Bizarre Stick Formations, Evidence of Yowie? Options

[YowieMan]

I have read several reports in Australia from Yowie Researchers of bizarre stick formations found in areas known for having Yowie activity. These formations have been found in remote areas and appear to not have occured naturally. I was interested to know if any similiar formations have been seen in areas noted for Bigfoot/Sasquatch activity. There is one theory which suggests that it may be a form of marking territory. I'm not sure what I think of these formations, though they are certainly interesting findings. Let me know what you think?

Below are several pictures of these stick formations



More descriptions and examples of these stick formations can be found at http://bushapes.blogspot.com/

This post has been edited by YowieMan: Jan 20 2008, 06:26 AM

[Rounder]

Interesting pics Yowieman, but I've never been completey sold on the stick formation thing. It just seems to me that between the wind and the rain and the snow and the ice and a myriad of creatures running around the woods, an infinite number of sticks and branches can end up in an infinite number of configurations. I know many people swear by these things, but until I read a report or two of someone actually observing a BF making one of these 'territorial markers', I'm still thinking these are just natural formations or made by kids. But I may be wrong, and if I am I'm sure someone here will set me straight.

[RedRatSnake]

Hi


I have been reading a lot on the stick formations since i came to the forum, i do a lot of hiking in the Plymouth, MA state forest a place not known for any BF, i find these formations from time to time some around 1" in dia and others with 3" dia branches, i have never though anything of them, to me it just seems like falling branches that get clumped together

Peace
Tim

[bipedalist]

I have read several reports in Australia from Yowie Researchers of bizarre stick formations found in areas known for having Yowie activity. These formations have been found in remote areas and appear to not have occured naturally. I was interested to know if any similiar formations have been seen in areas noted for Bigfoot/Sasquatch activity. There is one theory which suggests that it may be a form of marking territory. I'm not sure what I think of these formations, though they are certainly interesting findings. Let me know what you think?

Below are several pictures of these stick formations



More descriptions and examples of these stick formations can be found at http://bushapes.blogspot.com/

I have directly experienced the precise miniature triangles presented by the lateral placement of the crossed sticks
on the log pic 3, somebody posted on another thread, that at one point "woodcraft" taught people certain placement of
rocks and sticks to communicate things to other human woodsmen. This does not look like that effort. I might add the
area I would find one of these precise placement such as perfectly formed equilateral triangles within the formation,
I would find others tightly bunched in a research area. I have seen smaller examples of the tripods that have cropped up
overnight as well. Hopefully this summer I will post a full collage of pics to go with this thread.

This post has been edited by bipedalist: Jan 20 2008, 07:00 AM

[Rounder]

Before we get into a running gallery of stick art here, could someone please explain to me how exactly these things are BF related, other than they happen to be found where people are looking for BF, and happen to look 'funny'.

[YowieMan]

Before we get into a running gallery of stick art here, could someone please explain to me how exactly these things are BF related, other than they happen to be found where people are looking for BF, and happen to look 'funny'.

Well, I guess these stick formations could occur naturally, though I must say that some of them do look remarkably unnatural. I don't know of any other Australian animals that would make these structures. The reason I posted the topic was that I had read of these occurances during Yowie expeditions in known "Yowie Areas" where it would be not impossible for people to be running around making them, though highly unlikely. I guess you might be able to walk around in any bush areas and find these formations, but I havn't come across any this suspicious during any bushwalking trips. It was always a phenomenon that intrigued me though I have never been fully convinced that it is related to BF activity. I was interested to know if the phenomenon was seen in any Bigfoot areas to further suggest that it might be a related phenomenon. I was hoping some BF researchers might be able to shed some light on the topic.

[bipedalist]

Well, I guess these stick formations could occur naturally, though I must say that some of them do look remarkably unnatural. I don't know of any other Australian animals that would make these structures. The reason I posted the topic was that I had read of these occurances during Yowie expeditions in known "Yowie Areas" where it would be not impossible for people to be running around making them, though highly unlikely. I guess you might be able to walk around in any bush areas and find these formations, but I havn't come across any this suspicious during any bushwalking trips. It was always a phenomenon that intrigued me though I have never been fully convinced that it is related to BF activity. I was interested to know if the phenomenon was seen in any Bigfoot areas to further suggest that it might be a related phenomenon. I was hoping some BF researchers might be able to shed some light on the topic.

