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Feb 20 2007, 01:30 AM
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Formerly Buk'was Group: Members Posts: 520 Joined: 9-September 06 From: Edmonds, Washington Member No.: 3,805 |
3,4,5,2265465454854235433357
I got tired with putting in commas. Sorry. |
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Feb 20 2007, 01:55 AM
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Five toes - Saskets Group: Members Posts: 787 Joined: 25-April 05 From: Victoria, British Columbia Member No.: 2,119 |
5,4,4,2,4,1,5,3,6,2,3,1,3,7,5,7,2,4,6,7,3,5,8,3,5
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Feb 20 2007, 12:27 PM
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Four toes - Rugaru Group: Members Posts: 325 Joined: 29-December 06 Member No.: 4,804 |
2,1,4,5,1,1,3,2,1,1,1,1,3,2,1,4,1,4,5,5,2,3,3,5,1.
Okay, not as time consuming as I thought it would be. And I guess I ranked them on likeability. |
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Feb 20 2007, 02:28 PM
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Official BFF Video Guru Group: Members Posts: 643 Joined: 17-November 06 Member No.: 4,325 |
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Feb 21 2007, 01:54 PM
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Three toes - Zoobie Group: Members Posts: 176 Joined: 20-February 07 From: Stockholm, Sweden Member No.: 5,323 |
4,2,7,6,3,3,8,4,7,6,8,2,9,7,9,9,2,9,10,10,4,3,5,3,3
Don't only do take averages of scores for each image. You could have much fun with these data. Could probably do a personality profile of each responder This post has been edited by Isbjörn: Feb 21 2007, 01:56 PM |
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Feb 21 2007, 05:28 PM
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Four stars - Skookum Group: Members Posts: 4,099 Joined: 21-August 04 From: Waynesville, N.C. Member No.: 1,339 |
All ones but Image 20. The leader looks like my ex on a binge, so it unsettled me somewhat (3.5).
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Feb 22 2007, 12:39 PM
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Two toes - Windigo Group: Members Posts: 44 Joined: 2-December 06 From: southern,ohio Member No.: 4,551 |
3 1 4 1 1 1 1 1 1 3 1 1 1 2 1 3 1 1 2 6 1 1 3 1 1
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Feb 22 2007, 11:46 PM
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One star - Yowie Group: Members Posts: 1,385 Joined: 7-December 04 From: Southwest USA Member No.: 1,667 |
1,1,2,2,3,1,4,2,2,4,2,2,2,3,4,5,1,4,3,7,2,4,1,1,2
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Feb 23 2007, 11:17 AM
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Official BFF Video Guru Group: Members Posts: 643 Joined: 17-November 06 Member No.: 4,325 |
RESULTS
Hello all, and thanks for participating in this test, I received 26 usable responses in all. I would like to continue gathering data, so keep those cards and letters coming! But I also promised some preliminary results, so here they are. This research was the result of a discussion in another thread started by Drew wondering if humans have an "Innate Fear Of Neanderthals." Many of our BFF members discussed various isses about possible human and neanderthal interactions in this thread: http://www.bigfootforums.com/index.php?sho...c=17397&hl= During the course of the discussion I started to wonder if anyone had ever tried to measure human emotional responses to various hominid characteristics. Kind of like the "cute response", but in the opposite direction. So I assembled these 25 pictures and made each one a combination of the following characteristics: 1) skin covered vs. hairy 2) small vs. big or heavy 3) quadrapedal vs. bipedal 4) primitive vs. tools & technology So you will notice that some of the pictures are arbitrary combinations of these characteristics, for example a gorilla with tools, a bipedal hairy creature, etc. Then, I specified a linear multiple regression model to estimate the following equation: emotional response = FX ( hairy , heavy , bipedal , tools ) The model was estimated using the response data provided by you guys in this thread. The regression coefficients from the model are listed below. What this basically means is that emotional response is POSITIVELY related to being hairy, heavy, or bipedal, and NEGATIVELY related to tool use. Another way to think of this is that I could come up with another picture and PREDICT the average emotional response. response = (0.05 * hairy) + (0.27 * heavy) + (0.07 * bipedal) - (0.05 * tools) Overall, the picture characteristics accounted for a relatively small amount of the total emotional response, which suggests that there are some missing parameters in the model, but the results WERE significant. I have attached a complete run of the statistics, below. [attachment=23213:attachment] |
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Feb 23 2007, 11:43 AM
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Two toes - Windigo Group: Members Posts: 53 Joined: 21-June 06 From: Willis, Tx Member No.: 3,421 |
4,3,4,6,8,3,3,6,8,3,5,7,2,6,8,8,8,4,5,2,6,4,9,3,5
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Feb 23 2007, 05:14 PM
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Four toes - Rugaru Group: Members Posts: 325 Joined: 29-December 06 Member No.: 4,804 |
Well, I kind of voted by if I thought the picture was cool or not -- obviously the gorrila with the power drill made me smile, but I also liked the cave man with the spear (where he was sharpening it or something).
