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[Le Petit Pied]

Here's an idea... a bit out there... but then, what about the BF phenomenon isn't really?

What if someone (or a research group) took it upon themselves to offer a reward for a carcass and posted it at EVERY law enforcement forum and blog they could find. Thing is, sure, the reaction, on the surface would be ridicule but here's the thing. Once you plant a seed that someone is offering $100,000.00 for a BF carcass to men and women who regularly run around the countryside with firearms for a living, isn't there a chance that the next time one of those LEO's saw one and drew on it, they'd be more apt to shoot -- even if they did initially think the idea of such a reward being offered was just silly?

I already hear some of the arguments -- if they look so much like people, no cop is going to take the chance and accidentally shoot a man. Sure. I'm not talking about the questionable sightings -- I'm talking about the for sure, in your face, 'OMG I can see it has no whites to its eyes' kind of encounter. They do happen. And they are more apt to happen to patrolling rural cops than a guy who works at the mill all day and only hunts on the weekends, right? Plus, I trust cops to not shoot a man by accident more than the average untrained person, so they really are, for the most part, some of the most responsible people being exposed to BF out there.

Just a thought.

[longtabber PE]

That would be illegal ( tantamount to offering a bribe) and then it would be viewed as a "reward/bounty" and thats universally against policy and any officer would be fired and subject to criminal prosecution.

Then, with such a reward, it would bring every poacher and whatever out there "looking" then thats a recipe for absolute disaster.

[RedRatSnake]

Then, with such a reward, it would bring every poacher and whatever out there "looking" then thats a recipe for absolute disaster.

Hi

I agree with that 100%

You put money in there and you get trouble ......

Peace Lea
Tim

[Bitter Monk]

Oh Lord.

[urbanshaman]

Rewards have been offered in the past for bringing in a BF body.

Along with the reward people were told that they would have legal protection. I don't know if these rewards are still standing or not, I'll see if I can find where I have read about them.

Not a bad idea, for those who believe that one must be killed in order to be proven.

Le Petit Pied, do you get the feeling that you are being followed?

[RedRatSnake]

Hi


You guys don't think it will a mess if there were some serious bucks involved ???? there are some bad guys out there that would not care much for anything or anyones life, I have known many back in my days in Boston

Peace
Tim

[longtabber PE]

Rewards have been offered in the past for bringing in a BF body.

Along with the reward people were told that they would have legal protection. I don't know if these rewards are still standing or not, I'll see if I can find where I have read about them.

Not a bad idea, for those who believe that one must be killed in order to be proven.

Le Petit Pied, do you get the feeling that you are being followed?

I would LOVE to know who made such a promise LOL.

Please find them if you can tho.

[RedRatSnake]

Hi


This might not be real but it still looks wrong and sad to me


Peace
Tim

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[urbanshaman]

I bet some of our photoshop experts can tell if it is real or not. My first impression is that if it was for real they would have shown it from the front, maybe only waist up.

Where on earth did you find that photo?

[RedRatSnake]

Hi

I found it on cryptomundo.com a while back, Every time i look at it, i have to wonder how would anyone be able to shoot a BF, guess thats why i am so against it, kinda gets ya don't it,

http://www.cryptomundo.com/bigfoot-report/...-bigfoot-photo2

Peace
Tim

This post has been edited by redratsnake: Apr 10 2008, 02:14 PM

[urbanshaman]

Yea, I'm a no kill researcher. However that guy is a better shot than some if it is a real photo... did they analyze it already at Cmundo?...............nevermind, I just went there and can see in their comments that they have determined it to be faked.

This post has been edited by urbanshaman: Apr 10 2008, 02:19 PM

[Le Petit Pied]

Hi
This might not be real but it still looks wrong and sad to me
Peace
Tim

Yes, Tim, it is absolutely sad that there's people out hunting BF... but killing one is bound to happen, right... and it seems to be the only way to get some people to believe.

You know I hate the idea of killing one, but, I fear I am dreadfully outnumbered. I've had to accept that... along with a whole lot of other really unpleasant realizations since signing on here. I just hope that when someone finally kills one, they do it quickly and mercifully and then... treat the body with the respect and dignity it deserves aterwards. I worry though... extending respect and dignity to the innocent doesn't seem to be as important in this world as it used to be.

*sigh*
Lea

[Le Petit Pied]

Le Petit Pied, do you get the feeling that you are being followed?

Hey Urbanshaman!
Yeah, well, I just figured it was my charm and quick wit finally workin' for me.

I guess I gotta' work on my stealth, man!

[jimf]

Meat is murder!!







Tasty,tasty , murder.





*edit*It's a joke btw, saw it on a t-shirt on the The Food network.

This post has been edited by jimf: Apr 10 2008, 04:57 PM

[uffda320]

Why not just post the reward $$ on a bigfoot board. There are people that frequent the bigfoot boards that have encounters every time they go out in the woods.

[Teresa]

Uff

[JayleeD]

I have more respect for law enforcement officers to ever think that one of the them would shoot anything, man or animal, because they were seeing $$.

JMO

[Teresa]

Ditto Jay, there's always a few bad apples, but by and large I couldn't see LEs doing something like that.

