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Jul 22 2005, 05:44 PM
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Three toes - Zoobie Group: Members Posts: 181 Joined: 7-March 05 From: Upstate, New York Member No.: 1,968 |
Most people here don’t know me from any other newbie so I will give you a little back ground information before you wade through this very long post.
I have been bigfooting for over 30 years. It’s a personal pursuit, quite a solitary part of my life. I like it that way. I have not shared any of my experiences other than anecdotally a very few times. I have not read any of the books, seen the movies or partaken in web sites, forums or conferences prior to March of this year when I became curious as to what other people know and are doing. Many of the things I know and have learned have not been tainted or enhanced by the observations or experiences of others. I have missed the boat on many instances and have developed completely different theories on others. I have searched this particular observation on the popular web sites and this forum, I have asked a moderator here on the BFF for help in searching the archives a few months ago. Nothing was found. I have not found another reference to tree knocking as a method of food procurement. I will answer any and all questions you may have, but on some days I may not check the thread until evening so be patient. I have no empirical evidence from the incident. No photos, plaster casts, collaborating witness or hair, just my observations and testimonial evidence. It is what it is, take it as you will. September 23rd 1999. Sunny, low 70’s, a fresh steady fall breeze, approximately 3:00 pm, Adirondack State Park in the town of Whitehall N.Y. within 5 miles of the location of the infamous “Thumping in Whitehall” thread. I was bird watching for migrating Raptors along the western facing ridges of a favorite Mountain top. I was about 300 feet below the summit on the top of the cliffs. The idea is to watch the migrating raptors, local red tails and vultures catch the late afternoon thermals rising from the forest floor and with the right wind direction hitting the rock face of the ridge the birds will “pop” up within 20 feet of the edge of the cliff for some close and spectacular views. It was a great day and I was absorbed with the acrobatics in front of me. Note: I believe my scent must have been carried behind me to the area that the sighting occurred because the breeze was steady into my face for a few hours prior. I had to have been scented. My attention was focused in front of me and out into the sky for a mile. After the sighting I theorized that the sounds I heard behind me for 10 or 15 minutes prior were not hikers as I thought. The sounds were relatively benign sounds you would hear from a hiker clumsily approaching. Branches snapping, rocks “gently” clicking, rolling or moving as they are walked upon. About 5 or 6 instances of sounds were heard. Since I was not paying close attention I can only theorize this and if that is true the animal was closer to me at that point, perhaps 20 yards. When the sighting took place these types of ancillary sounds could not be heard due to the distance and interference of other sounds produced by the breeze itself and wind rustled leaves. But based on the observed movements I believe sounds were being made. I heard a clear loud single “whack” not unusual in it’s self but my instinctual reaction was not that of being annoyed by another human invading my peace, but a feeling of concern. I was already sitting between 2 large rocks concealing my profile from the birds so I turned around and watched and listened. There was movement 90 yards distance, as determined by my 20x spotting scope. The woods were too shadowed for good light transmission to use my 20x60 spotting scope and I could not manage the attached tripod with out chancing excessive noise. I did gain a good focus at the point of movement and left the scope in that position and viewed it on a local football field on the way home to determine the point of focus. (after duct taping the focus ring in place prior to the hike down the mountain.) I switched to my very bright 10x50 binoculars. The sun was to my back, the forest foliage was thick with approximately 70% deciduous trees, ground cover was sparse to non existent but the rise in the terrain caused the foliage of the trees in the forefront to partially obscure my view, the shadows were strong. This is what I saw. Initially I saw a large upright animal dark in color approximately 6.5 feet in height, extremely wide in the shoulders and narrow in the waist with thighs that appeared very large in proportion to the body. It’s arms were relaxed at its side and long beyond the knees. My observation lasted about 10 minutes and the remainder of the time the arms did not again relax to be at the side but were held in front or active in whacking the tree. My impression or gut feeling was that of a young, robust, agile animal. It was fur covered but shadows and obstructions were too heavy to allow me to see too much detail. I determined the 6.5 foot height by measuring a glacially cleaved rock with a flat face that the animal was next to that later measured 3 feet and 3 inches. I “eye balled” the animal to be twice as tall as the rock. I estimated the weight to be 400+ lbs. I was 5’10 and 220 muscular lbs. at the time and it was easily twice the mass as I was. Through out the sighting it was mostly moving and active with it’s back to me and facing uphill so details of hair length, facial features were not obvious. And, I actually quite interested and focused on it’s behavior. I'm more an amateur behaviorist than a taxonomist . I will summarize what happened next. The animal held a large stick in it’s right hand (paw ?) and hit a tree in front of it (up hill) very hard. The tree was about 14 inches in diameter and the animal swung the stick