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Tom Burnette
post May 29 2009, 12:25 PM
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I DID RESEARCH for about 20 years after being ran off a timber boundary in 1991 by three of these creatures in mcdowell county on land that I inherited next to the national forest..Since that time I placed food out using infrared cameras only to get hairy blurrs and find my equipment torn and in shambles on the ground or missing all together, I got pictures of moving orbs a lot of them but over time I found that when I took food on the mountain the best time to try and get a picture was when I was taking food into the area...I found some peaking behind trees, sometimes beating the hell out of trees...I had a large male I assume it was a male just rip the forest up every time I would go to feed one day I saw him on and old logging road he was as big as a horse and it scarred the s**t out of me his size was unbeleivable....My book has some pictures and ive recored all of my activities in the journal..I went hiking one day with dog feeding pans left in the front yard and came back in a hurry and beside my dog feeding pan was a baby the mother had left it why is still a MYSTERY, I TOOK IT BACK TO THE FOREST AND IT RESEMBLED A MONKEY ALMOST CHIMPANZIZE LIKE BUT LARGER, I LEFT IT BUT AS FAR AS i KNOW SHE NEVER RETURNED FOR IT AND I FOUND THE REMAINS 2 WEEKS LATER i SENT THE SKULL ONE YEAR AGO TODAY TO DNA RESEARCH LAB IN TEXAS AND AS OF THIS DATE NO REAL INFORMATION ONLY THEY CANT TRACE DNA STRAINDS TO ANY KNOWN..THIS IS STILL NOTHING i HAVE RAISED HELL WITH STAFF LAST WEEK TRYING TO GET THEM TO FINISH, DONT REALLY KNOW WHY THEY ARE JERKING ME AROUND MAYBE THE GOVERNMENT WONT LET THEM RELEASE BUT I HOPE THIS IS NOT THE CASE BUT I AM STILL TRYING TO GET THEM TO FINISH...If anyone is interested in my book you can by at amazon.com natures secret agents isbn 97816074379 or you can get at powells e books for 7.95 and its available for order at barnes and nobles....

again me trying to figure out why mother had left baby sometimes male chimps and apes alike will kill infants so the female will go back into heat she could have left it for fear for the infant..I should have kept it I had my chance and yes I should have photographed it but hindsight is 20 20...................
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Sir, you wrote a book but type like that? scratchhead.gif
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post May 29 2009, 02:17 PM
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Here's an article where Burdette talks about his experiences and his book.

Here's his bigfoot photo.

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Edit to add that I couldn't find his book at Amazon.

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QUOTE(peregrine @ May 29 2009, 02:17 PM) *
Here's an article where Burdette talks about his experiences and his book.

Here's his bigfoot photo.

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Edit to add that I couldn't find his book at Amazon.


I wonder when we are going to see some analysis of this shot? coverlaugh.gif
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post May 29 2009, 03:50 PM
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According to Amazon the correct ISBN numbers are
  • ISBN-10: 1607437996
  • ISBN-13: 978-1607437994
Editors get paid well and catch common grammatical errors as well as spelling quite easily.

As far as the picture...

ummmmmmmmm... either it has been enlarged a LOT or it was photographed through the side of a cheap drinking glass from the Dollar Store. Personally I don't see a thing that even hints at being a bigfoot. Maybe Tom B. could help out by describing to us what he sees in the photo with possibly the addition of the obligatory red circles.
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Hi

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There is no way anyone here is going to accept that post for anything but nonsense, Lost or stolen evidence, Blurry pictures, Excuses, I don't know about you but if i buy a book i want some excitement and curiosity built into it, Take a look back at your post and really give it a good read, Is that the way you want to promote your book.

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Also shouldn't the title of the book be "Nature's" with an apostrophe to show possession, as in belonging to Nature? Rather than Natures showing plurality?

The more I find out about your book, the more questions are popping up. In your post above you said...

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I DID RESEARCH for about 20 years after being ran off a timber boundary in 1991 by three of these creatures in mcdowell county on land that I inherited next to the national forest.


That's a little hard to do since it hasn't been 20 years since 1991.

Your book was self published by you in January 1999. Your book outlined the finding of the remains of the "infant" several weeks later after you thought the mother would come back. In your statement above you said you sent the skull in for DNA testing...

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i SENT THE SKULL ONE YEAR AGO TODAY TO DNA RESEARCH LAB IN TEXAS


I have to ask, why did you wait approximately 10 years before submitting the skull for DNA testing? Did you keep and preserve any other body parts? Are there pictures of the skull and other body parts? Have you received any paper work from this lab verifying the statements you've made in regards to them not being able to trace the DNA strands to any known (whatever you're implying)?