I have seen them appear overnight in my research area, where none were before, it is remote and not a camping
area or frequented by those at night, posted land.

[YowieMan]

I have seen them appear overnight in my research area, where none were before, it is remote and not a camping
area or frequented by those at night, posted land.

Thanks Bipedalist.....Interesting......There just seems to be something bizarre about them that gets my attention... They just don't look natural to me. Its definetely interesting that they occured under the circumstances that you mentioned also.

[Rounder]

It is not my intention to denigrate anyone's research efforts, but let me explain why I have my doubts that these 'stick structures' have any connection to BF. I spent many happy years living in a little tarpaper shack in the woods, and heated this place entirely with wood from the surrounding forest. None of this chainsaw/halfton stuff mind you, I collected deadfall and cut up the larger stuff with a bowsaw, and carried all of it home on my back using a tumpline. This required me to spend at least three hours per day, at least four or five days a week, in the woods from October to April. I can say with some certaintly there were no BF in the area where I harvested. Nothing could move around those snowy trails without me knowing they were there, and I would have noticed large bipedal tracks, I assure you. In all those years I saw all manner of sticks piled up in strange configurations -- on any given day I could take ten of the pictures I've seen as evidence of stick structures. Between the wind, the ice, the snow, and the animals, sticks and branches end up in a myriad of configurations of the forest floor. I've also seen pictures of bent-over trees intertwined with dead branches that supposedly represent BF shelters. Nonsense, the tree got coated with ice and bent over, the snow piled up and forced it to the ground, and before it could right itself in spring a bunch of dead branches fell on top of it and presto, we have a BF shelter. As for the 'it wasn't there last night argument', ok, it wasn't, the wind blew some sticks down while you were sleeping. So unless comeone can come up with better logic than 'I was looking for BF, and found these funny sticks -- ergo, BF must have done it', I remain unconvinced.

[bipedalist]

As for the 'it wasn't there last night argument', ok, it wasn't, the wind blew some sticks down while you were sleeping. So unless comeone can come up with better logic than 'I was looking for BF, and found these funny sticks -- ergo, BF must have done it', I remain unconvinced.

I'm not taking anything personally, and don't feel denigrated. I'm not sure what this stuff represents for certain, and have no
earthly idea why a BF would fool with some of this little stuff, nor anything else for that matter. I do know that my area is not hoaxed
based on my observations and the continguity of the appearance of these things on very short timelines, been there in the dark and been
there the next dawn, not camped mind you, but wella. Just have seen a multitude of these lateral placements which are unnatural in that
they contain sometimes five or more perfectly formed equilateral triangles, now the wind is a powerful force and the woods shed this stuff daily,
however, mother nature does not balance this stuff on logs nor produce that kind of order on a repeated basis in a small patch of forest. Have I spent as much time in this area as
you have in your domicile, possibly not, have I spent weeks of my total time maybe months in the area I'm seeing this, yes. I know the
arguments about pictured evidence, and won't pretend to sway any opinions, but this is mine based on my research over approximately
15 months of intense study in an area. And yes, on the bends and bows in my area alot of it is ice-formed, as for some of the breaks I have
seen i am unconvinced of ice, bears maybe. I have found fresh snapped green twigs laid on smaller structures over night as well....that will get
you thinking something is messing with you, and yes they were loaded to the pile to make the perfect triangle.

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[Rounder]

Yep, green broke branches and five equilateral triangles, that's not normal. Now you're starting to convince me there's something out of the ordinary where you're at. As to whether its BF or not, that's another question. I'm still at a loss to think why a giant hairy hominid would spend his/her time buggering around with little sticks. Next time you run across something like this, take all the little sticks and leave them in a neat pile right where you found them -- see if they're back like they were before the next day.

[bipedalist]

Yep, green broke branches and five equilateral triangles, that's not normal. Now you're starting to convince me there's something out of the ordinary where you're at. As to whether its BF or not, that's another question. I'm still at a loss to think why a giant hairy hominid would spend his/her time buggering around with little sticks. Next time you run across something like this, take all the little sticks and leave them in a neat pile right where you found them -- see if they're back like they were before the next day.