with all arm, no body twisting. It stopped and looked up the tree waiting about 2 minutes and then hit the tree again. This time quickly moving to the next tree about 6 inches in diameter and vigorously shook the tree. It was then that I saw there was an animal in the tree acting quite frantic as it tried to climb higher in the tree but was knocked loose by the shaking and fell about 5 feet and was able to grab another branch. It then made a drastic jump back to the original tree which was immediately whacked again 1 time. I realized it was a raccoon as it jumped back to the 2nd tree which was immediately shook again. The raccoon fell to the ground in a manner that was partially behind the larger tree. There was some rapid movement and the animal stooped and somewhat scooted or shuffled in a squatting position a few feet behind the tree and stopped. I couldn’t see if the raccoon was grabbed as it fell or whacked with the stick but there was little movement for almost 5 minutes as the animal remained in a squatting position. It then stood up and walked into a tighter stand of trees that made it even more difficult to see as it steadily moved south parallel to the ridge line and disappeared into the distance. I waited 20 minutes and approached the area. I didn’t find the stick used to hit the trees and I didn’t see it carried away, but it could have been and I didn’t see it. I did find the right hind foot of the raccoon and ¾ of the tail along with a patch of fur about 2x3 inches in size that I believe came from the top of the raccoons head. That’s all I found. The ground was hard and very rocky, there is not much substrate suitable for holding impressions but I did see some scuff marks that were made. I did look for hairs although quickly as I felt compelled to leave. I felt in danger to a small degree, but only to the extent one feels in danger in the presence of something massive that could be destructive. Like standing 10 feet from a passing train, no outward threat or escalating danger as long as no one moves. That’s what it felt like. I have been back a number of times … but with my shorty 12 ga. pump in my pack. Additionally, I did not hear or see any people in the woods that day where I was for approximately 8 hours. Which is precisely why I like this area. There had been minor traffic on the access road 1 mile away during the day as evidenced by “car” sounds. I believe I was the only person actually “in the woods” that day for at least 2 miles in all directions. During the time of the sighting I heard no other sounds from the animal. No calling, walking sounds, grunting, raccoon squealing, limb breaking. No unusual smells. At one point as the animal was squatting partially hidden behind the tree. It abruptly stopped and leaned back to look directly at me for about 3 seconds. Then resumed what it was doing. I am certain that it scented me at that time, I slowly checked wind direction with the “lick the finger method” and it was right on for delivering my scent. In case everyone doesn’t know. Put your index finger in your moth getting the tip wet and hold it up, the side that feels cool as the breeze evaporates the saliva will be the direction the wind is coming from. Rudimentary but effective. At no time did the animal walk on all fours, actually it appeared cumbersome at the point that it moved while close to the ground ie. stooped, scooted, shuffled. It was definitely “built” for 2 feet and it did have a general humanesque (my own word) nature about it’s movements as apposed to a great ape. I have not misspoken concerning my use of 10x50 binoculars and not seeing greater detail in the animal, that is accurate. The shadows, foliage and 90 yards of tree trunks in this healthy forest prevented me from seeing detail. As a personal opinion I would characterize it’s movements as smooth, deliberate, efficient, powerful and balanced as beautiful an example of a survivor as nature has to offer. I was in awe. Before you even ask. It was not a bear, I’ve seen many and it was not a bear. It was not a human, I’ve seen a lot of them too, even 7 foot tall ones and it was not a human. Thank you for your time. I have made this such a long post as to give you as much information as possible and maybe answer the more obvious questions thereby facilitating more detailed questions. Bigfootie |
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BigFootie I "saw" Wood Knocking. Jul 22 2005, 05:44 PM
boss_of_the_woods Was this your first encounter? and can you tell me... Jul 22 2005, 06:44 PM
MountainLady Wow! Great post, Bigfootie. Very intriguing... Jul 22 2005, 06:48 PM
BeansBaxter Cool story Bigfootie! Good attention to detail... Jul 22 2005, 06:48 PM
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JayleeD Good sighting report Bigfootie! I appreciate ... Jul 22 2005, 06:57 PM
belleoftheball
:clap: Yes! A good report. Nicely done.... Jul 22 2005, 07:16 PM
belleoftheball
Thats whay there is no such thing as "exper... Jul 22 2005, 07:17 PM
BigFootie
BeansBaxter,
Your right, years ago I worked for... Jul 22 2005, 07:27 PM
Chewy Great Post! And, thank you for taking the tim... Jul 22 2005, 07:32 PM
BigFootie
Boss,
My observation was of walking heal to toe... Jul 22 2005, 07:32 PM
Squatchaholic I'll ask the obvious, could you tell us about ... Jul 22 2005, 07:41 PM
nightwing Nice detail..great to see someone taking to heart ... Jul 22 2005, 07:46 PM
uffda320 Great post Bigfootie! I can't wait to hea... Jul 22 2005, 08:02 PM
Volsquatch
Yet you contradict this statement, later in the ... Jul 22 2005, 08:38 PM
BigFootie
Yet you contradict this statement, later in the ... Jul 22 2005, 09:07 PM
BigFootie Volsquatch,
I hope my answer was sufficient. I... Jul 22 2005, 09:11 PM
Erectus Nicely written. One question: Did you consider hav... Jul 22 2005, 09:11 PM
BigFootie
Erectus,
No I didn't. I was certain and sat... Jul 22 2005, 09:18 PM
Le Bigefout Bonsoir Bigfootie!