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cool.gif This reads like deja vu to me -- did you post this elsewhere recently, Tom, and didn't I read this somewhere else?
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Bits and pieces of what he wrote here has appeared on websites that talk about his book. Information supplied by the publisher, which since it's self-published it's himself.

I'm really hoping he comes back to this thread, and replies to the questions I've already posted above, as I have some more that need to be answered.

For instance things like....

Could you describe the physical appearance of the baby "Yeti" you claim you held in detail?

What exactly did you send to the "DNA Research Facility" to have tested?

Your book was published in January 1999, which means it was written in 1998 or before. In the book you have the story about the baby "Yeti" so it had to have happened prior to 1999. On two websites you state different years that this occurred, both AFTER the publishing of the book.

The photo supplied was taken with a Cellphone pointed into the woods. Since he hasn't had time to answer my question about what he sees in the photo, I'll post a copy of what is posted on the "Phantom and Monsters" Wiki.

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"I felt sure something was watching me," he said of one day's excursion into the woods. "I turned around and felt eyes on me." He didn't see anything out of the ordinary, he explained, but long years of romping the woods has taught him the limitations of the human eye in the dense foliage.

He raised his cell phone and took pictures of the woods in front of him. It was only after he had detail shots printed at maximum enlargement that he saw the evidence he had in hand.

One eerie picture shows what appears distinctly to be a humanoid face, with flat, wide mouth and heavy brows. The face's left are the shapes of what could be faces of bears or other beasts.


Phantoms & Monsters

I've spent years "romping" in the woods as well and can also vouch for the limitations of the human eye in dense foliage. However at that point of limitations a camera, especially a cellphone camera is not going to see better than the human eye! The blockiness of your picture shows it's been enlarged way beyond it's ability to provide useful information, so you simply get a bunch of patterns composed of light and shadows. Thanks to a number of members of this forum who taught me a new word, I get to use it for about the third time this week...

It's called Pareidolia

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post May 31 2009, 09:28 AM
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I don't mean to "pile on" so to speak, but Mr Burnette what you've presented is...err, umm, not very compelling. It seems like just more far fetched BS, so if you really have seen BF then good luck to you. Keep trying and maybe someday you'll get a decent photo, until then I'd keep the shape shifting, UFO, orb stuff to yourself as for the most part that just makes you look...hmmm, insane.

Let me qualify that a little...there is no proof that BF even exists, so before you try and attribute supernatural powers to it you must first prove that it actually exists. So once it has been established that there really is an apelike creature running around in the woods, then maybe, maybe you'll get support on the supernatural stuff.

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QUOTE(peregrine @ May 29 2009, 01:17 PM) *
Here's an article where Burdette talks about his experiences and his book.

Here's his bigfoot photo.

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Edit to add that I couldn't find his book at Amazon.


Damn my internet connection is slow... I have been waiting now for 6 hours for this picture to resolve itself
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QUOTE(moregon @ May 31 2009, 08:55 AM) *
Could you describe the physical appearance of the baby "Yeti" you claim you held in detail?

Well, for one thing, in his interview with "the world’s most respected authority on the phenomenon known as bigfoot" one year ago, Burnette said that the baby bigfoot had a tail that was ten-inches long. scratchhead.gif

FWIW, Burnette's book is available through Biscardi's web site.
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It's true. We as humas are conditioned from birth to see faces and recognize their features in just about anything we happen to look at. The first thing we see at birth is the face of the doctor or midwife etc who delivered us looking down at us, the same with the faces of our mothers, fathers family and friends gazing down at us. Something that's impressed into our unconscious mind to an astounding degree. It takes willpower to overcome it and look beyond what we naturally see. Another reason that we work so hard at training our abilities to be observant yet practical in our brains interpretation of what our eyes are seeing.
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QUOTE(damndirtyape @ May 31 2009, 08:07 PM) *
Damn my internet connection is slow... I have been waiting now for 6 hours for this picture to resolve itself


That may be one of the best posts ever on this forum.
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QUOTE(peregrine @ Jun 1 2009, 11:03 AM) *
Well, for one thing, in his interview with "the world's most respected authority on the phenomenon known as bigfoot" one year ago, Burnette said that the baby bigfoot had a tail that was ten-inches long. scratchhead.gif

FWIW, Burnette's book is available through Biscardi's web site.