BTDT, found a broken 4 ft. poplar branch, obviously snapped in two and bark twisted down in the process,
two pieces were 4 yards apart. Probably fell and was broken naturally as I've seen this shredding effect of bark
before in shedded poplar branches. Placed the two ends together, positioned them against a log, over the course of the next
six weeks a tit-for-tat set of arrangements, balancing, hanging them from trees, assembled-reassembled etc. occurred, not complex
formations, just two pieces of the same broken stick, rearranged and yes balanced on top of a log in parallel
fashion, etc. .....I was flabbergasted to put it mildly, BF or not, I don't know, I just know the remote area was
not conducive to overnight hoaxing. Therefore how and why come to mind. I have not been successful with gamecam placements
but know there are deer, coon, black bear, grouse, turkey and other wildlife including many owls in the area. Until a drought,
plenty of water as well. I have had alot of fun monitoring this area, particularly stalking wildlife.

[julio12]

YowieMan
I should tell you that i am not a firm believer in stick formations at least not until this year when I found a tree that was at least four inches in diameter and was brought down some how.The tree was at least twenty to thirty feet tall and it was broken five feet at the base of the tree.Where the end of the tree was on the ground floor there were other trees that were woven in within each other some how that could only be done by hand and not by the wind and nothing else that we could explain.We are not sure what could have done this but we did find it strange. Strange in the way it was created but we could not find no purpose for it .

YowieMan
Have you tried tearing down these stick formations just to see what would happen.Maybe you can get what ever made them upset enough to have it stick around.You might want to stick a game camera there where you teared downed these stick formation and get a picture of whatever made them when it comes back to investigate its marker ,thats is if it is used as a marker.Just a thought
Mark A

[longtabber PE]

I'm kinda there with Rounder.

I've seen things like that all my life ( some of them are as posted- they are so inline with geometric figures or whatever, it literally makes one stop and wonder) but I find it difficult to ascribe it to BF behavior. ( I put the yells, wood knocking and rock throwing in this same category)

The logic I use is pretty simple- if a BF made these ( or its a trademark of his) one would think there would be a lot of prints etc around ( not on every one but on a lot)

Also, if he actually is "marking" then one can conclude there is some form of uniform communication system in place ( otherwise another BF wouldnt know it was a marking thus defeating the purpose of making the mark in the first place)Next progression would be if marking is a BF trait- I would think everywhere there is a population, there would be markings aplenty and that would be a signal there be bigfeet in the area.

On the "dark side"- if he is marking ( in the sense of marking territory) one would believe this was "his" territory and if you find one- "you" are in his territory and as such subject to confrontation and maybe "forceful" removal. ( I could even see this alleged rock throwing as the first level challenge but if that didnt scare the person off- I would think the next rocks would be targeted at you or another form of escalation such as a confrontation)

Or, its not a "marking" ( as in territory)- its some kind of "message"- I would expect to find some kind of "answer" on some of them at least.

[Rounder]

Sounds kinda spooky. Have you ever heard of a product called 'Trail's End'? Its sold in archery shops -- its a very thin line of orange thread that you secure to the end of your arrow. If you hit a deer (or whatever), you can follow this thread to the hypothetically dead animal. Its been awhile since I've used it so I can't remember how long the thread is, but I think its three or four hundred feet. Get ahold of some of this stuff, attatch one end to a burr near where you think whatever is messing with your sticks might be. If the container is empty in the morning, all you have to do is find that orange thread, and follow it. ha ha I dare you!

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[longtabber PE]

Sounds kinda spooky. Have you ever heard of a product called 'Trail's End'? Its sold in archery shops -- its a very thin line of orange thread that you secure to the end of your arrow. If you hit a deer (or whatever), you can follow this thread to the hypothetically dead animal. Its been awhile since I've used it so I can't remember how long the thread is, but I think its three or four hundred feet. Get ahold of some of this stuff, attatch one end to a burr near where you think whatever is messing with your sticks might be. If the container is empty in the morning, all you have to do is find that orange thread, and follow it. ha ha I dare you!

It wouldnt work- even if you did follow it, when you got close- he would zap you with his infrasonic mind beam while hiding in the brush wearing his mask so you still wouldnt find him.