Does the location where ... Jul 22 2005, 09:23 PM
cut4sign Doesn't it seem odd that it took you this long... Jul 22 2005, 09:24 PM
ARsquatch That's what I thought he meant too Vol.
Nic... Jul 22 2005, 09:24 PM
BeansBaxter Volsquatch, I believe he is trying to say he saw t... Jul 22 2005, 09:25 PM
BigFootie Erectus,
Here is the link. DNA testing for exotic... Jul 22 2005, 09:27 PM
Martin Grenfell
Been reading up on this fellow ....
Makes me wo... Jul 22 2005, 09:28 PM
cut4sign I forgot to ask you binocular junkies out there wh... Jul 22 2005, 09:32 PM
belleoftheball
I guess I should have that damn thread... all of ... Jul 22 2005, 09:39 PM
ARsquatch Well crud, this one looks like it's headed for... Jul 22 2005, 09:39 PM
belleoftheball
Crud is right....... Oh man..... :doh: Jul 22 2005, 09:43 PM
Martin Grenfell
Did Vol ask you Beans?
Were you there?
M Jul 22 2005, 09:43 PM
nightwing
I guess I should have that damn thread... all of ... Jul 22 2005, 09:47 PM
belleoftheball
I guess I should have that damn thread... all of ... Jul 22 2005, 09:49 PM
ARsquatch Do tell NW. I need the 411 because I obviously ha... Jul 22 2005, 09:50 PM
BeansBaxter
No nobody asked me. I'm pretty sure they di... Jul 22 2005, 09:52 PM
uffda320 Just don't drink the kool-aid! Jul 22 2005, 09:52 PM
Volsquatch
The contradiction arose when you pronounced ... Jul 22 2005, 09:52 PM
BigFootie
Posted heavily ? this post right here makes 49 f... Jul 22 2005, 09:52 PM
belleoftheball
Was it that little blue car I passed awhile back... Jul 22 2005, 09:53 PM
nightwing
check your email, T ;)
And Belle... Jul 22 2005, 09:57 PM
Volsquatch
I'm glad that Bigfootie is able to channel th... Jul 22 2005, 09:59 PM
belleoftheball
check your email, T ;) [/quote]
That kind of mai... Jul 22 2005, 10:00 PM
heavyg here we go again. This thing could go south in a ... Jul 22 2005, 10:05 PM
ARsquatch
Was it that little blue car I passed awhile back.... Jul 22 2005, 10:05 PM
Volsquatch
Been reading up on this fellow ....
Makes me won... Jul 22 2005, 10:06 PM
Arm Chair Squatcherback Hey, BigFootie! Nice post. Very interesting ... Jul 22 2005, 10:08 PM
AnotherPullTab :popcorn: Jul 22 2005, 10:15 PM
cut4sign I guess I should apologize a bit here. First, I... Jul 22 2005, 10:18 PM
heavyg
Very classy IMO Not that my opinion means anyt... Jul 22 2005, 10:19 PM
Erectus I appreciate your willingness to answer any and al... Jul 22 2005, 10:23 PM
BigFootie
The contradiction arose when you pronounced ... Jul 22 2005, 10:25 PM
BeansBaxter
Maybe it made him jump to a more "shakeable... Jul 22 2005, 10:33 PM
BigFootie Everyone,
I will answer any questions here at 6:0... Jul 22 2005, 10:34 PM
heavyg
Maybe it made him jump to a more "shakeable... Jul 22 2005, 10:41 PM
scotto Sounds good Bigfootie. Tell us about the other one... Jul 22 2005, 10:41 PM
Volsquatch
Bigfootie, I have to commend you on your willing... Jul 22 2005, 10:50 PM
ARsquatch :thumbsup: Bigfootie. I can wait :) Jul 22 2005, 11:04 PM
Jedi_Master
That's a very good question, one I may have ... Jul 22 2005, 11:09 PM
belleoftheball
Ditto! Jul 23 2005, 12:02 AM
billkirbywofb Bigfootie, Thank you for letting us know when yo... Jul 23 2005, 12:17 AM
BigFootie
Bigfootie, I have to commend you on your willing... Jul 23 2005, 05:06 AM
BigFootie
Arm Chair Squatcherback,
Yes, I have had a seco... Jul 23 2005, 05:46 AM
BigFootie erectus, BeansBacter, heavyq and others.
