smart and know what there doing

I'm glad you found this place Tim, you are a character.....God did that strike me funny...

Ah yes, the old s**t shake..........the oldest monkey trick in the book.

Somewhat reminiscent of the homo sapien electric buzzer in the hand gag, although, not nearly as messy.

This too....

[Le Petit Pied]

Yes, I think the missing ones are the most problable ones. There are a number of reports where X number of (hunters, campers, hikers, etc) were found torn apart and guns bent out of shape and so on. These, while interesting, seem a lot less authentic. Should be lots of local media coverage of such events, death certificates, law enforcement investigations, et al... There seems to be no trace of these events except for the 2nd/3rd/4th... hand report itself. Have to wonder how many of those who go missing every year do so because of exceptional circumstances.

If Sasquatch is killing hunters and hikers once in awhile, it seems to me that from the witness evidence, that you either get a real good warning and survive or if he messes with you, you're done for. I mean, no-one has come forward all busted up by one and survived, right? That seems odd to me. Some people have survived cougar, bear and shark attack. It stands to reason then, doesn't it, that some people would've been able to crawl away from near-fatal savagings from bigfoot, no?

By the way, Le Petit, what Cryptids, if any, are located in France?

There's a very cool French movie called, "Pacte de Loup" ("Brotherhood of the Wolf" in English) that has as it's premise the true story of the Beast of Gévaudan.
Wolves seem to be at the center of most cryptid stories here. France at one point it seems was also just brimming with werewolves -- I think that was linked more with superstition than actually sightings though. One even accompanied the French king! And a few were said to be good loyal companions to their human friends, even protecting them and such. From wikipedia:

"Werewolves in European tradition were sometimes innocent folk suffering from the witchcraft of others, or simply from an unhappy fate, and who, as wolves, behaved in a truly touching fashion, adoring and protecting their human benefactors. In Marie de France's poem Bisclavret (c. 1200), the nobleman Bizuneh, for reasons not described in the lai, had to transform into a wolf every week. When his treacherous wife stole his clothing needed to restore his human form, he escaped the king's wolf hunt by imploring the king for mercy and accompanied the king thereafter. His behaviour at court was so much gentler than when his wife and her new husband appeared at court, that his hateful attack on the couple was deemed justly motivated, and the truth was revealed. Other tales of this sort include William and the Werewolf (translated from French into English ca. 1350)..."

There are also lots of wild man legends, which were strengthened by the capture of a little feral boy, Victor of Aveyron back at the turn of the 18th century. I think his capture pretty much ended the wild man stories, as people just decided that they were all explainable as adult feral humans. So any cryptid hominid that has managed to remain in the wild places here in France would only be thought to be a wild human being if any reports came out... nifty way to stay hidden, eh?

I think the werewolf thing is still a deeply subducted into the French subconscious though. The French have a long relationship with wolf archetypes and I think they are seen as the main cryptids here.

[VAFooter]

If Sasquatch is killing hunters and hikers once in awhile, it seems to me that from the witness evidence, that you either get a real good warning and survive or if he messes with you, you're done for. I mean, no-one has come forward all busted up by one and survived, right? That seems odd to me. Some people have survived cougar, bear and shark attack. It stands to reason then, doesn't it, that some people would've been able to crawl away from near-fatal savagings from bigfoot, no?

I think it just shows that BF finishes the job... Not sure if it is "near-fatal" that you are going to be doing much of anything. Plus, even if you did survive, it sets you up for other forest predators like bear, cougar, etc. I would think that once he finishes with you, one would not be able to crawl, much less walk to safety.

There's a very cool French movie called, "Pacte de Loup" ("Brotherhood of the Wolf" in English) that has as it's premise the true story of the Beast of Gévaudan.
Wolves seem to be at the center of most cryptid stories here. France at one point it seems was also just brimming with werewolves -- I think that was linked more with superstition than actually sightings though. One even accompanied the French king! And a few were said to be good loyal companions to their human friends, even protecting them and such. From wikipedia:

"Werewolves in European tradition were sometimes innocent folk suffering from the witchcraft of others, or simply from an unhappy fate, and who, as wolves, behaved in a truly touching fashion, adoring and protecting their human benefactors. In Marie de France's poem Bisclavret (c. 1200), the nobleman Bizuneh, for reasons not described in the lai, had to transform into a wolf every week. When his treacherous wife stole his clothing needed to restore his human form, he escaped the king's wolf hunt by imploring the king for mercy and accompanied the king thereafter. His behaviour at court was so much gentler than when his wife and her new husband appeared at court, that his hateful attack on the couple was deemed justly motivated, and the truth was revealed. Other tales of this sort include William and the Werewolf (translated from French into English ca. 1350)..."