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Feb 23 2007, 05:32 PM
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Four toes - Rugaru Group: Members Posts: 450 Joined: 4-November 06 From: Central Florida, USA, Earth Member No.: 4,208 |
3,3,6,2,4,2,7,2,7,6,6,5,4,8,7,9,2,8,10,10,8,8,7,9,10
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Feb 23 2007, 05:34 PM
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Two toes - Windigo Group: Members Posts: 50 Joined: 19-February 07 Member No.: 5,315 |
2,2,6,1,1,1,3,2,5,1,1,1,2,4,2,5,2,1,1,3,1,2,3,2,3
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Feb 23 2007, 05:38 PM
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Three stars - Skunk Ape Group: Members Posts: 3,117 Joined: 30-December 06 From: Florida Member No.: 4,819 |
Morgoth,
Can you summarize your findings for us in sentence form? |
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Feb 23 2007, 06:01 PM
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Four toes - Rugaru Group: Members Posts: 350 Joined: 16-October 06 From: sweaty palm of the mitten Member No.: 4,070 |
3,3,2,3,3,1,2,2,2,2,2,1,2,3,2,3,3,2,2,3,2,2,2,2,2
Morgoth, I entered these before looking at the purpose/results if that makes a difference. I'd be interested in seeing the results you get from people here vs. those you might get from others, say the first X number of people who walk into a 7-Eleven. IMA This post has been edited by InMichAgain: Feb 23 2007, 06:28 PM |
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Feb 26 2007, 09:40 PM
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Four toes - Rugaru Group: Members Posts: 498 Joined: 19-March 06 From: Maryland Member No.: 3,013 |
7,5,7,3,3,3,3,3,7,3,5,3,3,8,3,7,2,3,6,8,3,7,7,5,5
If it's worth anything, I think I found my "reaction" to be more intense as the picture showed a closer representation of my preconcieved idea of what a BF should look like. EDIT: I posted before reading the rest of the thread. This post has been edited by gigantor: Feb 26 2007, 09:44 PM |
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Feb 26 2007, 10:51 PM
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Three toes - Zoobie Group: Members Posts: 213 Joined: 12-October 04 From: P.V. Oklahoma Member No.: 1,509 |
3,3,4,1,2,1,6,2,5,2,4,1,2,5,3,3,1,3,5,4,3,3,4,3,2
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Feb 27 2007, 07:16 AM
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Keeper of the wolves Group: BFF Administrators Posts: 5,744 Joined: 6-February 03 Member No.: 145 |
Okay, I'm lost, could you tell us what the results are in layman's terms?