Erectus,... Jul 23 2005, 06:06 AM
Blackbear Hey Bigfootie...sounds like you are doing some gre... Jul 23 2005, 06:10 AM
Paul1968UK Fascinating thread, and a well presented report.
... Jul 23 2005, 06:17 AM
BigFootie
No blood ?
Oh BTW nice post BigFootie :thumbsw... Jul 23 2005, 06:17 AM
BigFootie To all interested,
Me and littlefootie are off fo... Jul 23 2005, 06:20 AM
Blackbear Salamaders???? :realhappy: Hey that sounds like f... Jul 23 2005, 07:00 AM
Volsquatch Bigfootie, again, thank you for answering the ques... Jul 23 2005, 07:41 AM
blair Tucker This is one of the most interesting reports I... Jul 23 2005, 10:26 AM
Just Curious I hope that you and LittleFootie had fun! Tha... Jul 23 2005, 11:01 AM
BiPedal cut4sign
You talking to me. :wacko:
welcome ... Jul 23 2005, 11:08 AM
sosha This is what I like about being observant and quie... Jul 23 2005, 11:17 AM
cut4sign
You talking to me. :wacko:
welcome back c4s
... Jul 23 2005, 12:13 PM
Saskwatcher I am trying to visualize this event....
..... thi... Jul 23 2005, 01:30 PM
FanofSquatch Hello all,
I have been lurking here for quite ... Jul 23 2005, 05:48 PM
BigFootie Sorry for my non traditional quoting system but I ... Jul 23 2005, 08:42 PM
blair Tucker I can see a creature like bf benefit from carrying... Jul 23 2005, 09:31 PM
Erectus
Tally.... Whacker............ :rotflmao:
BTW: Tha... Jul 23 2005, 09:45 PM
Susan
Just add hair......... :lol:
scotto
:lmao: Funny you put those together, "erect... Jul 23 2005, 10:15 PM
Jedi_Master
No blood ?
Oh BTW nice post BigFootie :thumbsw... Jul 23 2005, 10:22 PM
RavenBC
I see 'coons outside my place during the day ... Jul 23 2005, 10:40 PM
Erectus
:lmao: Funny you put those together, "erectu... Jul 23 2005, 10:46 PM
Jedi_Master
I see 'coons outside my place during the day ... Jul 23 2005, 10:54 PM
PinelandsResearcher I have seen raccoons asleep in trees during the da... Jul 23 2005, 11:21 PM
BigFootie
No blood ?
Oh BTW nice post BigFootie :thumbsw... Jul 24 2005, 06:02 AM
Blackbear Hey Bigfootie...yeah it was a typo...sorry...hahah... Jul 24 2005, 07:47 AM
Texan I wonder if tree breaks are food related instead o... Jul 24 2005, 08:45 AM
Painthorse Interesting experience Bigfootie, which leads to s... Jul 24 2005, 09:37 AM
damndirtyape We (Colobus and I) have discussed this theory befo... Jul 24 2005, 11:50 AM
Erectus It would seem quite plausible that a large stick o... Jul 24 2005, 12:21 PM
zappy27
Been reading up on this fellow ....
Makes me won... Jul 24 2005, 02:51 PM
Arm Chair Squatcherback
Very good point! It does seem, however, fro... Jul 24 2005, 04:14 PM
Bitter Monk Very interesting read and some nice input too DDA.... Jul 24 2005, 04:27 PM
Saskwatcher What about reports that tell of the "call ... Jul 24 2005, 04:47 PM
xjay Great info. Bigfootie! I have heard a story a... Jul 24 2005, 06:14 PM
Dragoon Big Footie,
Good report, you included info that a... Jul 24 2005, 06:46 PM
Saskwatcher Maybe the BF grabbed it by the hind leg &
C H ... Jul 24 2005, 06:58 PM
QSECOFR BigFootie,
Thank you for allowing me to read your... Jul 24 2005, 07:29 PM
Jedi_Master Well...
Ok...I can buy the 'coon in the dayli... Jul 24 2005, 09:02 PM![]() ![]() |
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