There are also lots of wild man legends, which were strengthened by the capture of a little feral boy, Victor of Aveyron back at the turn of the 18th century. I think his capture pretty much ended the wild man stories, as people just decided that they were all explainable as adult feral humans. So any cryptid hominid that has managed to remain in the wild places here in France would only be thought to be a wild human being if any reports came out... nifty way to stay hidden, eh?

I think the werewolf thing is still a deeply subducted into the French subconscious though. The French have a long relationship with wolf archetypes and I think they are seen as the main cryptids here.

So are the werewolf reports mostly legend, or are there still things going on in current day France? Oui (I have now reached the limit of my knowledge and command of the French language...)!


Also, anything like the dogman over there?

This post has been edited by VAFooter: Apr 27 2008, 07:17 AM

[Touchmymonkey]

Thank God I haven't heard reports of the feces slinging bigfoot yet, that could require full
rain slickers and golashes when all was said and done and make research a little more stressful, better be glad you live in France LPP just
in case!

/edit. Crap, for some reason I thought he threw crap in this vid, but it's just a boulder. Oh well.

Watch vid at 1:30
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPe6zvU8r_E...feature=related

This post has been edited by Touchmymonkey: Apr 27 2008, 08:04 AM

[Le Petit Pied]

I think it just shows that BF finishes the job... Not sure if it is "near-fatal" that you are going to be doing much of anything. Plus, even if you did survive, it sets you up for other forest predators like bear, cougar, etc. I would think that once he finishes with you, one would not be able to crawl, much less walk to safety.

Well, THAT'S comforting... NOT!! So, you people actually go out LOOKING for this thing?! I hope everybody's got their wills in order and all... Oh and be sure to leave a mouth swabbing behind just so we can match up your DNA to any blood splotches! Holy cow!

So are the werewolf reports mostly legend, or are there still things going on in current day France? Oui (I have now reached the limit of my knowledge and command of the French language...)!
Also, anything like the dogman over there?

Interesting question... I'll go ask around... if I find anything, I'll start a thread over at Cryptozoology, 'k? Who knows... maybe there's something like a yeti up in the Alps or deep in the Basque country... that would be cool... how 'bout an expedition in France? Anyone? Don't expect me to actually go on the darn thing tho -- I'm the official PBJ maker and that's it!

[bipedalist]

/edit. Crap, for some reason I thought he threw crap in this vid, but it's just a boulder. Oh well.

Watch vid at 1:30
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPe6zvU8r_E...feature=related

you're right but at least you get to see him stomp out the flaming bag, thats a great one, I love these messing with squatch spots

[COGrizzly]

There is an old story around here (Eagle County, CO) coming from the Camp Hale era when the 10th mountain division was headquartered in the Pando Valley. This area is now home to Nova Guides, a snowmobile, Jeep, Rafting, and ATV rental place. Google it all and you will see where the area is. The story is that a group of soldiers that were training went up Pearl Creek drainage via skiis and got to above tree line and turned around to ski down. About halfway down they stopped to do a head count. They were missing one so they all skinned back up. At treeline, they found a ton of blood, a mangled M1, torn clothing and a bloody drag trail leading back into the forest. And of course the huge bipedal tracks. The guy was never found. The M1 was bent nearly in half. In all the years the 10th was training in the Pando Valley, 6 people were reported to have died there. The official report says causes "unknown". This story is not found anywhere other than word of mouth around here.

Forest officials did not camp or really even explore the Pearl Creek drainage for years. The VERY creepy part for me is that I have ridden ever single last trail in that area and years ago, before I saw the tracks and before I was even vaguely interested in SAS, a friend and I rode down that drainage on quads. The trail (now closed off by the FS) was incredibly hard and densely forested. My buddy and I stopped about halfway down. We turned off our machines and drank some water. BOTH of us started to feel like we were being watched and high tailed it out of there. Never rode it again, even though it was a very fun and challenging trail. That part freaks me out and is hard to convey by writing.

Years later, I heard a story from a friend of mine that use to snowmobile guide in Summit county, essentially on the East side of that valley. Years ago in the late 90's he saw a white creature "crawl" up a steep cornice and when it got to the top, it stood up and walked away. That was on Chicago ridge, just a bit south and to the east of Camp Hale/Pando Valley.

[ganglian]

Bull crap. Definitive proof will only be attained via a body regardless of personal conviction and evidence has to be scientifically vetted to be worth anything other than an anecdote.

Guess it all comes down to what you're in the research for. Some just want to know, others want to solve it. Increasingly I think I'd be happy just to know.