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Feb 27 2007, 07:55 AM
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Official BFF Video Guru Group: Members Posts: 643 Joined: 17-November 06 Member No.: 4,325 |
Okay, I'm lost, could you tell us what the results are in layman's terms? This experiment is a result of various discussions from the "Innate Fear of Neanderthals" thread. I am trying to understand if people have an innate fear or emotional reaction to certain types of hominid characteristics, and what those might be. Former Northwester had a great quote from the book “Nature via Nurture” by Matt Ridley: QUOTE Snake-fear is one of the commonest forms of phobia. Coincidentally, many people report that they developed their fear through a vicarious experience, such as seeing a parent react with fear to a snake. People are also commonly afraid of spiders, the dark, heights, deep water, small spaces, and thunder. All of these were a threat to Stone Age people, whereas the much greater threats of modern life – cars, guns, electric sockets – simply do not induce such phobias. It defies common sense not to see the handiwork of evolution here: the human brain is prewired to learn fears that were of relevance in the Stone Age. And the only way that evolution can transmit such information from the past to the design of the mind in the present is via the genes. This is what genes are: parts of an information system that collects facts about the world in the past and incorporates them into good design through natural selection. So far the test results seem to show that emotional reaction is increased by hairy, big, and bipedal characteristics, but decreased by tool use. One possible interpretation of this is that people have a strong reaction to "bigfoot" like creatures, and this explains the consistent sightings of a creature like this around the world. Another possible explanation is that members of the BFF have a strong reaction to those pictures anyway, and so one could argue that the test suffers from sample bias. So I wouldn't make too much out of it one way or the other, but at least we are attempting to shed some light on this issue. |
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Mar 1 2007, 07:14 PM
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Two toes - Windigo Group: Members Posts: 30 Joined: 28-February 07 From: Heber, Az Member No.: 5,429 |
5,4,5,3,3,1,2,2,4,4,3,3,2,3,4,9,3,3,8,6,5,7,7,4,4
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Mar 2 2007, 11:40 PM
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Castman of Arkansas Group: Members Posts: 2,261 Joined: 14-May 04 From: Ouachita Mountains, Arkansas Member No.: 1,033 |
1,2,3,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,1,9,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,4,1,1
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Mar 3 2007, 02:19 AM
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Three toes - Zoobie Group: Members Posts: 142 Joined: 30-July 05 From: Kamloops BC Member No.: 2,393 |
2,5,5,1,2,1,6,2,1,1,3,1,1,3,2,4,2,6,9,10,4,5,2,2,5
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Mar 3 2007, 10:50 AM
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Four stars - Skookum Group: Members Posts: 4,007 Joined: 30-July 03 From: Earth Member No.: 296 |
Gah! Maybe that's why I hate tests like this. The test is to determine if there's an emotional response to any of the pictures, then I find out, if I'm not mistaken, it's whether or not the pictures elicit fear as a specific emotional response.
Fear however, is but one of many emotional responses -- anger, fear, sadness, disgust, surprise, curiosity, acceptance, and joy, so someone may give a high value to a picture they find surprising, disgusting, or joyful, and it will instead be recorded as a high value for fear. I would have preferred a test where the emotional states were clearly defined/stated/indicated, and then have me match an emotion to each picuture. Not to worry, you'll eventually learn I'm just a huge pain in the butt and I like to :pokey: a lot. :laugh: RayG |
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Mar 3 2007, 10:58 AM
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Midnight Sun Man Group: Members Posts: 7,573 Joined: 30-March 04 From: Palmer, Alaska Member No.: 913 |
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I'm not sure why most of those photos should have prompted an "emotional" reaction. Number 24 was the only one, and it prompted a smile. |
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Mar 3 2007, 08:09 PM
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Five stars - Sasquatch Group: Members Posts: 6,115 Joined: 29-November 03 From: West Coast Sasquatch. BC,Canada Member No.: 471 |
5,2,3,1,1,1,2,2,6,1,3,1,1,4,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,4,5,1,3
There ya go! |
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Mar 3 2007, 08:42 PM
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Five toes - Saskets Group: Members Posts: 711 Joined: 9-November 03 Member No.: 394 |
Sorry, this was too weird. I didn't participate. Nice collection of contrived artist conceptions, though. And a couple very envious spears! :eek3dance:
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Mar 3 2007, 09:39 PM