[bipedalist]

Sounds kinda spooky. Have you ever heard of a product called 'Trail's End'? Its sold in archery shops -- its a very thin line of orange thread that you secure to the end of your arrow. If you hit a deer (or whatever), you can follow this thread to the hypothetically dead animal. Its been awhile since I've used it so I can't remember how long the thread is, but I think its three or four hundred feet. Get ahold of some of this stuff, attatch one end to a burr near where you think whatever is messing with your sticks might be. If the container is empty in the morning, all you have to do is find that orange thread, and follow it. ha ha I dare you!

great suggestion/idea, would give you some clues about direction if nothing else, guess you could
also just leave a can of silly string, and see where the playful buggers curiousity was taking it, or
better yet get some of that ultraviolet spy powder and see if you could powder the area around the sticks
and be able to spot anything on the ground or sticks that way.....anybody familiar with that expensive stuff
BTW, saw some for like $45 for a couple ounces or something like that.

[Rounder]

It wouldnt work- even if you did follow it, when you got close- he would zap you with his infrasonic mind beam while hiding in the brush wearing his mask so you still wouldnt find him.

Ya, and the CSI guys would puzzle over the mangled body wrapped in orange thread.

[georgerm]

On the "dark side"- if he is marking ( in the sense of marking territory) one would believe this was "his" territory and if you find one- "you" are in his territory and as such subject to confrontation and maybe "forceful" removal. ( I could even see this alleged rock throwing as the first level challenge but if that didnt scare the person off- I would think the next rocks would be targeted at you or another form of escalation such as a confrontation)

Or, its not a "marking" ( as in territory)- its some kind of "message"- I would expect to find some kind of "answer" on some of them at least.

Interesting thread. The dark side is a reality. Start looking over your shoulder when a complicated stick formation is found like the ones Yowie has shown. I don't want 600 pounds of stinky fur bluff charging at 30 mph.

The more elaborate the stick formations, the less likely nature did it. Yowie has shown formations that cross the line and are formed by people, Yowie, or a frustrated genius coyote. Rounder has made some good points. Beware of being a BF fanatic and seeing evidence everywehere.

Below is a video that shows BF stick formations. It's really cool.

http://www.bigfootencounters.com/ go to vidoes, images and sounds then to: Leo Selzer's Field Report, British Columbia

[dogu4]

It's funny, in a way. Autos kill 40,000 US citizens every year and we are nonchalant about them. Hopsitals about the same number and yet very little fear. Bees, snakes and lighting only a few hundred and they are kinda scarey. A few people get mauled and fewer yet killed by wild animals and we are terribly frightened of them. Bigfoot; virtually no known instances of anyone ever seeing 'em let alone being harmed or killed and we're terrified to the point of not going out into the woods for fear of what might happen. I hate to bring up the subject of possibly deadly Higgs-Boson particles or anit-matter for fear we'll run-away screaming like little girls.

And let's not forget the first sign of a doomsday announcing black hole is that you can't see 'em....uh oh..

[bipedalist]

Interesting thread. The dark side is a reality. Start looking over your shoulder when a complicated stick formation is found like the ones Yowie has shown. I don't want 600 pounds of stinky fur bluff charging at 30 mph.

The more elaborate the stick formations, the less likely nature did it. Yowie has shown formations that cross the line and are formed by people, Yowie, or a frustrated genius coyote. Rounder has made some good points. Beware of being a BF fanatic and seeing evidence everywehere.

Below is a video that shows BF stick formations. It's really cool.

http://www.bigfootencounters.com/ go to vidoes, images and sounds then to: Leo Selzer's Field Report, British Columbia

Appreciate the link georgerm, I don't buy all the stuff with the diseased understory stunted pines, I can drive down any road and see some of that stuff in similar forests. As for the weaving of impossible deadfall I do agree that is unusual and have seen that and to me it had to have been carefully moved placed and woven. The commercial element of a video always concerns me when research is involved. It is always interesting to find multiple species of trees used for this, some of which is not directly overhead or even nearby. Still need to catch the creators in the act is the problem. As for tooth and nail marks I always have problems attributing this to anything other than deer, bear and the like. I have seen bark stripped trees and deer on two legs raising up to do it and to browse rhododendron.

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[georgerm]

Still need to catch the creators in the act is the problem. As for tooth and nail marks I always have problems attributing this to anything other than deer, bear and the like. I have seen bark stripped trees and deer on two legs raising up to do it and to browse rhododendron.