That's what I wanted him to say, I caught it here...

http://www.newsweek.com/id/155355/output/comments

in his second comment to the story about the GA Boys hoax. According to him the baby "Yeti" was 24 inches long with a 10 inch tail.

Since he hasn't returned yet, I'm thinking that this whole thing was pretty much an advertising ploy to get people to buy his book, and he's not interested in any serious discussion about what may or may not have happened.
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QUOTE(damndirtyape @ May 31 2009, 07:07 PM) *
Damn my internet connection is slow... I have been waiting now for 6 hours for this picture to resolve itself

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QUOTE(StoneyRocks @ May 29 2009, 12:36 PM) *
Sir, you wrote a book but type like that? scratchhead.gif

I had somebody type it for me hero..

QUOTE(Bitter Monk @ Jun 1 2009, 02:09 PM) *
That may be one of the best posts ever on this forum.

Thank you not everyone is as kind as you sir everyone else wants to rip me apart..
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I did the best I could sir it was only a cell phone and my book is available at amazon.com books natures secret agents used for only 7.00 bucks

biscardi has nothing to do with my book if hes selling it its thiefery thats what hes good for...hed hoo doo anyone hes already ripped me off once...
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Welcome to the forum Tom, were you on the level about the bigfoot baby? Can you describe it a bit more to us?
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QUOTE(peregrine @ May 29 2009, 02:17 PM) *
Here's an article where Burdette talks about his experiences and his book.

Here's his bigfoot photo.

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Edit to add that I couldn't find his book at Amazon.

if they would post the whole picture i will try as hard as i can to explain anything to do with bigfoot is confusing...
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QUOTE(vilnoori @ Jun 2 2009, 11:28 AM) *
Welcome to the forum Tom, were you on the level about the bigfoot baby? Can you describe it a bit more to us?

yes I was on the level it had just been birthed and it had a tail ten inches long no teeth no hair except a patch between it s shoulder blades and hands and feet were the same as our hands the feet were the same as the hands...the face like a chimp...........
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QUOTE(moregon @ Jun 1 2009, 03:50 PM) *
That's what I wanted him to say, I caught it here...

http://www.newsweek.com/id/155355/output/comments

in his second comment to the story about the GA Boys hoax. According to him the baby "Yeti" was 24 inches long with a 10 inch tail.

Since he hasn't returned yet, I'm thinking that this whole thing was pretty much an advertising ploy to get people to buy his book, and he's not interested in any serious discussion about what may or may not have happened.

I am here yes i want to sell my book and biscardi has nothing to do with it I had one meeting with biscardi hes an idiot who wants to shoot the thing he stole 50 of my books owes me a 1000 dollars for nonpayment and i consider him a walking turd he will never discover bigfoot i have seen them work he couldnt find a hooker at a cathouse..my book is available at amazon.com books for 7.00 bucks yes i self published and have spent about 10000 just trying to get the thing off the ground proabably never will make a dime but i dont care only care about the creatures...If any of you hammer heads want to camp on my property you can but only in groups of three i have a small campground and will work something out as far as payments so many of you think I am full of s**t I feind your mannerisms strange......You can bring your cameras no tripcams no bigfoot howler monkey calls because when you leave I still have to live with them.........tomburnette@hotmail.com

QUOTE(Tom Burnette @ Jun 2 2009, 11:31 AM) *
if they would post the whole picture i will try as hard as i can to explain anything to do with bigfoot is confusing...

look again at amazon.com books its there and at powells ebooks and at barnes and nobles...Post the whole picture and ill try to explain...................
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QUOTE(Tom Burnette @ Jun 2 2009, 02:02 PM) *
Post the whole picture and ill try to explain...................


Ok...what's up with the nightgown?

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QUOTE(moregon @ May 30 2009, 01:26 PM) *
Also shouldn't the title of the book be "Nature's" with an apostrophe to show possession, as in belonging to Nature? Rather than Natures showing plurality?

The more I find out about your book, the more questions are popping up. In your post above you said...
That's a little hard to do since it hasn't been 20 years since 1991.

