Interesting Story and events that take place., The Story OF Anne "Dog Skinned Alive" Options

[WmRoy]

Well at least now I know what gets into my tomato plants............. curse you bigfoot..........

[rockinkt]

It was Bigfoot on the grassy knoll...

[FredSneakers/Dav...]

This happened here in Arkansas earlier this year and it was also to a beagle. I looked into some more cases in Arkansas of the same thing happening and most of the dogs were beagles.

Do have any links detailing this?

My first thought was somesort of serial beagle sadist, but I remembered once being told that Beagles had a knack for getting into trouble. According to wikipedia, they are highly intelligent and curious, which I know can ironically lead to doing very stupid things. Maybe Beagles, as a breed, just have a tendency to stick their noses in the wrong places? Anybody know much about them?

Of course, it seems unlikely that both animals would get cut up like that with such a short time frame between the wounds simply by chance.

Getting hit by a car does seem to be an adequate explanation, and some people do (unfortunately) try to hit animals on purpose. Another possibility is that the cruelty was not direscted at the dogs but rather the owner (the old hung cat on the porch deal). I tend to think a lot about the things that disturb me...

I guess my point I am fairly certain that this is no act of sasquatchian pissiness, obviously there are a hundreds of other, more conservative, explanations for this event.

[hopeful]

QUOTE(hopeful @ Dec 19 2007, 04:27 PM)
This happened here in Arkansas earlier this year and it was also to a beagle. I looked into some more cases in Arkansas of the same thing happening and most of the dogs were beagles.

Do have any links detailing this?...

You are not going to like this website, FSD. It is very disturbing, but it's where I read about those cases.
http://www.pet-abuse.com/pages/cruelty_dat...e=&state=AR

And this is the link to the story about Missy, the beagle in Benton AR. It also has a petition for people to sign to make this kind of torture a felony here.
http://dogblog.dogster.com/2007/06/21/arka...rder-as-felony/

[Paul1968UK]

As far as you leaving suit yourself, I think this is what ? Second ? Third time you've said that? Not believing that one either thanks anyway though.,

Pot meet kettle

[jimf]

Could you point out exactly when I said that?

*edited to add* Where it hasn't been that I've said I'm gone for awhile and be back later that is?

This post has been edited by jimf: Dec 21 2007, 02:48 PM

[sassfoot]

That's the point. Every time anything not considered within the norm hits a news service these days. It gets brought up with the whole damn "possible" scenario again and again. And yes that is how I see you, my opinion only, I don't presume to speak for anyone else.

It's does get sickening after awhile though. Between every shadow, owl call, loud thump, or every time someone gets scared around a campfire it's suddenly "possible" it was Bigfoot.
Cat wander off? It's possible Bigfoot ate it.

Something nibble the tomatoes in your garden ? It's possible Bigfoot ate them.

Garbage can tipped over in a rural area? It's possible Bigfoot was pissed at you and knocked them over.

And then people have the gall to wonder why the media or general public laughs at you ? Say hello to Mr. Mirror, Located in gas station rest rooms all over the continent.
As far as you leaving suit yourself, I think this is what ? Second ? Third time you've said that? Not believing that one either thanks anyway though.,

.chill out dude this is just speculation as everthing else on this forum.

This post has been edited by JayleeD: Dec 23 2007, 11:53 AM

[WmRoy]

In this case, I agree with jimf.......... it's not just idle speculation. It's a pattern of behaviour where everything is attributed to BF or at least the possiblity of being BF.

If there is no evidence that BF was involved, such as tracks, an actual sighting, or a trail cam photo.......... it's just WRONG to go around throwing up BF as a possiblity.

It's kinda like saying it's the seriousness of the charge.......... well we have no information or evidence, much less proof, but it's a pretty serious charge.............. society is getting dumber by the day.

This post has been edited by WmRoy: Dec 23 2007, 03:17 PM

[Paul1968UK]

I agree - this 'bigfoot is everywhere' mentality is what provides us with so many blobsquatches.