I see your point, but then again a forest hiker needs to be aware formations could be no trespassing signs. A good report of BF making these structures will help. I have not run across one.

This summer I found several areas where rocks had been stacked on each other. They were next to a remote roads, but I assumed they were people made.

A few people get mauled and fewer yet killed by wild animals and we are terribly frightened of them. Bigfoot; virtually no known instances of anyone ever seeing 'em let alone being harmed or killed and we're terrified to the point of not going out into the woods for fear of what might happen.

Yes, this fact is hard to explain. Movies play on this fear at all times. Most BF encounters are harmless. A small percentage are terrifying. If we knew for sure that stick formations were first made by BF and secondly a warning to intruders, then we might be more respectful and careful. Last summer, I found an overgrown road high in the Oregon mountains, and several fresh tree breaks were visable. The trees were 3" diameter Douglas Firs and broken about 5' up. If a marker for other BFs walking the road at night, they were well done. Needless to say, I camped well away from this area.

Here's a good report to read as to what could happen when tresspassing.

http://www.bfro.net/GDB/show_report.asp?id=7555

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[bipedalist]

a forest hiker needs to be aware formations could be no trespassing signs. A good report of BF making these structures will help. I have not run across one.

Right grm It is best to be safe and not sorry in these endeavors and your warnings are good ones, I don't think the average hiker would have a clue about this
kind of stuff, I know I never did in all of my backpacking experiences pre-BF. I myself would not choose to mess with these formations. I might collect
some sticks from obvious non-formations, and stack them to create a pool from which something could be built though if something wished to in a research
area, I would rather go in that direction personally. I have a mind for safety too.

[Hominid,WA]

I'm with Rounder and Longtabber on this one, just doesn't seem contrary to the laws of nature IMO.

[bipedalist]

I'd settle just to see an impressive BF hairy ape in daylight, if it
had sticks in its hands even if it was hunched over playing the drums, and not
adding to an impressive tripod or formation, it still would be icing on the cake.

Seriously, I once took a compass bearing on what looked like a formation (tripod & pointer embedded in the ground so that
it couldn't have been a tree fall) which looked suspicious ----
after following this bearing several hundred yards up a vegetated incline with little
forward sightways through the forest I then found a break, a bow and a limbed tree
with strange markings on the bark, up above all this was a rock overhang with cover
but no evidence anything was habitating there. Just stuff to think about. I know some of the
Northern Virginia researchers have been trying some of these bearings and measurements to
try to better understand this phenomenon, and it does add some additional
credibility to stuff that seems UNNATURAL or random IMO

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[longtabber PE]

I know some of the
Northern Virginia researchers have been trying some of these bearings and measurements to
try to better understand this phenomenon, and it does add some additional
credibility to stuff that seems UNNATURAL or random IMO

OK, let me turh this around and play engineer here for a minute.

Its a fact these "things" ( defined as out of place natural"stuff" that appears "organized" in a manner that defies nature unique "randomness") are out there. I and I'm sure the majority of outdoorspeople here have seen these "things" at one time or another.

So, since they are there- they were obviously put there- now the question is either by some freak natural occurance or by design by man or animal.

Has anyone ever observed these tree breaks to attempt to determine the angle of the break ( whether it was bowed or broken at a sharp angle) or from disease, bugs, lightning etc?

Has anyone ever studied the "scenario" to make an attempt to ascertain its purpose or possible origin? Even to maybe when and under what circumstances/conditions it happened in?

I never thought to until today but the next time I run across one- I'm going to look a little bit deeper to see if there is anything there that may shed some light on the origin of the "thing"

[bipedalist]

Has anyone ever studied the "scenario" to make an attempt to ascertain its purpose or possible origin? Even to maybe when and under what circumstances/conditions it happened in?

I never thought to until today but the next time I run across one- I'm going to look a little bit deeper to see if there is anything there that may shed some light on the origin of the "thing"

Certainly is something I've given a little more thought to since I've covered so much ground in just a small research area. It didn't hurt to have
"monkey" chatter come from that same researched incline one foggy late afternoon either, sometime after the connection was made (of course, the digital recorder
gets left behind that late afternoon due to near darkness).

Has anyone ever observed these tree breaks to attempt to determine the angle of the break ( whether it was bowed or broken at a sharp angle) or from disease, bugs, lightning etc?