Your book was self published by you in January 1999. Your book outlined the finding of the remains of the "infant" several weeks later after you thought the mother would come back. In your statement above you said you sent the skull in for DNA testing...
I have to ask, why did you wait approximately 10 years before submitting the skull for DNA testing? Did you keep and preserve any other body parts? Are there pictures of the skull and other body parts? Have you received any paper work from this lab verifying the statements you've made in regards to them not being able to trace the DNA strands to any known (whatever you're implying)?

that doesnt mean that i did not do research before 91 does it i said this event happened in 91.. I waited because i lost interest sir, no i dont have any body parts other than the skull but i am telling the truth and will submit to polygraph if you will pay for it for the events in the book know put that in your pipe and smoke it sir............I am still waiting for dna I have raised hell with the lab I am at the point where I would send to another research facility could you recomend one this one is in texas; maybe you can help me, I am having a hell of a time with these people they say well rome wasnt built in a day thats the kinda bulllshit I am getting out of the dr, she said she has done all animal testing she can and its not an animal she is going to do one more test sir and its suppose to be human and primate why she did not do it before I dont know,,,,,I am feed up my last conversation with her assistant was i wont to know what it is she said they sent part to another sister research facility I think they are pulling my chain...If i dont have anything in thirty days I will try to recover skull and send to another can you recomend one SIR>>>>>>>>>>>>>thanks tomburnette@hotmail.com

next time ill get the bigfoot to pose for you guys and put on make up so yall can see a better picture....ok
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next time ill get the bigfoot to pose for you guys and put on make up so yall can see a better picture....ok





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Sorry Tom, I just couldnt resist with my last post. Unfortunate as it may seem the vast majority of people think all of us Footers are just a couple of cans short of a six pack when it comes to our obsession with Uncle Hairy. They lump all of us into one group and casually dismiss us with phrases along the lines of "Those people are really out there" without taking the time to see who we really are.
I'm not going to pass judgement on your story, howerever I am trying to imagine having a live infant Sasquatch handy and not gathering as much forensic evidence as possible before letting it go, not to mention keeping it.

Personally I would rather be able to laugh about it and keep doing what I am doing out there in the woods and let the rest of the world think what they want.

However I do like this guy. Aside from needing a trip to a good orthodontist and looking like Tom Cruise and Matthew McConaughey had a love child he's pretty awesome.
I'm sure many of you have seen these before, yet I still see myself in them to a certain degree everytime I'm out there.


http://skookumqwest.blogspot.com/2009/01/blog-post.html

I know Ryan post on this board from time to time... not sure as who, but either way you're awesome : )

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Hi Tom-
Don't be put off by the attitudes here; this kind of story gets a lot of us into a skeptical mode, you just have to roll with the punches. If we weren't eager to learn more, none of us would post questions for you.
And based on the things these forums have seen in the past, you really can't blame anyone for being skeptical.
So, I am also very interested to hear more about the skull. If all of this is (so far) legitimate, then there is also the possibility that the lab had results a long time ago but is holding back thinking you might have killed a deformed human baby or something like that.
The thing that will help you out here is repeatability. If you can get clear pics of some activity, folks here will perk up and listen. You'll still have to deal with some of us crying BS, but that's just the nature of this game.
I personally am hoping you can provide us with something more concrete. But that's just me and my wishful thinking. I would be grateful to come out to your property and look around, and even camp there with your permission. I suppose that depends on where exactly you are, because I have a job, house, pets, a wife, etc. If it's not too far I would be honored to come out to your property and get a firsthand feel for whatever you have going on.

Here's a thought: Vilnoori, maybe you can help me out with this possible theory?
I know that sometimes humans are born with small tails (at least I think this still happens on rare occasions). Is it possible that this infant was abandoned because of this possible defect?

Ok, back to the topic;
Tom, one thing that almost always gets our collective BS meters in an uproar is when someone is trying to sell books about their experiences. It's because of what we've all seen in the past. Don't let it throw you! The best thing to do (especially if you want to sell those books) is to come up with some more pics or video, and above all else, GET THAT SKULL BACK. Even if you don't get the results from the current lab. A skull is a pretty big sample, and even if they keep a chunk of it there will be plenty left for another lab to look at. They may even be willing to forward it to another lab for you to limit the chances of contamination. It would also be prudent to go back to that same lab and snap a few pics of the skull even if they are reluctant to give it back. These are all things that will help us to believe the story, and help you sell the books.
And if Biscardi absconded with 1000 of your books, you should go after him. Or try to get folks to boycott his site, or at least not buy those books from him. He's not going to give you your money anyway, so you may as well make him sit on them if you can.

I know I sound like a broken record here, but please don't be upset when folks don't believe you. Almost every single reported incident is met with the same skepticism here, and probably needs to be. It's the only way for us to weed out the BS, which there is a LOT of in this field.

Please keep after it, and keep us informed. Remember, any developments (especially with pics/video/DNA results) are going to help your cause.
And again, I would be honored and obliged to you for the opportunity to camp on your property (if it's feasible for me to do so). You can PM me the details if you don't want to discuss them in the open forums.