[RedRatSnake]

Hi

found this old article

http://www.cryptomundo.com/cryptozoo-news/17-million/


Peace
Tim

[chrisandclauida2]

if we were to follow the no kill crap, some folks are so animate about, the state of science and understanding would still be in the dark ages. just how do you think folks learned about all the animals, insects, plant life, medicine on and on and on. they gathered specimen to examine catalogue and learn about.

and dont give me the crap that others would poach and kill illegally. man should not allow the actions of criminals to dictate how the rest of us should act. if you dont like the criminal action of poaching killing and violating then punish the bastards severely. you dont ban something or stop something because some one misuses it. it isnt the thing you banned fault it is the criminal themselves.

i just love how we can propose to ban certain inanimate objects because the practice or object its self is something we disprove of or dont like but when it comes to something we do like we dont even consider acting the same.

we dont dare ban cigarettes or alcohol because we like those regardless of how many people their use kills. it is vogue to ban other things that kill only a fraction of the numbers thru misuse.

lets not be two faced hypocrites.

i go back and forth on weather i would kill a sassy to prove its existence and learn about it, its a personal decision. im neither ignorant of how we learn nor arrogant enough to think that killing one is a bad terrible thing and those who would do so are murders. the fact is they are advancing science and understanding in the same manner and method man has done for thousands of years.

if it wasnt for the dark ages we would be traveling among the stars 500 years more advanced than we are now. we cannot not stop forward progress just because an unknown animal has 2 arms legs 10 fingers and toes and is shaped like we are.

stepping off the soap box now.

This post has been edited by chrisandclauida2: Apr 13 2008, 01:09 AM

[BobZenor]

Yes, Tim, it is absolutely sad that there's people out hunting BF... but killing one is bound to happen, right... and it seems to be the only way to get some people to believe.

You know I hate the idea of killing one, but, I fear I am dreadfully outnumbered. I've had to accept that... along with a whole lot of other really unpleasant realizations since signing on here. I just hope that when someone finally kills one, they do it quickly and mercifully and then... treat the body with the respect and dignity it deserves aterwards. I worry though... extending respect and dignity to the innocent doesn't seem to be as important in this world as it used to be.

*sigh*
Lea

I doubt it. Krantz, Green and others advocated killing one to prove it exists. That may have been true when they said it, but it probably isn't true anymore. About the only way you would need a body to "prove" their existence is if bigfoot is a modern human or descended from a creature that was essentially a modern human. That idea seems rather fantastic and unlikely.

Most people probably would be happy to see it proven but few would want to see one killed to advance science or even to prove it. I suspect the number who would want one killed would be greatly overrepresented on a BF forum.

I would hate to see a bounty because it might encourage people to shot one. They might even think of themselves as heroes. In the end, though, I can't see them being portrayed as heroic by many. Most people are mortified at the killing of apes and an upright walking one that may be closer than chimps is going to receive a tremendous amount of sympathy.

This post has been edited by BobZenor: Apr 13 2008, 05:16 AM

[longtabber PE]

I would hate to see a bounty because it might encourage people to shot one. They might even think of themselves as heroes. In the end, though, I can't see them being portrayed as heroic by many. Most people are mortified at the killing of apes and an upright walking one that may be closer than chimps is going to receive a tremendous amount of sympathy.

The good news is that such an act would probably be prosecuted. ( and should be) depending on the individual circumstances.

Even tho BF isnt named ( by any enforcable way in any meaningful statute)- most states have a catch all phrase such as "non game" animals etc. ( which is rarely used)

hypothetically- in killing a BF

If one killed one under the claim of self defense ( felt in danger) or the BF was raiding livestock/damaging property ( defense of property) nothing legally would be done because there are already laws governing that which define when animals can be killed to protect interests.

However, in the case where a bounty was publically offered before said shooting and it was establishable that said killing was a direct attempt to collect said bounty- I could easily see( and personally fully support) a prosecution if the language of the state laws where the incident occured would allow for it.

[RayG]

Most people are mortified at the killing of apes and an upright walking one that may be closer than chimps is going to receive a tremendous amount of sympathy.

Emotionally, I sometimes wonder where the line in the sand should be drawn. Is it the similarity in human appearance that stirs our emotions? Are most of us saddened at seeing a dead gorilla, but less so for a dead bear, elk, or alligator? Are our heart-strings tugged more at the sight of a dead mammal or dead reptile? What about a dead fish or whale? Interesting psychology we have towards animals.

With regards to squatch, I'd not be able to pull the trigger on one myself, but I'm willing to concede that examining one closely enough to classify and identify it, means looking at a body, either live or dead. Squatch seems to have history on his side though, so I don't see any body showing up in my lifetime.

RayG

[Scooby]

Bounties:

There are enough idiots in the woods come deer season that never take out a firearm until the season starts, and put it away without cleaning or unloading until next season. Top it off with most of them get soused before hand.

Now, offer a bounty (discount LE types, just a general bounty) and the woods are going to be a dangerous place for everyone and everything, let alone BF.



Edited to add:

I should add that I fall on the pro-kill side (no blood-lust). I side with what c&c2 said. It will take a specimen to prove the existence to the world.

This post has been edited by Scooby: Apr 13 2008, 06:56 PM

[bipedalist]

Hi
This might not be real but it still looks wrong and sad to me
Peace
Tim

Obviously a turn of the century or late 19th c. hunting photo, with animal originally hanging substituted with
a bigfoot airbrushed in, I have a similar photo of bear hunters at the turn of the century in mtns. of NC and the clothing is
even the same if not the firearm.