But how many 'serious' researchers walk around pointing out tree-breaks, X formations, teepees and vaugue flattenned grass 'nests'? I know of several, and in my opinion, unless they can prove that bigfoot causes these things, they are no better as evidence to the skinned dog.

[FredSneakers/Dav...]

.chill out dude this is just speculation as everthing else on this forum.

I think we can all agree that some ideas are better than others.

[hopeful]

Begin Rant: From what I've read of Mike's posts, he actually gets out in the field and tries to find bigfoot. If he sees, hears, or finds anything interesting, his natural tendency is to share with other bigfoot enthusiasts where hopefully he won't be ridiculed and laughed at and most importantly down right disrespected.

I enjoy his topics, and he hasn't claimed this is bigfoot related, and he hasn't fed us full of lies and tall tales. IMO, he just wanted to mention it because it was interesting. He doesn't deserve to be treated like a small time hoaxter such as Creekfreak.

In my opinion, he should not be classified as nor given the treatment that is reserved for the common jnugler. End Rant.

It's funny how all those little red guys rant in unison.

[Pywacket]

Hopeful,

This is the statement that Mike (watch1) made in his first post, that IMO, got him in trouble.

Please don't post that you don't believe a Bigfoot would do something like this. I am not saying it did or didn't. But..the possibility is there.

Mike (watch1)

And then there's this:

You don't think a Bigfoot is strong enough to have grabbed this poor dog by the neck and reached down and grabbed a handful of skin at the base of the neck and jerked and then slung the dog on the ground?

What makes this idea ludicrous?

Mike(watch1)

Comparing what happened to this poor dog and the assumption of what bigfoot is capable doing is pretty far fetched.

This post has been edited by Pywacket: Dec 23 2007, 07:31 PM

[Former_Northwest...]

Comparing what happened to this poor dog and the assumption of what bigfoot is capable doing is pretty far fetched.

Agreed. I would like to see at least a plausible hypothesis on how and why a bigfoot slinging a dog to the ground could cause that pattern of injury. And then come up with alternatives (as others have done, such as accidents with cars and machines) to see which one is more plausible.

[hopeful]

Hopeful,

This is the statement that Mike (watch1) made in his first post, that IMO, got him in trouble.
And then there's this:
Comparing what happened to this poor dog and the assumption of what bigfoot is capable doing is pretty far fetched.

Agreed. I would like to see at least a plausible hypothesis on how and why a bigfoot slinging a dog to the ground could cause that pattern of injury. And then come up with alternatives (as others have done, such as accidents with cars and machines) to see which one is more plausible.

I agree with both of you, Pywacket and FNW and with Jim to a lesser degree. All I'm saying is that he deserves to be treated with respect.

[BC Cryptid]

The only dog killing methods I've heard of are the (most commonly) 'swung against a tree' (I assume usually breaking the dog's backbone and killing it instantly) or the less common 'crushing to a pulp', probably involving stomping on the dog and then rolling on it (common in great ape killing).

It is well known that dogs are one of the most hated animals and most targetted for aggression, from a sasquatch point of view.

A sasquatch attempting to grab this dog by the scruff and chuck it against a tree could end up tearing off all the skin along the dog's back.

That being said, I think the most likely culprit was a pack of other dogs, or perhaps the dog got caught under some barbed wire and ended up having to tear itself loose?

There is no reason to think a sasquatch could not do this, but immediately jumping to one of the least likely explanations is not good reasoning.

[Pywacket]

I agree with both of you, Pywacket and FNW and with Jim to a lesser degree. All I'm saying is that he deserves to be treated with respect.

I didn't feel that Watch1 was being treated disrespectfully. I just think his assumption was.

[mike2k1]

When you post on an open forum, you are going to get all kind of responses. Some are sympathetic to you, some aren't. Some are nice, some are rude. Questions are going to be slung at you and you have to shed your pride somewhat and put on a little armor. Until something is proven you have to realize that ideas are going to be scrutinized, scoffed at and outright rejected. If it is never proven then all you have is speculation and speculation isn't evidence.