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Four toes - Rugaru Group: Members Posts: 273 Joined: 9-January 07 From: Prince Edward Island Member No.: 4,887 |
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Mar 3 2007, 10:16 PM
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Four toes - Rugaru Group: Members Posts: 273 Joined: 9-January 07 From: Prince Edward Island Member No.: 4,887 |
Im I supposed to get a new toe after 15 posts? Find out in a second I guess
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Mar 4 2007, 07:33 AM
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Official BFF Video Guru Group: Members Posts: 643 Joined: 17-November 06 Member No.: 4,325 |
...then I find out, if I'm not mistaken, it's whether or not the pictures elicit fear as a specific emotional response. No worries Ray, the test is for ANY emotional reponse you might have. If we focus on fear, then the intellectual side kicks in, and people start judging combat readiness based on the image. So just any emotional response will do, like an interest level, etc. |
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Mar 4 2007, 09:06 AM
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Four stars - Skookum Group: Members Posts: 4,007 Joined: 30-July 03 From: Earth Member No.: 296 |
No worries Ray, the test is for ANY emotional reponse you might have. If we focus on fear, then the intellectual side kicks in, and people start judging combat readiness based on the image. So just any emotional response will do, like an interest level, etc. So even though you said... I am trying to understand if people have an innate fear or emotional reaction to certain types of hominid characteristics, and what those might be. ...and you included: QUOTE Snake-fear is one of the commonest forms of phobia. Coincidentally, many people report that they developed their fear through a vicarious experience, such as seeing a parent react with fear to a snake. People are also commonly afraid of spiders, the dark, heights, deep water, small spaces, and thunder. All of these were a threat to Stone Age people, whereas the much greater threats of modern life – cars, guns, electric sockets – simply do not induce such phobias. It defies common sense not to see the handiwork of evolution here: the human brain is prewired to learn fears that were of relevance in the Stone Age.... ...you have no idea whether the image produced a fearful emotional response or not, nor are you able to determine what the specific emotional response is. I know you've now said you're looking for ANY emotional response, but you loaded the test with images you thought would produce certain responses, even though they might not. For example, image #9 might produce a 9 response from me. You might interpret that as a 'fear' response, when in actuality it's either a 'disgust' or 'joy' (laughter) caused by a memory of seeing a naked grandma reaching for her slippers as she steps from the bathtub, as you inadvertently walk in on her. It has nothing to do with whether or not she has or doesn't have a tool, or is hairy. I guess I just don't see how this test can provide any useful information when the results are based on interpretations instead of specifics. RayG |
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Mar 4 2007, 10:30 AM
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Official BFF Video Guru Group: Members Posts: 643 Joined: 17-November 06 Member No.: 4,325 |
I guess I just don't see how this test can provide any useful information when the results are based on interpretations instead of specifics. The specifics come in from the characteristcs of the pictures, check the regression model for that. I just didn't want to limit reaction (dependent variable) to fear, we are looking for innate emotional responses. But I agree that this is a difficult thing to test... |
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Mar 4 2007, 07:10 PM
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One toe - Booger Group: New Members Posts: 2 Joined: 30-November 06 Member No.: 4,537 |
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Mar 4 2007, 08:43 PM
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One star - Yowie Group: Members Posts: 1,385 Joined: 7-December 04 From: Southwest USA Member No.: 1,667 |
The specifics come in from the characteristcs of the pictures, check the regression model for that. I just didn't want to limit reaction (dependent variable) to fear, we are looking for innate emotional responses. But I agree that this is a difficult thing to test... Thanks for doing this, it's interesting. I think in some ways it does make sense to just ask for an "emotional" response level rather than narrowing down the type of emotion. Because the very act of thinking about which emotion it is can cause the results to change, since the emotions come from the mid-brain without conscious thought. If you start to think about it consciously, you have to use your neocortex, and then it could get all confused. Maybe next time you should say people can look at the image for 1 second and record the response. That Implicit Association Test I mentioned in the Neanderthal thread actually measures the time it takes you to do the association and if it's too long they know you're using your conscious brain and not the emotional quick reaction. This post has been edited by Former_Northwester: Mar 4 2007, 08:52 PM |
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