Spazmo

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QUOTE(Spazmo @ Jun 2 2009, 01:15 PM) *
Hi Tom-
Don't be put off by the attitudes here; this kind of story gets a lot of us into a skeptical mode, you just have to roll with the punches. If we weren't eager to learn more, none of us would post questions for you.
And based on the things these forums have seen in the past, you really can't blame anyone for being skeptical.
So, I am also very interested to hear more about the skull. If all of this is (so far) legitimate, then there is also the possibility that the lab had results a long time ago but is holding back thinking you might have killed a deformed human baby or something like that.
The thing that will help you out here is repeatability. If you can get clear pics of some activity, folks here will perk up and listen. You'll still have to deal with some of us crying BS, but that's just the nature of this game.
I personally am hoping you can provide us with something more concrete. But that's just me and my wishful thinking. I would be grateful to come out to your property and look around, and even camp there with your permission. I suppose that depends on where exactly you are, because I have a job, house, pets, a wife, etc. If it's not too far I would be honored to come out to your property and get a firsthand feel for whatever you have going on.
This thing was way more ape than human gene wise we are only 1 percent different that a monkey so its always a close call but i do beleive they are people mixed in with these things, ive seen them in the flesh..................
Here's a thought: Vilnoori, maybe you can help me out with this possible theory?
I know that sometimes humans are born with small tails (at least I think this still happens on rare occasions). Is it possible that this infant was abandoned because of this possible defect?

Ok, back to the topic;
Tom, one thing that almost always gets our collective BS meters in an uproar is when someone is trying to sell books about their experiences. It's because of what we've all seen in the past. Don't let it throw you! The best thing to do (especially if you want to sell those books) is to come up with some more pics or video, and above all else, GET THAT SKULL BACK. Even if you don't get the results from the current lab. A skull is a pretty big sample, and even if they keep a chunk of it there will be plenty left for another lab to look at. They may even be willing to forward it to another lab for you to limit the chances of contamination. It would also be prudent to go back to that same lab and snap a few pics of the skull even if they are reluctant to give it back. These are all things that will help us to believe the story, and help you sell the books.
And if Biscardi absconded with 1000 of your books, you should go after him. Or try to get folks to boycott his site, or at least not buy those books from him. He's not going to give you your money anyway, so you may as well make him sit on them if you can.

I know I sound like a broken record here, but please don't be upset when folks don't believe you. Almost every single reported incident is met with the same skepticism here, and probably needs to be. It's the only way for us to weed out the BS, which there is a LOT of in this field.

Please keep after it, and keep us informed. Remember, any developments (especially with pics/video/DNA results) are going to help your cause.
And again, I would be honored and obliged to you for the opportunity to camp on your property (if it's feasible for me to do so). You can PM me the details if you don't want to discuss them in the open forums.

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However I do like this guy. Aside from needing a trip to a good orthodontist and looking like Tom Cruise and Matthew McConaughey had a love child he's pretty awesome.
I'm sure many of you have seen these before, yet I still see myself in them to a certain degree everytime I'm out there.


http://skookumqwest.blogspot.com/2009/01/blog-post.html

I know Ryan post on this board from time to time... not sure as who, but either way you're awesome : )


Hahaha This is great. Unfortunately, it sums up a lot of people who call themselves BF researchers.


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That's what I wanted him to say, I caught it here...

http://www.newsweek.com/id/155355/output/comments

in his second comment to the story about the GA Boys hoax. According to him the baby "Yeti" was 24 inches long with a 10 inch tail.

Since he hasn't returned yet, I'm thinking that this whole thing was pretty much an advertising ploy to get people to buy his book, and he's not interested in any serious discussion about what may or may not have happened.

biscardi is a creep he stole 1000 dollars worth of my books and of course no payment..I have no dealings with him he came to my property once and the yetis ran him off he left scared they threw boulders on his camp rolled logs off hills while biscardi slept in a motel his team stayed with me I watched how they operated they couldnt find a hooker in a cat house hes an idiot a showman running a hoax anyone who wants my book its at amazon.com books, natures secret agents...I will submit to polygraph and let any of you hard asses sleep camp out at my property next to the national forest if you dare if your scared say your scared biscardi left with fear in his eyes and id never let that asshole come back...............
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the yetis ran him off he left scared they threw boulders on his camp rolled logs off hills while biscardi slept in a motel


I don't know which is worse, the outrageious claims or defamations.

Worse than anything I got shot down for. I want my 25% back.

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