This post has been edited by mike2k1: Dec 24 2007, 08:44 AM

[longtabber PE]

Maybe Beagles, as a breed, just have a tendency to stick their noses in the wrong places? Anybody know much about them?

Of course, it seems unlikely that both animals would get cut up like that with such a short time frame between the wounds simply by chance.

I raise beagles and bassets ( the wife does the big breeds- sheperds, rotts [ all German] and labs)

Thats why that article really bothered me- if a human did something like that, dont waste govt money charging him, just send him to me and when I'm done he will wish that ALL he got was a felony conviction. Beagles are kinda like my children.

They arent any more "curious" than any other breed we raise but they are natural roamers and when they catch a scent, they are GONE. They will pursue "whatever' until they catch it or get hungry enough to come home. ( I cant count the times i have had to use the dogs to go find dogs or set up a grill with burgers to get the scent out so they will come to it)

I could easily see them locking on to a rat, cat or whatever and chasing it inside a machine such as a combine, plow or whatever. And they dont leave- they will sit there and howl ( or sing) until someone comes and gets them.

[colstonewall1]

I raise beagles and bassets ( the wife does the big breeds- sheperds, rotts [ all German] and labs)

Thats why that article really bothered me- if a human did something like that, dont waste govt money charging him, just send him to me and when I'm done he will wish that ALL he got was a felony conviction. Beagles are kinda like my children.

They arent any more "curious" than any other breed we raise but they are natural roamers and when they catch a scent, they are GONE. They will pursue "whatever' until they catch it or get hungry enough to come home. ( I cant count the times i have had to use the dogs to go find dogs or set up a grill with burgers to get the scent out so they will come to it)

I could easily see them locking on to a rat, cat or whatever and chasing it inside a machine such as a combine, plow or whatever. And they dont leave- they will sit there and howl ( or sing) until someone comes and gets them.

I'd love to catch someone hurting a dog, I'd take a baseball bat to them with no hesitation. And No Quarter.

[twinkletoes]

I didn't take a look at the link, but I could just imagine what it would look like. That poor dog and how it suffered and how cruel and malicious a person could be for doing that to an animal. Who is the animal here? The dog, or the person who skinned it? to the person who did that to the poor dog..

[longtabber PE]

I'd love to catch someone hurting a dog, I'd take a baseball bat to them with no hesitation. And No Quarter.

We can take shifts and i know lots of places and good attorneys

[Melissa]

I didn't take a look at the link, but I could just imagine what it would look like.

Unfortunately - I did, despite the warning of grahic images. That was my only reason for the picture I posted. I just do not have enough information to evaluate anything about this.

I would like to hear more about the events briefly touched on - prior to this injured dog, I believe Watch1 made reference to events leading up to this particular situation.

[ozzy_tx]

Watch1 is entitled to his opinion just as everyone else is on this forum.........in the final analysis, it matters not what any of us think a Sasquatch would or would not do, could or could not do.......it is ALL speculation since none of us have studied one to know what it's methods, mannerisms, and survival instincts are. To talk smack or to call him ludicrous is just that...........ludicrous

[colstonewall1]

I didn't take a look at the link, but I could just imagine what it would look like. That poor dog and how it suffered and how cruel and malicious a person could be for doing that to an animal. Who is the animal here? The dog, or the person who skinned it? to the person who did that to the poor dog..

Trust me, you don't want to look at it. I made that mistake. Don't torture yourself, honestly it's not worth it.

[ozzy_tx]

The person or persons responsible for doing that should have millions of tiny little papercuts applied to them and then be cast into a pool full of mercurchrome or alcohol with the edges of the pool electrified so each time they try and crawl their way out they are shocked right back in. It is absolutely dispicable what they did to that poor dog and in my opinion are a complete waste of human skin!

This post has been edited by ozzy_tx: Dec 28 2007, 10:32 AM