I'm not sure about the angle of breaks per se, but direction I think has/is been looked at--
in my particular situation, the pointer, the break and the bow all pointed to the rock overhang much further up the ridge.

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[sassfoot]

stick formations are unusual for sure but i can't see spending a whole lot of time studying them when the animal suspected of building them hasn't been proven to even exist.isn't it like putting the cart before the horse so to speak?i mean they need to be recorded i guess but to actually assume that a cryptid built it when no one can even get a pic of the damn animal.

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[YowieMan]

YowieMan
I should tell you that i am not a firm believer in stick formations at least not until this year when I found a tree that was at least four inches in diameter and was brought down some how.The tree was at least twenty to thirty feet tall and it was broken five feet at the base of the tree.Where the end of the tree was on the ground floor there were other trees that were woven in within each other some how that could only be done by hand and not by the wind and nothing else that we could explain.We are not sure what could have done this but we did find it strange. Strange in the way it was created but we could not find no purpose for it .

YowieMan
Have you tried tearing down these stick formations just to see what would happen.Maybe you can get what ever made them upset enough to have it stick around.You might want to stick a game camera there where you teared downed these stick formation and get a picture of whatever made them when it comes back to investigate its marker ,thats is if it is used as a marker.Just a thought
Mark A

Well at least this topic has got a few different opinions flying around. Like I said before, I am not convinced that these structures are Yowie/Bigfoot related. I was only that I had read several reports from other Yowie Research sites (I did not take the photos) who had mentioned this phenomenon as there isn't a lot of Yowie related discussions going on over here, I thought it would be interesting to see if it is happening anywhere else. I agree with Rounder that this could quite easily happen naturally, though like Bipedalist and Julio12 have said, the circumstances under which some of these formations appear is strange.

YM






I think if there was more associated evidence like foorprints around the structures, it would certainly give more credit to the theory that they are related. I think many people may not even be looking for them in their travels. I know I will keep my eyes open next time i'm having a look around.

[YowieMan]

I did come across an account of stick formations found with other suggested Yowie evidence. In the Cropper/Healy book, there was an account of bite marks found high on trees in remote games trails where the grass below had been trodden down by something large. It was said the the discoverer also found stick formations close to these bite marks, in various formations. Could be totally coincidental, thought this is the sort of evidence that would be needed to help validate such structures as being BF related.

[John Cartwright]

They are just mile markers on the bigfoot/yowie highways.

[georgerm]

OK, let me turh this around and play engineer here for a minute.

Its a fact these "things" ( defined as out of place natural"stuff" that appears "organized" in a manner that defies nature unique "randomness") are out there. I and I'm sure the majority of outdoorspeople here have seen these "things" at one time or another.

So, since they are there- they were obviously put there- now the question is either by some freak natural occurance or by design by man or animal.

Has anyone ever observed these tree breaks to attempt to determine the angle of the break ( whether it was bowed or broken at a sharp angle) or from disease, bugs, lightning etc?

Has anyone ever studied the "scenario" to make an attempt to ascertain its purpose or possible origin? Even to maybe when and under what circumstances/conditions it happened in?

I never thought to until today but the next time I run across one- I'm going to look a little bit deeper to see if there is anything there that may shed some light on the origin of the "thing"

This area has high tree breaks and wind was doubtful since trees higher up were not broken. We don't get that much snow here on the coast range of Oregon. In this area 12" at the most.

Big trees need to have a powerful force to break them off. If BFs did this they might be juveniles climbing trees and swinging out to break them off. Maybe the breaks mean nothing other than it's fun to break off trees. Or they don't point any where but simply mean if you walk down this road keep going because be have this area. I really doubt if BFs did this, but I can't think of what else did since other areas along the road were not damaged. Maybe Black bears climb and break off trees.

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[Bitter Monk]

Has anyone ever observed these tree breaks to attempt to determine the angle of the break ( whether it was bowed or broken at a sharp angle) or from disease, bugs, lightning etc?

Has anyone ever studied the "scenario" to make an attempt to ascertain its purpose or possible origin? Even to maybe when and under what circumstances/conditions it happened in?

I know at least two people who are doing work on the possible geographic nature of the subject. There is also at least one article on the SRI site.